User talk:Henryward1957

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Again, welcome! Jytdog (talk) 00:33, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

Your post at WT:VERIFY
Note, Henry posted the comment below at WT:VERIFY. I cut it from there and am pasting here Jytdog (talk) 00:39, 30 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Semi-protected edit request on 29 March 2016

I hold a masters degree in counter terrorism studies and am currently a PhD candidate in the same subject - contact henry@vwt.com.au.

In the absence of any other viable contact method see below:

This is an observation: I was a member of the military unit discussed in this page from 1985-87; while a lot of the peripheral (non-Northern Ireland related data) is accurate, the FRU specific/Northern Ireland information is nearly all inaccurate, including the location and role of the unit. They were not located at Thiepval Barracks in Lisburn, nor did they ever conduct any surveillance. They did successfully run human informants (not 'double agents') and to my knowledge (which is pretty complete) the FRU was never complicit with any unionist paramilitary organisations - in actual fact they had very little to do with Protestant groups in general which were almost entirely the preserve of RUC Special Branch. The FRU was never commanded by anybody of a higher rank than a Major (most often Captains). The Northern Ireland Intelligence Group was commanded by a Colonel or Brigadier and was located at Thiepval Barracks but its was an HQ unit that oversaw the administration of all intelligence personnel in NI and some broader operational matters (mostly to do with army/RUC intelligence cooperation) but was certainly not involved in the direction or operational tasking of the FRU. All FRU tasking requests came either from Brigade HQ G2 (via a Brigade G2 based Intelligence Corps Colonel in the specific role of FRU tasking) or from the Tasking and Coordination Group (TCG - joint RUC/Army ops).

I would be prepared to edit this page but little information I could provide is supportable with citations, and so most of what I would do involves deletion or detail reduction.

Whoever wrote this article I would suggest had a role within the Intelligence Corps, probably in counter-intelligence but not in Northern Ireland (at least not during the 1980s) - the article is generally misleading and I would rate it 5/10.

Henryward1957 (talk) 23:48, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi Henry. You left the comment above at the talk page of one our policies, WP:VERIFY.  That policy is a general document guiding editors here, and describes the need to provide reliable sources for content added to Wikipedia.  Your comment is about some specific article and not about the policy, and no one can tell what article it is about.  I also work on conflict of interest issues here in Wikipedia and try to help new users who may have conflicts of interest issues.


 * If you like, please tell me what article in Wikipedia you are concerned about. I can also help you get oriented more to how Wikipedia works, if you like.  You can reply here, just below - I am "watching" this page and will see it.  Best regards Jytdog (talk) 00:39, 30 March 2016 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry - don't know why it wasn't copied across: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force_Research_Unit — Preceding unsigned comment added by Henryward1957 (talk • contribs) 00:43, 30 March 2016  (UTC)
 * It's OK you're new! :)  Quick note on the logistics of discussing things on Talk pages, which are essential for everything that happens here. In Talk page discussions, we "thread" comments by indenting - when you reply to someone, you put a colon ":" in front of your comment, and the Wikipedia (WP) software converts that into an indent; if the other person has indented once, then you indent twice by putting two colons "::" which the WP software converts into two indents, and when that gets ridiculous you reset back to the margin (or "outdent") by putting this  in front of your comment. This also allows you to make it clear if you are also responding to something that someone else responded to if there are more than two people in the discussion; in that case you would indent the same amount as the person just above you in the thread.  I hope that all makes sense. And at the end of the comment, please "sign" by typing exactly four (not 3 or 5) tildas "~" which the WP software converts into a date stamp and links to your talk and user pages.  That is how we know who said what.  Will reply on the substance in a second - am looking at that article and trying to figure out what you are talking about... Jytdog (talk) 00:52, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
 * OK, i just read the article quickly and looked for the points you raised about the location and the surveillance stuff. Turns out both things were not supported by a reliable source (that is what WP:VERIFY talks about the need for in Wikipedia) so I cut the one-liner about the barracks and I moved the section that was unsourced to the Talk page, until it can be sourced.  That is how things work here.  Does that make sense? Jytdog (talk) 01:00, 30 March 2016 (UTC)