User talk:Hentsuvanguard

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Wali Sanga
WP:RS and WP:CITE are vital for an article like that, and WP:OR and WP:COPYVIO is also something some eds would be looking at closely.

Also WP:SEAOFBLUE for over-linking.

Of course none of that is necessarily something that cannot be fixed. Such information does not come out of the air. To save your edit from reversion, you must make an effort to find the RS and CITE for your effort.

cheers JarrahTree 09:40, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

could you show me which one of it that have been deleted?
It's okay if it was deleted, but would you mind telling me which one of it? And yeah, some of it were not under citation or sources, but it because I haven't wrote it yet, it takes a lot of time in add references, though my internet connection was too slow in completing such action. So, my deepest apologies for such cases. Hentsuvanguard (talk) 09:46, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

nothing deleted, it is just a template, I'm the human that sent the template. Take your time, dont apologise, a substantial addition of text needs the refs, if you need help, please ask.. but above all dont apoligise, if you are going to add refs and cites, all is well JarrahTree 09:50, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

Roger that
roger that Jarret Hentsuvanguard (talk) 10:09, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

the point from an academic or wikipedia point of view claims for historic figures or events are things that relate to javanese history are both problematic and contested. If you search my very first edits on wp en some 10 years back, I was at the time interested in places in Java that have been in the last 60 years contested and argued extensively.

The current climate in java is becoming somewhat different from the 'imagined' Indonesia of the 70s and 80s that american academics have created on the record, some aspects are not so easy to determine. So if you make a claim for a wali sanga, you need to show your source - one only hopes it is not mirror sites of wikipedia online. There is a lot of inventive unsubstantiatable rubbish about a range of historical events and figures of Javanese history and some Indonesia based editors think such items are valid.

So take care JarrahTree 10:24, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

Yup, agreed
yeah, even for me as a Javanese, I have the same opinion as you are. The history of Java is much more complicated then most of people knows, especially in correlation with the Austronesian Language. By the way, my name is Hen, and this is my email address: hentsuvanguard@gmail.com, It is a pleasure to know a person who interested in the history of Java. And thanks for your concern 👍🏽 Hentsuvanguard (talk) 14:08, 7 February 2016 (UTC)


 * take care also, everything on wp en is open and easy to find on google, a lot depends on your sense of privacy, most editors tend to not reveal personal details as easily as that! again, take care JarrahTree 14:11, 7 February 2016 (UTC)


 * WRONG - You do not link a word every time you use it - see WP:SEAOFBLUE - cheers JarrahTree 12:49, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

OK
so you are getting the hang of things.


 * WP:TONE is another problem, this is an online encyclopedia, not a conversational piece. A lot of the expressions in the wali sanga article are not encyclopediac, they are conversational.


 * Discussing sources. The nature of an encyclopedia is that it is discussing the subject, not necessarily how the subject is approached.

Keep at it! JarrahTree 23:21, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

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