User talk:Herbythyme/Arc3

Spam-blacklist
Have added a supplement, a general " how-to: of sorts. Improve if needed, ect. A shortcut has been created WP:BLACK. cheers--Hu12 (talk) 10:42, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * See -MediaWiki:Spam-blacklisting
 * Excellent work - many thanks -- Herby talk thyme 11:41, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Off topic but fyi--Hu12 (talk) 14:00, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks - spotted it earlier. I've apologised to the user concerned (it was a flippant remark on - I think - a bad day) but I wasn't sure about joining in a conversation that had moved on elsewhere?  I notice the focus was not on my starter comments either! -- Herby  talk thyme 14:16, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Hello Herby!
Nice to see you here too Herby :) I know I recently asked on you Commons if their is anything I should change/improve on, but I was wondering if you could be a "mentor" or something for me here on Wikipedia. I hope this isn't bothering you. Best regards, -- 'Kanonkas' :  Take Contact  16:24, 24 May 2008 (UTC)


 * This does not bother me at all however you really do not want someone like me to help you here. I am not a particularly active member of this project & such activity as I do do here is in very restricted areas.  I work almost solely on disruptive editing often with cross wiki implications and deal mostly with conflict of interest issues & excessive external linkage.  You would do much better to find someone with far more general knowledge.  Equally - given you are likely to be an admin on Commons soon - it might be as well to focus there for a while rather than be overstretched?  Regards -- Herby  talk thyme 11:13, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Prod Removal
Thanks for the heads up! I caught that myself too. My original problem was that the initial article creation (here) appeared to be a straight copy and paste of a journal article. However, since then, the author has cleaned it up and added references. I'm OK with the article remaining now, as it just needs the normal cleanup that a lot of WP articles do. If there's anything else I can help with let me know. Cheers! TN ‑ X - Man 13:32, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Celebrity poker spam
You missed one:



Should be BLed here or on meta because it has zero use whatsoever on Wikimedia projects. In fact, it's the kind of site I'd expect to be spammed by XRumer users (the ones responsible for the /w/index.php/ spam pages). I've put together a quick WikiProject Spam item for the blacklist log. MER-C 12:25, 28 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I listed it at Meta before I started cleaning :) There was a page created there at the same time.  Must have used a bunch of accounts though one I deleted went back to last year.  Thanks -- Herby  talk thyme 12:28, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Tivate
Herby, thanks for tips. You're right it is a COI. I apologize. I'm very proud of the interviews and would like others to benefit from them too. However, I don't want to be associated with link spam at all. I'm learning. Thanks for making Wikipedia a better place and you won't have any trouble from me again. Thanks. Justin --Tivate (talk) 07:43, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi there!
Hey Herby, nice to see you here as well. I like that picture on your user page. It looks vaguely like a gorilla kissing the sun :) Can you take a look at this whenever you're free? - Amog  |T a l k 11:24, 7 June 2008 (UTC)


 * No gorillas near there I assure you :) Sorted :) Cheers -- Herby  talk thyme 11:31, 7 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Dartmoor looks lovely. Conan Doyle paints a slightly different picture of it :) I'm wondering why this isn't a featured picture. - Amog  |T a l k 13:09, 7 June 2008 (UTC)


 * In good weather it is great. I like the piccy (well I would) but folk tend to be very critical of the featured ones.  Thanks -- Herby  talk thyme 14:49, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Err (Altsounds)?
When it's written like that ('we' this and 'we' that) and they provide a link to the companies page, it's usually pretty easy to find the original text! Ged UK (talk) 15:03, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Central Board of Secondary Education link
I goofed.

After spending hours putting together Talk:Central Board of Secondary Education/Spam and listing domains at WikiProject Spam I screwed up and left in the spammy cbse.co.in link by mistake, not the official http://www.cbse.nic.in. I am glad this error got corrected and I am sorry for the mistake. -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 17:52, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Sorry?
That was very cryptic, Herby ... Neıl 龱  08:35, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Aha! You are correct. Neıl  龱  08:59, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: BL req
Hi Herby, thanks for fixing that link. It will slowly but inevitably be removed. And apologies for creating traffic with those proxy bots earlier. Now, I usually block immediately after posting on the IP's talk page. Spellcast (talk) 19:52, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

spam?
Hey Herb, I need some advice. Should weebly.com be added to the mediawiki spam blacklist? It looks liks a generic free-web hosting site. Seems like it's really no use to wp. - Amog  | Talk •  contribs 06:15, 20 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I hate this sort :) The problem here is that by blocking the whole domain there will be one link that is genuinely quite valid & a storm will arise!  The only thing you can really do is take a look at every link & try and assess how valid it is based on WP:EL & WP:RS mainly I guess.  Cheers -- Herby  talk thyme 06:57, 20 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Oops. I guess we can't blacklist it. Looks like Wp has an article on Weebly :) - Amog  | Talk •  contribs 07:29, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Hello Herby. Are you online? I need a minute. - Amog  | Talk •  contribs 09:55, 24 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I noticed a user was doing this, so I proceeded to speedy the page under G10. Eventually this happened.Any idea why?
 * And, I'd also like to know what i can do if I find pages like this on Wp. - Amog  | Talk •  contribs 10:19, 24 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I would watch that user very very carefully. Not sure quite what happened but I would have deleted the page as it was when you tagged it & probably blocked the user (I am still quite tempted).  If you do get problems with users removing tags that you feel are correct you can always warn them (plenty of tags here).  Equally ask an admin for assistance either here or one of the other admins boards (this has plenty of links/info.  Thanks -- Herby  talk thyme 10:46, 24 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks Herb. I'm still wondering why on earth I warned myself. So Wp is okay with that kind of sympathy writing found on her talk page? - Amog  | Talk •  contribs 13:36, 24 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I have no idea how you warned yourself I'm afraid, I don't know much about the available tools etc. Bear in mind I'm not really a regular here.  If I saw that page on Commons or Meta I would delete it without a thought (I'd probably block the user too) but they do see some things differently here.  You'd be better finding a more "en wp" admin really.  I'd certainly watch the contributions as I think it is likely there will be more disruptive editing - if there is then seek a block.  Thanks -- Herby  talk thyme 13:43, 24 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I just figured it out. I welcomed that user initially, and therefore created that page. When i db-tagged it, I warned myself as the creator :D - Amog  | Talk •  contribs 14:21, 25 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I've been off the last two days, and I just noticed the edits that the user has been making. It looks like a cleverly disguised attack page. How come you unblocked her? - Amog  | Talk •  contribs 13:28, 27 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I would not really argue with you & I actually blocked the user. Then I thought that they probably should have a proper warning/explanation so I did that.  I'm not sure whether they will "behave" but we will see!  Regards -- Herby  talk thyme 15:11, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Quantix link
Why did you get rid of my link on Microsoft SQL server? it is a informative page! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Quantix (talk • contribs) 13:41, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

so how would you suggest that i get that piece of information accecpted onto wiki?

Quantix (talk) 15:32, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Please advise
I firstly wish to apologise for the tone of the comments attached to the ‘undo’ I did this morning – I was frustrated as I am new and I even though I am a fast learner, there appears to be so many opinions and contradictions of what is acceptable. I had added the section on the upcoming event as it had already been published in the newspaper – thus confirmed and referenced. It was initially removed and constructively edited and replaced by a very experienced contributer, so I was frustrated when it was removed rather than challenged or improved. But my issue remains the same – many other sites refer to upcoming events such as Glastonbury 2008 festival to name one of thousands – so why what I added was any different ? Please advise. rjhartley (talk) 19:38, 23 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Answered on user talk page -- Herby talk thyme 09:44, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Mirfield show
(NB: I was posting this message, below, when the one above by rjhartleywas entered, so there is a bit of a crossover here as they relate to the same issue)

Hi Herbythyme. I note you removed a section from the above article, which I had previously removed, but then reworded and tidied up before re-inserting it. Wikipedia:Future event does advise tabular or list form for scheduled events, but I feel a little leeway is fair compared with the likes of Glastonbury Festival 2008. I feel in this instance the section is safe to have in the article. Note these messages on my talk page regarding that edit:-. Like you I dislike ad-links and overly linked articles (take a look at my editing diffs of List of United Kingdom disasters by death toll of 20-22 June) to see what I mean. Richard Harvey (talk) 09:52, 24 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for this. I just see this show as substantively different to something such as Glastonbury (which might almost be termed a world event).  It feels promotional to me & so both unencyclopeadic & WP:COI but I'll not remove it again despite the editor's approach. My local town has a forthcoming event, however I would not dream of "promoting" it on Wikipedia despite it being quite well known regionally.  -- Herby  talk thyme 10:00, 24 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Many thanks! I have the article on my watchlist so will guide the newbie as required. Richard Harvey (talk) 10:11, 24 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks - I appreciate your opinions and didn't mean to offend you. I apologise again for the inital tone, it was out of frustration and regretted it immediately after hitting 'save'. This is a steep learning curve, but I am enjoying it. Thanks again. rjhartley (talk) 11:36, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

CofI
I have no affiliations with any of those links. Best O Fortuna (talk) 13:24, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

User:Herbythyme, you don't make me feel very welcome accusing me of Conflict of Interest. The "Welcome" seems patronizing and placating in an effort to mask your real intention of accusing me of CofI. Best O Fortuna (talk) 13:43, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Reply
Well, I am very discouraged with Wikipedia. I had read lots of negative articles about it. But, since I was on vacation I thought I would try to edit. I read some of the Help sections, looked around, and started to edit. But, then I get accused of Conflict of Interest. I thought I was making good quality edits. But, I guess not.

I have never even been to Fortuna, California. I chose this user name for two reasons:

1) Fortuna is Spanish for "Fortune", and I wanted the "Best Of" fortune.

2) My late uncle worked in Fortuna for 40 years, and since I had never made it there, I wanted to learn more about the city, and as kind of a tribute to him, pass some of that on to the Fortuna article, and maybe the surrounding area in Humboldt County.

I am guessing that there is so much vandalism on here that good contributors and administrators, maybe unconsciously, start assuming "bad faith", because they are bombarded with negative edits. Maybe these veteran contributors and administrators should look through the edits by new users, to see what they are actually doing, before assuming certain things, 1) based on the user name, and 2) based the articles edited. My cousins name is Sydney, and haven forbid he edit the Sydney article.

Well, again, I thought I was making quality changes here, but I guess not. In looking through hundreds of articles here on Wikipedia, I see thousands of errors, inconsistent formatting, poor English, spelling, grammar, etc. And even though mine may not be the best, it is better than a lot of contributors here. There are a ton of crappy edits here. I am guessing that most people don't read any of the tutorials before they begin to edit. They just start adding their own unique formatting and layout. If you actually study education, you will find that people can learn better if there is some consistency in the layout. What if you bought a set of Encyclopedia Britannica and all of the articles had a difference format? This confuses the reader and deters their ability to learn. It is easier to learn about "x" if you don't have to learn about how to decipher the information because of the presentation.

Best O Fortuna (talk) 23:48, 25 June 2008 (UTC)


 * You may wish to read Administrators' noticeboard, and perhaps be a little less hasty with COI notices. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:28, 26 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks - responded. I merely follow up possible COI reports.  The template clearly states may have a connection.  Cheers -- Herby  talk thyme 10:57, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Fortuna, California, External links
I also thought about removing Fortuna Web Site link, but I took the time to actually go to the site, and it is the official website for the City of Fortuna. I just didn't assume something. Best O Fortuna (talk) 13:57, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

External Links being taken off.
Dear Herbythyme,

I have noticed all of the editing to external links have been taken off of Wiki pages. The external links are all on designers and architects in which have written on in our very notable magazine Dwell. I am more than certain that these designers would want links to their articles. Are we not suppose to add credible article links on these pages? I have read the WP:EI and WP:COI and am confident that I am following the rules. I am linking to different articles, which are completely unbiased and gives the user more qualitative information and images about that particular designer or architect that we published in our magazine Please advise.

Best,

Greg —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dwellmag (talk • contribs) 20:23, 25 Jun 2008

Bollywood Flash spam
You missed one:



The tracking URLs should tell the story. While you're here, could you sprot on Chishti Order, Moinuddin Chishti and Ajmer please? Those seem to be the main targets. Thanks. MER-C 12:21, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Dartmoor
Dear Herbythyme,

Last year I took several pictures in Dartmoor (with enhanced quality). If you think this one might be useful for the article, please feel free to make use of it: I do not have an account here, you'll find me under the user name HCass in the German Wikipedia. There, they didn't consider the photo useful. At least, I wanted to give it a try here, in the original place. Best regards --91.54.116.55 (talk) 18:01, 3 July 2008 (UTC) (HCass)
 * P.S. have you considered getting a unified account? MER-C 14:39, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Not yet. Probably not necessary due to less activities.--91.54.86.80 (talk) 15:33, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

I've replied to your on Commons by the way (it is my "home"). Regards -- Herby talk thyme 15:35, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

andrewleaning.com
Actually, I put this site up for blacklisting a couple of days ago (request) due to two previous incidents - Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spam/2008 Archive May 1 and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spam/2008 Archive Jun 1. Can you take care of this please? The namesake user is asking questions on my talk page. My patience is shot through - I've busted two 150 domain spammers today and it's 22:40 where I live. Thanks. MER-C 14:39, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I took the freedom of first putting it on XLinkBot's revertlist. That often is enough to stop them.  I actually wish some of the anti-spam admins would use it a bit more ..  --Dirk Beetstra T  C 15:54, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I've listed it now as it had previously be placed by IPs. However I am not against it's removal if the bot deals with it.  Thanks -- Herby  talk thyme 15:58, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Favor
I really hate to bother you, but I need your help. On June 24, I asked for a website to be unblocked so I could use it on Initiation (The Office). According to User:ThinkBlue, that page being blocked is the only thing preventing Initiation from reaching GA status. Could you please review my request or tell me someone who will? My orginal request can be found here. Thanks! -- Mr.crabby   (Talk)   13:52, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
 * OK sorted & good luck. Cheers -- Herby  talk thyme 16:40, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much! -- Mr.crabby   (Talk)   17:45, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

User:Asifsra
I note that you were the blocking admin where was repeatedly adding spam to articles. Now it appears that they are taking a more vandalising approach by removing other external links in an apparent "if I can't have mine here, I'll remove all the others" approach. I honestly have no idea what to do next with this person. Perhaps you or another admin watching your page might assist? --AliceJMarkham (talk) 06:31, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Just to say "I'm thinking" not ignoring! I can see two sides to this.  Disruption - bad, however some people who realise the situation become quite good spam fighters - good.  I'll do something soon.  Cheers -- Herby  talk thyme 08:01, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I've gone for "assuming good faith" & warned. However if you see any further disruption they probably should be reported & feel free to point to this section.  I'll be away now for a while.  Thanks & regards -- Herby  talk thyme 11:32, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

iOpener Media
Hello. You deleted last friday the page linked to my account, under the reason of "Blatant advertisment" which, at this point, was. I am actually new on wikipedia and lost in all the tutorial to make a proper informative (therefore not really an advertisment) article on my company, just like so many on them, giving fact and figures, as well as the history (just take the easy example of the article on Microsoft). I would appreciate if you can give me clue of how to make it so that it is in complying with the rules of Wikipedia. I also have been trying to upload the Logo of the company on Commons, but it was deleted as the moderator doubted I had the copyright on it. How can I add it then to my article? Thanks in advance. IOpenerMedia (talk) 08:14, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the time you took to answer my previous message. I was actually wondering how measurable is the "notability" through google, as when I enter the name, I still get over 36000 hits. Also, I am not sure I understand what you mean about licensing of the Logo. Under what conditions would I be allowed to upload and display mine? I guess that the conflict of interest point is also in order to limit the advertisement, but I must say, it would have been easy for me to ask a friend or any person who is not involved to put the article online. My intention is definitely not to sell the product of the company on wikipedia, but to give a history and description of the company, like I have seen existing articles for a lot of companies already. What would be the difference if I or someone else writes it? Thanks in advance for your answer. (IOpenerMedia (talk) 07:23, 8 July 2008 (UTC))

FYI
You have a Doppelgänger: - MrOllie (talk) 21:50, 7 July 2008 (UTC)


 * My crystal ball points here given it is exactly what I wrote on their talk page! Probably should be blocked.-- Herby  talk thyme 07:05, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Spam
Hi. In tagging a contributor page for link spamming, I noted that you had warned the same user a couple weeks ago. I wanted to direct you to User talk:ModaRazzi to note the warning I left, and the response after the editor left this threat on my talk page. I was hoping you might look into it. Thanks. Wildhartlivie (talk) 05:27, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Welcome back and thanks
Hi Herby. Welcome back from your wikibreak and thanks for reverting the vandalism to my user and talk :pages. I've just started using huggle and now I know where all the vandalism went - it's mostly being caught before Lupin's Anti-vandal tool gets a chance to show it! Got any more good photos for Commons? —S MALL JIM   14:21, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I just have a thing about people who attack others! The camera has 300+ pics on it but how many are "good" I need time to work out.  Equally they are not from the UK :)  Cheers -- Herby  talk thyme 12:44, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Tourist link placement
Hi,

i'm trying to change my domain from pamukkale.com to pamukkalehotels.com (content is EXACTLY the same, pamukkale.com has a new owner now and just has a parking page) but it gets removed.. Pamukkale was active since oct 2007 without any problems, thank you ! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Renek112 (talk • contribs) 11:39, 8 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I understand what you are saying. However Wikipedia is not a tourist directory and the links to such sites are not permitted in the external links guidelines.  The links should be removed on all projects.  Thanks -- Herby  talk thyme 12:12, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Renek112, vandalism of reports does not help. If you would offer an analysis why this sites content enriches the articles it is on, then that would help our assessment of the link.  Thanks.  --Dirk Beetstra T  C 12:15, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

thank you for your comments. I hope you've checkedout the site pamukkalehotels.com and you will see it has a lot of INFORMATION about Pamukkale and Hierapolis and it has pictures and videos of the most beautiful places out there, it's absolutely not a tourist directory. Pamukkale.com was listed throughout a lot of wikipedia versions since last year, but recently this domain has changed owners and the ORIGINAL site is transferred to pamukkalehotels.com, that's the only thing i want to change. Please reconsider, thank you for your time ! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Renek112 (talk • contribs) 12:23, 8 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia - it does not generally contain tourist information. Your actions in placing the link across wikis will be taken as spamming I am afraid.  -- Herby  talk thyme 12:28, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Corfu
Thanks Herby. Dr.K. (talk) 12:15, 9 August 2008 (UTC)


 * No problem. If I am around I can help I'll do what I can.  Cheers -- Herby  talk thyme 12:23, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

And again! My mistake was not to have kept WJCU on my watchlist: it's an irresistible target for whatever's the latest IP used by the permablocked person best known here as "Radioinfoguy". -- Hoary (talk) 15:03, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Re:I'm puzzled!
- 09:32, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Energy Art Movement
I would like an explanation for why my link to the Energy Art Movement has been deleted on the Art Manifesto page. I have read your usual responses about unwanted external links, but that simply doesn't apply here. The page has a separate section for manifestos found on the internet, and thus my link belongs there. I know that Wikipedia is full of external links meant to advertise, but that is not what I intended. Our organization is non-profit, so COI doesn't apply either. Before deleting a link, it would be nice if you kept in mind the informative nature of the encyclopedia, especially if a contributor follows the rules. Readers have a right to know about new initiatives. Energyartclub (talk) 19:57, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Capuchin Classics
I see no notability and I can't find any from my couch using Google! It's a recently founded company that prints old books as far as I can tell all by non-living authors and many already out of copyright. So it's not even as though they have anything to do with finding or nurturing great talent. The Guardian review is of the book not the publishing house. So I tend to agree with BozMo's prod. -- SiobhanHansa 18:52, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * PS - What d'ya mean mistakes? I haven't seen any bad judgment on your part.  You can't take upset editors leaving you messages too personally.  -- SiobhanHansa 18:55, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * That one's less obvious to me. I'd happily bet money on a promotional motive for the original editor but there are 3 pieces of national coverage - which is way more than many organizations have.  They're fairly poor quality pieces from an encyclopedic perspective but the org has managed to convince some biggish magazines that they're worthy of coverage so the content is poor but notability is possibly satisfied.  I think the article needs stubbing but I don't think it is clearly non-notable. -- SiobhanHansa 13:09, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I've tried to bring the China Care Foundation into line with our encyclopedic purpose. Would appreciate other experienced eyes once you're back.  I'll keep an eye on the other you mentioned.  But not feeling up to tackling much head on today!  -- SiobhanHansa 22:40, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Deletion?
Why did you delete my user page, citing "advertisement" when I was posting my information? I am not a spokesperson for a product or anything, that was just my personal information. The administrator whom placed the semi-protection on the page did not have a problem with it, so why did you delete it without asking me to change the wording or something first? I WILL reinstate the page perhaps in a more "Herbythyme"-friendly manner later, but I just want to know the thought-process behind deleting a page that an administrator was OK with?!

In addition to that, look at the history of my page, and you will see that I am dealing with a frequent vandal whom is also showing some signs of stalking (refer to the comment on my talk page, which was deleted). It took me a while to get that protection placed on my page, and now its back to square one, and this person will probably deface my page again thanks to you, and if they show any more signs of cyberstalking then I will probably have to hire a lawyer and the such to protect myself against a possible crazy person. Again, why?

Anthony cargile (talk) 19:32, 17 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, except that the semi-protection is lost now thanks to the deletion of my page. User pages are not encyclopedia entries and should not be moderated quite as much as that, and even at that I should have been warned before just deleting the page. Gee, thanks.


 * Anthony cargile (talk) 14:11, 18 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Ok, thank you. Just linking to the "about me" page like that should suffice, then. Thanks for the help!
 * Anthony cargile (talk) 16:51, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you!
Thank you very much, Herby. I just left my opinion in the AfD of Jorge Queirolo B. and hope we can take down ASAP all of this cross-wiki spam and vanity. See you in Commons  Cheers! KveD (talk) 18:18, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Blocked user got unblocked?
On August 21 you blocked User:86.96.228.87 and refused his request to unblock. On August 22 User:86.96.228.87 is active again in a most dubious way. I have reverted two of his contributions, but please look at his two edits in List of companies involved with ATMs. Looks suspiciously like spam or self-advert. --Zlerman (talk) 10:02, 22 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry been occupied (& still am). I agree in part however it is a shared IP address so not right to block it for any long period.  Regards -- Herby  talk thyme 18:19, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

links and ban
NEW!!! Can you please let me know why you remove my links and blocked me. There is no info for alcaidesa except some sales pitch. My site is a genuine resource to the area. What is the problem. I dont even know how to use this comments page so i am sorry but not sure where else to ask. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alcaidesa-sotogrande (talk • contribs) 20:19, August 22, 2008

Oh you moved my comment so you are there. please let me know why i cannot contribute to the alcaidesa page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alcaidesa-sotogrande (talk • contribs) 20:34, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * No, it wasn't Herbythyme, I moved your comment to its own section just to make it more visible as it didn't appear to be directly connected to the section where it was originally added. Standard practice is to start new discussions at the bottom of a talk page with its own section.  From Herbythyme's recent edits, it appears that he hasn't been active for a few hours now - so it could be a while before you see a reply.
 * I don't know the details of the edits you're asking about and I didn't see a ban on the account that it appeared you were asking about ... but as a general place to start on why external links are most frequently removed, take a look at WP:ELNO and WP:NOT.
 * Incidentally, if there was a ban, then you should wait for that ban to expire rather than creating a new account - using multiple accounts to get around a ban is called sock puppetry and is considered a form of disruption which could result in further bans.  --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 20:44, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

ok thanks. i am sorry but i am new to wikipedia and not informed about all the practices. will make sure to read up. I made two contributions but both were edited and my external links where removed although there is commercial links on both the pages i contributed too which are still there. they may have paid up for all i know while individual contribution may not be welcome. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alcaidesa-sotogrande (talk • contribs) 20:56, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

A few more likely Hanson sock puppets to block
Re. Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spam/2008 Archive Aug 1, here are a few more of his old sock puppets: Please block them when you have a moment. Nunquam Dormio (talk) 08:58, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Deletion of Oodles.com
Hi Admin,

Would it possible to go through the deleted page to further understand which areas can be improved. As the reason for deletion is a little extreme and all but 2 references cited were from third party newspaper websites and industry/trade based websites in Australia.

I look forward to your feedback.

regards Rod.Cejudo (talk) 05:04, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Starry Night Lights page deletion
Hi Herby

I was working with another administrator regarding my site. I'd made a number of modifications, additions... added citations and references. When I got in the office a short while ago, I saw that you'd deleted my page. I understand your role, but don't feel your action was justified. Just because I have a company that sells products does not mean that I am unfit for inclusion on wikipedia. My company, Starry Night Lights is unique in its focus on providing night sky friendly lighting. I made considerable modifications to try to remove anything salesy or marketish from the tone. I tried to simply mention the company, why and when it was founded, and briefly discuss its mission. I did not display specific products, or links to products. I could find dozens of examples of similar companies on wikipedia in just minutes. For that matter... what make any company wiki-notable? IBM or Dell computers? They manufacture and sell computers and equipment. EBay... they don't manufacture anything... they're hardcore sales. I thought I did a pretty decent job of being objective and referencing related wiki pages (dark sky movement, international dark sky association, etc) I was willing to make additional changes... add citations... references... etc. I feel that my company is notable. Starry Night Lights has been discussed in the NY Times, High Country News, Astronomy Magazine, Sky and Telescope Magazine, numerous green building and green lifestyle blogs. These are significant and respectable source. What my company is doing is significant. Many of these same for profit businesses have wiki pages. I felt compelled to offer better content because of the comments of the first administrator who flagged my site. I think the content was improved because of his scrutiny and his comments. However, I feel that you swooped in and deleted my page unfairly and without any word to me. Please explain your actions more thoroughly. Please let me know how my page was so different and inferior to other companies listed on wikipedia. Thanks for your time.

Anthony Arrigo (talk) 17:57, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Take a squiz?
Hi Herby - since you're pretty active there, could you please take a look at this. Thanks. Giggy (talk) 06:42, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually not very active here really for now (saving myself for "elsewhere" mostly :)). Sorry -- Herby  talk thyme 10:02, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Copyright Infringement
Hello Herby, You deleted an article posted about me. It is not copyright infringement, if I am the owner of the copyright, and I grant permission to the poster, and to Wikipedia to post the content from the biography profile of my web site.

It is not an advertisement. It was simply my BIO info -- just like many other authors who have biography profiles in Wikipedia.

It was nice to see my information, and then not so much, when it disappeared. I would prefer to have to reposted. Don't I deserve a listing, just like the other published authors with BIOs on Wikipedia have? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Angelbell (talk • contribs) 09:36, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Deletion of eJay?
Hey, not that I'm complaining per se (I'd considered taking it to AfD myself), but the eJay article was about a piece of software, and wasn't biographical, but you'd put as the CSD reason A7 for biographies. Also, it seems odd that a software article could be deleted via A7. &mdash;/M endaliv /2¢/Δ's/ 15:24, 12 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes - my bad definitely (I was working through so "advert" ones & it looked like one so I went ahead..... without reading the tag as well as I should have :)).
 * Restored (& A7 tag removed for now). Kinda think it should go so if you do AfD it feel free to prod me!  Cheers -- Herby  talk thyme 16:18, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, I wondered if that might be the case. As to deletion... note I'd said that I'd considered AfD: after some searching around and finding mentions in mainstream publications, it seems like a notable game series. Just that the article sucks for the time being. I'm gonna try to do a quick rewrite and reduce it to something passable. &mdash;/M endaliv /2¢/Δ's/ 16:57, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Spam whitelisting
I proposed (well... echoed) an addition to the spam whitelist here. It's one you've already responded to - any chance you could take a quick look and update? Cheers, Orpheus (talk) 03:50, 18 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry I really am effectively inactive here for now :(. -- Herby talk thyme 09:01, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

This is relating to Independent International Investment Research article. Can we know why the article was deleted though we provided reason for its relevance and encyclopedic nature in its talk page.

User page deletion
It's unfortunate that you think my information is Blatant Advertisement.

However, that edit won't work for you this time Mr. herbythyme "Professorking (talk) 10:49, 2 October 2008 (UTC)"


 * Responded on rather un collaborative user's talk page.-- Herby talk thyme 11:15, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Watch, Analyse, Understand and Decide action
I will appreciate if you follow these rules Sir.

Need clarification
I dont get it, the article on Crickees.com wasnt an advertisement piece, I have other places to do that. It was a description about the Game. How come then you allow Zapak.com and the other games as well man? After the website is launched people will probably search information regarding the game and thats the purpose of the article. Reconsider and get back to me, if you had taken your time to read the article you would have understood that the tone of neutrality was maintained throughout. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Norbertlincoln (talk • contribs) 11:26, 10 October 2008 (UTC)


 * It was an encyclopaedic article written in the form of an advertisement for the website (as was your user page). Thanks -- Herby  talk thyme 11:28, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

I was using my Userpage as a sandbox. It was an encyclopaedic article, meant for documenting the existence of the website. I have reworked the article. Check it out now.--Norbertlincoln (talk) 11:53, 10 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Well - as you can see another editor thinks it should be deleted although for a different reason on the rewrite. Let's see if it gets deleted.  -- Herby  talk thyme 12:17, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Removed it. Tnank you.--Norbertlincoln (talk) 16:27, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Interactive coaching
Hi - just letting you know I've WP:SALTed the article, as the editor seems reluctant to give up. Regards, --Oscarthecat (talk) 13:17, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes - probably wise - they do seem a little persistent :) Thanks -- Herby  talk thyme 13:19, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Your restoration of the content of User talk:Norbertlincoln
Hi. I noticed you restored material that had been blanked by Norbertlincoln from his own talk page. People are allowed to blank their user talk pages; when they remove a warning, it's interpreted as a sign that they've read it, and it remains viewable in the page's history.—Largo Plazo (talk) 12:31, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll not disagree with you although I do not see it quite as you do - it does rather depend on what, how, when to my mind. However if you look at the section above you will see I have interacted with that user.  The page itself is far more accessible quickly than the history in case they decide to go on recreating things they have had deleted (which has been known to happen). Cheers -- Herby  talk thyme 13:15, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Another User Page Deletion
I would like to start a page about Quality Care, The Nature Care Company, from Coralville, IA, but before even beginning, my user page was deleted. TruGreen Chem Lawn of ServiceMaster, a similar business in the area, has an untouched page. What is the difference here, and what makes an advertisement, rather than an informative page about the legacy of a business that has been serving its local community for over 25 years? QualityCare (talk) 14:45, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Page deletion
I have launched a new open source project on SIP testing and one person belonging to the company that sponsored the project, went on and created the page "sipper". I see that it is now deleted by you. I have no intention of any advertising through Wikipedia as I value the standards set by Wikipedia. I also do not want that if down the road when the some other bonafide user wants to create a page on this free software then he/she should face any issues. Let me know what can be done to re-create the page with useful content so that people can benefit from this information. Napoleon09 (talk) 16:10, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

I did not create the page, but it was created for my project by someone. The page was titled "Sipper". Napoleon09 (talk) 16:46, 13 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Ok that was tagged by another user as an advert & I agreed. It certainly was not an encyclopaedic entry.  You can create something however bear in mind that it may be tagged for deletion by someone else.  What is the relationship between you & user:Debashisrout please?  -- Herby  talk thyme 17:17, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Agreed that the content there was inappropriate and did look like an advert. The user user:Debashisrout works for the same company as I do but has no role in this open source project which is a separate entity. He created the page on his on volition (I would never have asked him to create such content that would be flagged right away). The question is that an entry would be tagged if it was previously deleted or purely on the merit or veracity of the contents. Napoleon09 (talk) 17:23, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

User:Hm2k
I prepared this for WP:COIN, but thought it would be better to find a less threatening approach given the other dispute he's in with me:

Has added links to a website that is identical to his username:


 * 14:53, 5 July 2007 to Xen
 * 10:21, 10 April 2008 to MagicISO
 * 12:13, 6 June 2008 to E-mail_address

He was given a coi warning 09:58, 14 June 2008 by Herbythyme after restoring the link in E-mail address.

Since then he restored the link in MagicISO on 12:22, 30 July 2008 after it was removed and was aware that his link in E-mail address remained when he edited the sentence containing the link on 11:09, 21 September 2008.

I couldn't find any new additions of the link, so I think it got through that he shouldn't be adding them. Maybe all he needs is a friendly reminder by someone other than myself? --Ronz (talk) 20:38, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Just noticed your busy message. I'll sit on it if you don't reply, then take it to a regular at COIN or maybe an admin. --Ronz (talk) 00:22, 16 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi & thanks for the message. Currently not quite keeping my head above water!  I think you are correct & I think someone should have a word with the user.  However I really don't like getting involved in something I can't be sure I will give full attention to so, if you can, do find someone else.  If you get stuck then get back to me & I'll see what I can do.  Cheers -- Herby  talk thyme 11:59, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your time. --Ronz (talk) 16:44, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

While this hasn't gone as well as it could, I think it's resolved. More than anything, I think he just needs some time to cool off. --Ronz (talk) 19:29, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Page deletion
Hi Herby, I see you have deleted a (draft) page I posted on my userpage. Could you please give me some guidelines about re-submitting the entry? For instance, I see the Ebay one and I don't quite understand why it was not considered to be blatant advertising. If you guide me through a little bit.. Looking forward to hearing from you, Lcelenza (talk) 13:02, 16 October 2008 (UTC)