User talk:HereToHelp/Archive 10

IPods
Yes, this is an odd one in that it's a transclusion rather than a template as such. As such it satisfies WP:NFCC in spirit but not in letter. Of course, the best thing would be to get free images of the two phones! Black Kite 19:51, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Welcoming Users on Strategy Wiki
Hi, just wanted to drop a note to let you know that User:Mwpnl configured a welcome bot for us - there shouldn't be any need to welcome users manually any more. But watch for a malfunctioning bot, just in case, and block it if it's being bad. It's User:StrategyBot. - Philippe 18:58, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

re Bluecanary99
I've responded on the SPI page. --Golbez (talk) 16:28, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Talk:IPod#Correction
Thanks for doing the 'editsemiprotected' request.

In future, when you do those, could you please stick "tn|" in the template, ie, so it is no longer flagged as needing attention? You might want to use ✅ too. See this edit. Keep up the good work; cheers!  Chzz  ►  03:24, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

AfD Compromise
Hey, having looked at the comments on the AfD, I've proposed a compromise...no idea if I can actually do it, but I followed WP:IAR and just went ahead and did it anyways. Would love to hear your feedback. Frmatt (talk) 21:33, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Invitation to participate in SecurePoll feedback and workshop
As you participated in the recent Audit Subcommittee election, or in one of two requests for comment that relate to the use of SecurePoll for elections on this project, you are invited to participate in the SecurePoll feedback and workshop. Your comments, suggestions and observations are welcome. For the Arbitration Committee, Risker (talk) 08:09, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of File:Ipod Touch 1st Generation.JPG
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Talkback
Seraphimblade Talk to me 03:52, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Removal of PROD from Veg-O-Matic
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iPod Classic
Hi HeretoHelp, I'm rather new at editing Wikipedia pages, but I have been so angry about the recent alleged incompatibility problems between iTunes 9 and iPod Classics that I researched and added a page to the iTunes article and the iPod Classic article. You politely removed my edit from the iTunes page, and I accept your explanation. However, a different user edited my contribution to the iPod Classic page, saying that my sources were unreliable under Wikipedia standards. I disupte that and wonder if you could take a look at it. I think that editor was being too stringent, but I don't have the Wikipedia expertise to back it up. I'm refering specifically to the last paragraph under http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipod_classic#Hardware_issues. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.92.1.199 (talk) 22:23, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

HeretoHelp -- thanks for your reply to my talk page re: iPod Classic. One point: the problem really *is* widespread. I know this isn't a valid Wikipedia source, but for point of information, see this discussion board: http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2151907&start=0&tstart=0 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.92.1.199 (talk) 23:48, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

-- NerdyScienceDude :)  (click here to talk to me) 00:32, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Policy Report
A summary of the community's comments on our WP:Edit warring policy will be featured in the Policy Report in next Monday's Signpost, and you're invited to participate. Monthly changes to this page are available at WP:Update/1/Conduct policy changes, July 2009 to December 2009, and it may help to look at previous policy surveys at WT:SOCK, WT:CIVILITY or WT:U. There's a little more information at WT:Edit warring. I'm not watchlisting here, so if you have questions, feel free to ask there or at my talk page. Thanks for your time. (P.S. Your edit to WT:3RR, which was merged into this page, was months ago, but we haven't had much participation in the survey so far this week.) - Dank (push to talk) 02:39, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

iPhone, Limitations Worthy of Highlighted Section
Limitations should be clearly stated; not dodgingly sprinkled. Some of this information is not already included and/or incomplete. It is necessary for the completion of complete and unbiased source. Happy trails! --NayadethFigueroa (talk) 03:36, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Help needed with Mac reviews
Could you take a look at Articles_for_deletion/BeLight_Software and comment if the allegations of "bought reviews" in MacWorld etc. ring true or not? Thanks, Pcap ping  15:51, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

By the way, I looked at WikiProject Apple Inc. first, but their talk page is red... So, I'm not sure anyone is still watching it. Pcap ping  15:51, 23 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Sure. And I watch WP:MAC, but nothing ever happens with it. There are maybe half a dozen editors who actively contribute to Apple-related articles. HereToHelp (talk to me) 16:18, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
 * If those Mac magazines, MacWorld and MacUser, are nor reliable sources for the notability of Mac software, then perhaps a notice at WP:RS/N is in order; it's easier to find it there in the future AfDs. I don't know much about the Mac literature. I did some (paid) programming on the platform at one point porting some Posix software to it, but I don't follow the Mac shows, read the magazines etc. I'm not a fan, or even much "in the know"... Pcap  ping  20:56, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I've never heard of MacUser (probably because it's British and I'm in the States), but MacWorld is a reliable source for information, but it does not (on its own) confer notability. For example, just because they reviewed a TED viewer app for iPhone does not mean it needs its own article, just a sentence at TED (conference). In fact, I'm going to go do that now. HereToHelp (talk to me) 21:20, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree that even trivial Mac software tends to get unusually high levels of attention in the IT press. Articles for deletion/Super Get Info seems to prove that. Pcap ping  13:49, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps I'm too dismissive of Apple Design Award (at MacWorld Expo, where else); see Articles for deletion/Transmit (FTP client). Thanks, Pcap ping  22:22, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm starting to sense we need a notability guideline about software...HereToHelp (talk to me) 23:05, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments
I agree strongly with your views expressed in the BeLight Software debate. Just a word of caution, don't express your views too often or you might wind up wrapped in a recent ArbCom dispute. I wish I was kidding! Have a happy holidays, JBsupreme (talk) 20:08, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

File:Ipod Touch 1st Generation.JPG listed for deletion
An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, File:Ipod Touch 1st Generation.JPG, has been listed at Files for deletion. Please see the to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Angus McLellan (Talk) 23:02, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

William McKinley
Hello: I saw your name listed on the WikiProject U.S. Presidents page and was wondering if you would consider semi-protecting the William McKinley article. It gets vandalized by anonymous IPs several times a day. Currently it is move-protected, but it seems like protection from anonymous IP vandals might be warranted. Thank you, BMRR (talk) 03:01, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

WikiLove
Hello, HereToHelp. I placed a heart on your user page as a way to spread the WikiLove. If you don't want the heart on your user page, feel free to remove it. Thank you. - Nerdy Science Dude :)  (✉ click to talk • my edits) 03:38, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * By the way, I liked your old user page better. The Main Page design was awesome. - Nerdy Science Dude :)  (✉ click to talk • my edits) 03:38, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

WIkiProject Mac
Hello ,

There hasn't been much activity at WikiProject Mac lately, and I saw your name on the list of active participants. If you are willing to jump in again, please consider helping to revive the project!


 * Put WikiProject Macintosh on the talk pages of articles involving Macintosh and Apple. This helps to categorize articles!
 * Write, cleanup, or expand an article about Macintosh/Apple
 * Source a Biography of a living person living in, born in, or otherwise affiliated with Macintosh/Apple
 * Help spread the word about the project
 * Update the project page or the portal
 * Watchlist or check the project talk page for updates

If you know anyone who might be interested in Macintosh/Apple, please pass this message along to them! If you are still interested in the project but aren't currently active, please add yourself to the list of inactive participants at the bottom of this list. Thanks!

On behalf of the project, iBen 21:32, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

iPad Pricing
Hi HereToHelp, I'm currently in the middle of a discussion about whether the pricing of the iPad should be included in that article. Would you mind taking a look at the discussion on the talk page when you have a chance? Thanks! ~ Paul T +/C 18:11, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

iPhone image change
Sorry about that, I shouldn't have made it a minor edit. -- Eraserhead1 &lt;talk&gt; 22:02, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Talkback
 Nerdy Science Dude :)  (✉ click to talk • my edits • sign) 03:15, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Image summary
Nice summary on the new 3.0 image. Here's hoping it works. Still feel bad about getting the last one deleted, was just trying to get clarification. Don't worry no intent to repeat that mistake. PaleAqua (talk) 07:20, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Let me add my thanks for tweaking the image page. I was puzzling over how to properly add a new version. Fletcher (talk) 14:52, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Accrediting images
Hi! Thanks for uploading images to Wikimedia! I want to use the image of 4 iPod chargers in a textbook, but should we attribute by saying "Photo by HereToHelp" or some other format? Thanks again.--Kenmayer (talk) 19:09, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
 * This one? How about "Photo by HereToHelp on Wikipedia." What kind of textbook? HereToHelp (talk to me) 00:48, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

File:Admin mop question.png
HereToHelp, I was wondering what font you used for the question mark used in the image. I am planning to make a similar icon for wannabe bureaucrats.  Nerdy Science Dude :)  (✉ click to talk • my edits • sign) 03:00, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Hope you don't mind someone else answering, but my guess would be Georgia Bold. PaleAqua (talk) 07:27, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 * (Sorry I was a way for a few days.) That was so long ago I have no idea, so thank you PaleAqua. You could try making the new image an svg, as the tag suggests (I don't think the mop is vectorized, but the bureaucrat symbol might be). HereToHelp (talk to me) 18:06, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * It's alright, PaleAqua gave me a reasonable reply. I actually created the image a few days ago. It's File:Bureaucrat question.png. Unfortunately I do not know how to work with SVGs.  Nerdy Science Dude :)  (✉ click to talk • my edits • sign) 18:47, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for File:IPhone keyboard unblured.jpg
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Citation
Sure, no problem, thanks for popping by to clarify :) Here is its wiki page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bomb_Magazine if you want to have a look, it's a sort of artists' cross-dialogue publication, with the format meant to encourage candour and insight from the interview subjects. All good wishes, KarlBattery (talk) 05:15, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

iPhone
For what it's worth, I went back and compared the article before and after my changes and found that no images were pushed down. But, if you do find that they shift images around, I think we should use the "extendable lists" (I'm not really sure what you call them, but you know those things with the show/hide boxes next to them?) found in the PlayStation 3 infobox. You also mentioned that when the iPhone 4G is released, then the article will get too complicated. When that happens, shouldn't we just separate each iteration of the iPhone into their own separate articles? The List of iPhone OS devices article is already very complicated and should just remain a comparison chart. I would even say that that article should eventually be split into separate "Comparison of iPhone models," "iPod touch models," and "iPad models." As for the TRRS edit, thanks for clarifying. I really didn't know that. :] All the best, Horserice (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 01:50, 8 April 2010 (UTC).

FAR
nominated Macintosh for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 22:28, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject Macintosh Revival
Hello, ! You've listed yourself as an active member of WikiProject Macintosh, which is currently seeing very little activity. We are trying to revive the project and your help would be appreciated. To see who is active and who is not, we will be listing all active members under "status pending" in the project's participant list. Please move your name to either the "former members" section or "active" section. Hope to see you in the "active" column! For more information on how to help the project, visit the How to help section at our project page! &middot; EdwardsBot (talk) 02:33, 26 April 2010 (UTC)


 * I see your File:WikiProject Mac Banner 2.png and raise you File:WikiProject Macintosh banner.png. You're welcome to use it if you prefer it :) &mdash; PretzelsHii! 19:11, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
 * More Apple-y text and you manage to fit Wikiproject on there. I might just have to fold. Can you do it for iPhone OS, too? HereToHelp (talk to me) 19:58, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Done. Glad you like it! &mdash; PretzelsHii! 20:29, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I do - officially. HereToHelp (talk to me) 21:46, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Current Mac Collaboration
Regarding your edit to this page, I believe Macintosh is currently a WP:FA, see here. I noticed the discussion here, however, I am wondering if you are attempting to have the FA demoted. What is your goal? Smiles, m o n o National Pretzel Day 00:00, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Featured picture candidates/Review of closure process 2
Because you've contributed to FPC either recently or in the past, I'm letting you know about the above poll on the basis of which we may develop proposals to change our procedures and criteria. Regards, Papa Lima Whiskey  (talk) 23:30, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Talkback
m o n o National Pretzel Day 23:55, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Macintosh FAR
I added a second batch of problems with the article to the FAR. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 19:06, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Featured picture candidates/Review of closure process 2
Because you've contributed to FPC either recently or in the past, I'm letting you know about the above poll on the basis of which we may develop proposals to change our procedures and criteria. Regards, Papa Lima Whiskey  (talk) 09:36, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Deletion Discussion for Criticism of Apple Inc.
Hey, I noticed you edit a lot of articles relating to Apple Inc. so I thought you might be interested in participating in the deletion discussion for Criticism of Apple Inc. - EdoDodo  talk 20:24, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Talkback
m o ɳ o 23:46, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject Macintosh Role Call
Hello, ! You've listed yourself as an active member of WikiProject Macintosh, which is currently being revived. Your help would be appreciated! To see who is active and who is not, we will be listing all active members under "status pending" in the project's participant list. Please move your name to either the "former members" section or "active" section. The role call will end May 31; please move your name now if you are still interested. For more information on how to help the project, visit the How to help section at our project page! &middot MonoBot04:17, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Macintosh#Suggestion_to_rename_project
You are invited to join the discussion |here. m o n o 05:09, 8 May 2010 (UTC) (Using )

Mac OS memory management
Any chance you could help improve this article? It's been nominated for deletion for lack of references. Pcap ping  01:08, 10 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Sorry, that's beyond the area of my knowledge. If you're familiar with it, you can merge the important points into the history section of Macintosh. HereToHelp (talk to me) 01:25, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

|DVGA discussion
Please see the reply. DenisRS (talk) 19:41, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Please see another reply. DenisRS (talk) 08:07, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

 Hello HereToHelp, Mono has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Go on, smile! Cheers, and happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message. m o ɳ o 00:01, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Obsolete Mac redirect pages
Hello. Since you're an admin for WP:APPLE, is it OK if I ask you to delete the following Macintosh redirect pages that are orphaned? It's non-controversial and I don't see any future use for them, but they don't seem to fall under any CSD criteria:


 * 1) WikiProject Macintosh/Participants/Pending
 * 2) WikiProject Macintosh/Newsletter (I also listed it at RFD)
 * 3) WikiProject Macintosh/Article alerts (I also listed it at RFD)

Thanks,

Airplaneman  ✈  01:56, 16 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Done. The relevant CSD criteria is the unwritten rule of administrator discretion, related to wp:snowball, IAR, and G6. Hopefully an early close at RFD won't draw too much attention. HereToHelp (talk to me) 15:18, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks - I wasn't sure whether to G6 them or not. There are new developments at WT:APPLE. Airplaneman   ✈  23:37, 16 May 2010 (UTC)


 * I changed the banner for you, as requested. Good luck with the new project! :) &mdash; PretzelsHii! 22:39, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you.-- m o ɳ o 23:18, 16 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Congrats! I'm G6-ing the redirect WikiProject Apple Inc./iPhone OS Task Force as well. Airplaneman   ✈  21:44, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Revert of Musical Saw
Since you last revert Musical Saw the editor has gone back to editing it. Looking at it, it really doesn't seem to be vandalism. (compare your last edit with his last edit and read carefully) Feel free to leave me a talkback, Spitfire19  (Talk) 18:43, 20 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Hmm. I saw it in recent changes with a "references removed" tag and perhaps was a little too hasty with that rollback button. He's moving things around in a way that doesn't make much sense, but other than the refs doesn't do much harm.... I'll leave it to you. HereToHelp (talk to me) 18:52, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, I just left him a friendly reminder to restore the references to the edits he's making Spitfire19 (Talk) 19:13, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

IPhone 4G
Hi, I see you salted the article at IPhone 4G in July 2009. Since that time, the whole issue with the 4G and the article by Gizmodo has come up, and someone has started an article on it at Iphone 4g. I've done minor cosmetic work on the article (it still needs an awful lot of cleanup), and discovered the salt when I tried to move it to the correctly-named page as part of that.

What's the right approach here? I'd suggest unsalting IPhone 4G and moving it. This is one of the rare cases where a still-unreleased product is notable due to the Gizmodo kerfuffle. I suppose it could be under a name like "Gizmodo iPhone 4G controversy," but that's a pretty unlikely search term, and its content would just be merged into IPhone 4G when it the product is released. TJRC (talk) 17:47, 21 May 2010 (UTC)


 * The name "iPhone 4G" is inappropriate because it (probably) does not use 4G cellular technology. We decided that iPhone 3G and iPhone 3GS were inappropriate because it would lead to mostly duplicate information. We do have List of iPhone OS devices, but we'll need to wait until it's official. I suggest we take the content and sources and merge them into iPhone, salt the page, and every other similar page we can think of. (If you're not an admin, tell me and I'll handle it.) HereToHelp (talk to me) 20:53, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Re: iPhone
I'm not sure if there's any mention of this in the WP:MOS; I do know that it is suggested that hatnotes at the to of articles be placed before anything else, including images, however. In regards to hatnotes at the top of sections, the reason I moved them before the images is because previously, the hatnotes were not indented; now that they are placed before they images, they are indented. The hatnotes SHOULD be separated as clearly as possible from the rest of the text, since they exist to highlight articles that are uniquely important to that particular section. Gary King ( talk ) 21:24, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
 * It's just a hack since if the image size changes then it'll need changing, but okay. Gary King  ( talk ) 16:11, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Ah.
You shrank a already shrunken image on Apple Inc. Why is this needed? And, seeing as your contribs are all about Apple, I say you are an Apple fanboy. User: 209.188.63.194 (User talk: 209.188.63.194) —Preceding undated comment added 21:57, 23 May 2010 (UTC).
 * See WP:NFC. How does being an Apple fan have to do with any of this? Airplaneman   ✈  22:07, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Apple template revision
Erm... just wondering, what should I have said? I don't want to make the same mistake again. Thanks, Airplaneman   ✈  21:53, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Don't be offended; I was not in the best mood when i made that edit. Basically, any use of big fonts, exclamation points, and false or overdone enthusiasm is not helpful (IMHO). That's all. HereToHelp (talk to me) 00:18, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
 * OK - I thought it was directed at my last edit; that is what I was confused about. Thanks for clarifying; I'll keep this in mind. Airplaneman   ✈  03:17, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Ads
Hello!

Can you help me and advice me how to create wikipedia ads?

I want to create two ads, but i really dont know how. Thanks in advance!

- Tadijaspeaks 14:57, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Go here to start :). Airplaneman   ✈  15:43, 31 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much! :) -- Tadijaspeaks 20:14, 31 May 2010 (UTC)


 * I just got back from a few days of Wikibreak....wow.... HereToHelp (talk to me) 15:13, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Grab some glory, and a barnstar
Hi, I'd like to invite you to participate in the Guild of Copy Editors July 2010 Backlog Elimination Drive. In May, about 30 editors helped remove the tag from 1175 articles. The backlog is still over 7500 articles, and extends back to the beginning of 2008! We really need your help to reduce it. Copyediting just a couple articles can qualify you for a barnstar. Serious copyeditors can win prestigious and exclusive rewards. See the event page for more information. And thanks for your consideration. m o n o  00:39, 12 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately I'm going to be out of the country in July (and half of august), so my editing will be minimal if not nonexistent. Sorry. HereToHelp (talk to me) 01:56, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

iPhone 4
Hi, I just wanted to ask if you could unlock the iPhone 4 article page so that we (anyone) can perform a split.

The iPhone article is currently over 100 KB, and Wikipedia suggests that any page of 100 KB should almost indefinitely be split, additionally, the iPhone page has become far to complicated to understand. It has been discussed a number of times on the iPhone's talk page, and there are currently two active discussions taking place. There has been considerable amount of support for the idea of splitting the article into 5 or 4 articles, giving each model their own page, and having an additional article to discuss the iPhone line in general, in a similar way to the iPod and iMac articles.

86.129.192.49 (talk) 18:43, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

New iPad image
Can we discuss this as part of the GA review? The reviewer complained the current image is too dark. -- Eraserhead1 &lt;talk&gt; 13:51, 19 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Sure. HereToHelp (talk to me) 13:54, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

iphone 4
Could you please unprotect iphone 4 (as typed with a lower case "p" as opposed to the upper case "P"), as it is still protected for some reason and cannot be redirected to the iPhone 4 page as it should be, rather than the ambiguous iPhone page. Thank you.--Jojhutton (talk) 15:44, 19 June 2010 (UTC)


 * It's still protected, but I changed the redirect. HereToHelp (talk to me) 16:07, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Don't understand the continued need for protection, but thanks for making the switch.--Jojhutton (talk) 16:15, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Pronunciations
Thanks for the note about pronunciations -- I've corrected the IPA and removed the incorrect respelling in the articles you mention. I do find it silly/pedantic to indicate the pronunciation of the letters and numbers, but I've left it nonetheless. --Macrakis (talk) 23:20, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Macintosh FAR
Hi HereToHelp - Are you still working on Macintosh, attempting to rectify issues brought up at the FAR? The review has quite a few outstanding delists, and if there wasn't an editor obviously interested in improving the article (you), it would have most likely been delisted already. If you are still interested in working in the article within the contraints of FAR, I will keep the review open. If you don't have the time, there is also always the option of it being delisted now and being brought back to FAC whenever you feel it is ready, whether that is in two months or two years. Please let me know your feelings on this, and also, please feel free to ping reviewers who have entered delist declarations if you feel that you have fixed or responded to their objections. Thanks in advance, Dana boomer (talk) 02:38, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I came here to ask the same thing. It's been open since early April; a peer review should be done separately, and the sources dealt with independently. I think consensus to to delist now, and fix the rest without a deadline.  — fetch ·  comms   02:46, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Talkback
You have  new messages ( last change ).  — fetch ·  comms   13:44, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Replied there.  — fetch ·  comms   15:22, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

File nominated for deletion
See. Thanks. ÷seresin 10:00, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

File:IPhone 3G.jpg
File:IPhone 3G.jpg - fill what needs to be filled. -- Zoo Fari  20:43, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

iPhone 4
Who said it has to be a straight-on shot? Something as shiny as the iPhone tends to come out badly in a shot like that, but taking it from an angle looks nicer and is easier to see. I've seen plenty of straight on photos we have on here of the iPhone, I think it came out better this way. When this photo is cropped, it comes out awkward because the photo was clearly taken at an angle. Trust me: I tried taking one straight on (and I'll try again), but it just looks nicer like this. aido2002 talk · userpage 03:40, 27 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Alright, that much makes sense. I'll get on that. aido2002 talk · userpage 03:47, 27 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Take a look, let me know what you think. aido2002 talk · userpage 03:56, 27 June 2010 (UTC)


 * I'll do that. And I agree, I think the home screen, on a phone that is all screen, is like a set of buttons. aido2002 talk · userpage 05:07, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

iPad + barnstar
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"Part of the problem is maintaining order when there aren't many involved editors to watch anonymous additions"

Yeah, I feel your pain - I haven't even logged in for a real edit for about 3 years, and have to spend a lot of time cleaning up 2 years or so worth of edits on Microsoft (teetering on becoming a FARC itself). It's sad to see the old FA tech articles decay.... you'd hope several editors would step in and at least try to keep the articles tidy but unfortunately it seems to be a one or two-man job still.

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 * 1) Ignore the comments concerning referencing in the lead section; mostly because some of the more serious reviewers if it goes back to FAC are going to stick it to you on (double)referencing in the lead section on every sentence, controversial or not.
 * 2) As mentioned David raises a lot of points - it really needs to be written in more of a historical context, as it keeps mentioning "current" and generally current tense which is bad for FA's in general.  Furtunately it's a lot easier to fix then it sounds, just a bunch of prose reworking.
 * 3) Also mentioned is the pictures of the OS, and tying in your question of what "macintosh" really defines.  In my opinion it's safer to assume the Mac OS article takes care of more of the software details - as you'll have a much more solid fair use ground for the OS pictures - and the macintosh article mostly focusing on the "pure" hardware macintosh computers, and just consider the iPad, iPhone etc. as seperate entities for now.  This is probably where the real work lies, although even then it isn't that bad.  As mentioned, just make sure to keep it in context and consider Mac OS as the operating system and Macintosh as the hardware.
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In summary, just needs a bit of a rework; and structure is easy to fix - really just a solid few days, if that. So, don't get too upset if it gets delisted, the problems are relateively easy to fix, as least from what I can see. RN 15:46, 2 July 2010 (UTC)


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Well, when they say it has too much history, they are right in a way - just need to de-emphasize the software more in the history section, which really should be in Mac OS anyway. I think you're overcomplicating things just a bit, I mean it's clearly a combination of all 3 types of personalities you mentioned - it's just the hardware side of it. Since in the apple world the hardware is the end-product and not the software like MS things like how it was advertised and such (Justin Long etc.) can still be mentioned in a passing way; at least if you like my suggestion for the article anyway. RN 16:19, 2 July 2010 (UTC)


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 * "In 1987, Apple spun off its software business as Claris. It was given the code [etc...]"" get into way too much detail about the company and/or software and could be summarized in like.... 1 sentence (not to mention the paragraph after that which is almost 100% company-oriented). The problem is it can't really be a catch-all article, or I should say it can, but you need to decide on the priority of what you are going to emphasize, and adjust and condense accordingly, and since there are already articles for the OS and company itself my feeling was to simply prioritize the hardware.  Feel free to disagree though. RN 17:14, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

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iPad 2
Please unprotect this page. I'll be blunt: there is absolutely no evidence of actual or threatened disruption after the redirect, which makes protection goes directly against the protection policy ("Pre-emptive full protection of articles is contrary to the open nature of Wikipedia."). Moreover, two out of three editors in a discussion cannot make a "consensus" except in exceedingly rare cases, which this one is not. And since you proposed and supported the redirect, it is especially inappropriate for you to then attempt to lock the page to your favored version. This is against both the admin policy and the protection policy ("Administrators should not protect or unprotect a page to further their own position in a content dispute."). T. Canens (talk) 07:20, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Taken to AfD
See the subject. -- Eraserhead1 &lt;talk&gt; 21:41, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Hey, just per your (very polite, so thank you) request: It doesn't take an army of sources to know that an enormously popular product by one of the largest computer companies in history is notable. It's just common sense from my perspective. Steven Walling 03:57, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

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The Signpost: 6 June 2011
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Apple store news
Hello, sorry if I made an error but I had no intention to disrupt Wikipedia. I am not sure where in WP:POINT does it say "start with an article and find information, but not the other way around". Should users not attempt to incorporate current information from the media into articles unless they were already seeking information to add to an existent article? I posted the information in the discussion pages because it appeared on the newspaper's front page, so I thought some readers might find it relevant to Apple. The information was about Apple and iPhone, so I sought feedback in those articles. Would you have preferred that I obtain feedback via some other method, or that I post in one page only? You did not specify why you felt the news article was not notable for inclusion. I'm now aware that there are the articles Apple Store and Criticism of Apple Inc. which might be relevant articles. Would you consider it disruptive to ask for feedback in such articles' discussion page? Thanks. Shawnc (talk) 04:57, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply. I understand your concern and appreciate your admission that it was just your personal guideline and not official policy. If I may make an observation, I feel that in the future, other users will appreciate it more if you can help them distinguish, at the outset, between your opinion and community concensus regarding guidelines and policies. As an iPhone user myself, I consider it important that we don't automatically dismiss criticism regarding our favorite companies. Thanks for the feedback! Shawnc (talk) 06:20, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Portal 2
I've responded on my talk page. Quinxorin (talk) 05:13, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Suggestion for WikiProject United States to support WikiProject US Presidents
It was recently suggested that WikiProject US Presidents might be inactive or semiactive and it might be beneficial to include it in the list of projects supported by WikiProject United States. I have started a discussion on the projects talk page soliciting the opinions of the members of the project if this project would be interested in being supported by WikiProject United States. Please feel free to comment on your opinions about this suggestion. --Kumioko (talk) 02:30, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the quick reply. --Kumioko (talk) 13:20, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

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