User talk:HeroJoe

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Hello and welcome to Wikipedia. We appreciate encyclopedic contributions, but some of your recent contributions seem to be advertising or for promotional purposes. Wikipedia does not allow advertising in articles. For more information on this, see If you still have questions, there is a new contributor's help page, or you can write   below this message along with a question and someone will be along to answer it shortly. You may also find the following pages useful for a general introduction to Wikipedia. I hope you enjoy editing Wikipedia! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes ( ~ ); this will automatically produce your name and the date. Feel free to write a note on the bottom of my talk page if you want to get in touch with me. Again, welcome! --Dirk Beetstra T C 16:41, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
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Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, the external links you added do not comply with our guidelines for external links. Wikipedia is not a mere directory of links; nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Since Wikipedia uses nofollow tags, external links do not alter search engine rankings. If you feel the link should be added to the article, then please discuss it on the article's talk page before reinserting it. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. A link to the edit I have reverted can be found here: link. If you believe this edit should not have been reverted, please contact me. Dirk Beetstra T C 15:42, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Please do not add inappropriate external links to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a mere directory of links, nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Inappropriate links include (but are not limited to) links to personal web sites, links to web sites with which you are affiliated, and links that attract visitors to a web site or promote a product. See the external links guideline and spam policy for further explanations. Since Wikipedia uses nofollow tags, external links do not alter search engine rankings. If you feel the link should be added to the article, then please discuss it on the article's talk page before reinserting it. See the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. A link to the edit I have reverted can be found here: link. If you believe this edit should not have been reverted, please contact me. Dirk Beetstra T C 15:50, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

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The issue was not the format of the link (though mp3 is not a format that all users can listen to, something thad is mentioned in WP:EL), it was the way you were adding. You were adding the links in a way that can only be described as spam. I am sorry, but wikipedia is not a linkfarm. Therefore your link additions were reverted. Please read the pages I have pointed you to, they describe how to handle when you think the link should be added, although it most probably should not be added anyway. Hope this helps. --Dirk Beetstra T C 16:40, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Please read the header of WP:SPAM: "There are four types of wikispam: advertisements masquerading as articles, wide-scale external link spamming, bandspam (tangential references instead of disambiguation which promote some entity) and "Wikipedian-on-Wikipedian" spamming or, "canvassing" (also known as "internal spamming" and "cross-posting")." I would describe this as wide scale external link spamming.  That other links are there does not mean you can add more (see WP:NOT, it may even be the question whether the other links should be there (care to join?).  Thank you.  --Dirk Beetstra T  C 17:06, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

I suppose that my thinking is Wikipedia has always provided great information on an individual or topic. I use it quite often for research. If it can also provide me additional links to articles, videos or audio files, then I'm gaining that much more information on my research. The external links I've already found have been quite helpful in the past. If I'm getting the link from Wikipedia, then Wikipedia was my starting point for finding out the info. Even though I'm going to another outside source it was Wiki that provided it. I'm new to posting and wanting to add things to Wikipedia so I apologize for any misuse. My argument is, if it is providing real information in addition to what Wikipedia is providing why isn't that a good thing? The people interviewed are the people in the topic. They are aware that the interview is out and available for listeners to hear. Thanks. HeroJoe 17:46, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
 * The thing is, we are writing an encyclopedia, not a phone directory. It is better to incorporate the information from the external sources into wikipedia (and then provide a reference, see WP:CITE/WP:RS).  Hope this helps.  --Dirk Beetstra T  C 17:55, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

If we are to be fair, then all other postings of external links for interviews should be removed. I'm not sure why I'm being singled out when another link is allowed to stay that is exactly the same type of post that mine is. HeroJoe 13:34, 1 March 2007 (UTC)


 * If you read WP:EL you see indeed that a links to interviews are allowable (though, in the top of that page it already says, it is better to consider using it as a reference). So yes, your links would be allowable under that guideline.  But, you were adding them in a way that is defined under the guideline WP:SPAM, "wide-scale external link spamming", which is not allowed (your account only added links, no content).  Moreover, WP:NOT (and that is a policy), states that wikipedia is not a "Mere collections of external links or Internet directories. There is nothing wrong with adding one or more useful content-relevant links to an article; however, excessive lists can dwarf articles and detract from the purpose of Wikipedia." (alternatives are described in WP:EL).  WP:EL gives an alternative, discuss the external links on the talkpages, and try to find consensus.  Just don't spam them (under the wikipedia definition)
 * Bottomline, if you have 30 minutes to add content to one article, and use your data as a source, that would be very helpfull. I am sure that will be appreciated more than only adding links, and I think it gives more credit to your articles and writers than just 10 external links.  Hope this helps.  --Dirk Beetstra T  C 14:18, 1 March 2007 (UTC)