User talk:Hesperian/Archive 8


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Gascoyne
In List of postcodes in Western Australia, there's an entry for Gascoyne River, separate from the Gascoyne Junction entry. I checked with Australia Post's postcode search and it does indeed show a locality called Gascoyne River.

I changed the entries but am now uncertain if I've done the right thing. Could you review plse. -- I@n 01:40, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Kangaroo paw
Hi, I noticed that Kangaroo paw confusingly discusses three species. The genus page Anigozanthos (which isn't bad) lists them all, but I would have though that all members of the genus would be commonly known as kangaroo paws due to the distinctive floral morphology. I'm not sure what to do here to clear up the confuction. Any ideas?--Peta 01:50, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Looks like this is a good place to kill the common name. I'll get back to it after lunch, unless you beat me too it.--Peta 02:04, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
 * It's all fixed now - I just made a couple of disambigs.--Peta 05:38, 3 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I fixed the map for B.brownii, on my last walk in Kings parks the kangaroo paws are going to give a good show in about a month so I'll grab some new pictures and update the one I took last year with something better. Are there any particular features that you would like to have captured. Gnangarra 05:53, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Pics
Thanks, it's awesome. I will probably have the bones of the new flora article finished tonight so expect to see it later.--Peta 05:38, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Email
Yep, some help needed :) SatuSuro 13:30, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the re-welcome message - I think my old user stuff might need some help, I havent checked! :) yet! SatuSuro 04:36, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
 * It would be really great to haul it over as long as it wasnt a problem for you :) SatuSuro 04:42, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much, I owe :) SatuSuro 04:56, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Not at all. Enjoy your new identity. Hesperian 04:58, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Callitris glaucophylla
Hi Hesperian - thanks for the note; bit of a tricky one, as other authorities (e.g. Blake 1959, Proc. Roy. Soc. Qld. 70: 33-46; Farjon 2005, Monograph of Cupressaceae and Sciadopitys; followed online by e.g. IUCN) treat it as a synonym of C. columellaris, so it is a very disputed taxon. The reasons Blake and Farjon give for lumping seem fairly convincing; conversely, the grounds for splitting given by Thompson & Johnson (Telopea 2 (6): 731-736) seem decidedly trivial ("An inland species; foliage usually glaucous" for C. glaucophylla, vs. "A coastal species; foliage usually green" for C. columellaris); Farjon points out that mixed green and glaucous seedlings can derive from a single parent tree (and your photo shows a very green tree, too!). My inclination would be to accept the merge and move the wiki page to C. columellaris, but include some discussion of the case from both sides; I'll wait to see what you think before doing anything - MPF 09:49, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks; will do. When they are treated as separate species, C. columellaris is a restricted-range east coast species (northeast NSW, southeast Qld) - MPF 14:56, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Done; let me know what you think if it needs anything extra (I've half-made a distribution map to add later) - MPF 08:51, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Response
In accordance to the sacred teaching known as Wikipedia is not for things made up in school one day, your disbelief in our religion should not have a dealing in the use of our entry. According this doctrine, "this is not an actual policy or guideline." This is not original material as this Church was founded by Our Lord Robert Smith. When he pays the money to get the website in place, we will have a large gathering of information to cite in the Wikipedia entry. However, if the Wikipedia is not available for use, we may just have to boycott citing religious bigotry.

Test. Wikipedia
It is a nightmare using test.wikipedia.org, the code need debug. I don't know my User page test moved to en Wiki. Matt86hk  talk  05:49, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

BOT - Regarding your recent protection of Jacob Clark Gump:
You recently protected this page but did not give a protection summary. If this is an actual (not deleted) article, talk, or project page, make sure that it is listed on WP:PP. VoABot will automatically list such protected pages only if there is a summary. Do not remove this notice until a day or so, otherwise it may get reposted. Thanks. VoABot 06:01, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

The Gobbles
Hesperian deleted The Gobbles.

Psephos
Morgana's issue is that the bias is covert in her eyes, and show makes it seem more obvious than it is. What about: "The site deliberately ignores the elections of the Communist State Cuba owing to the beliefs of the owner. It does not claim to be politically neutral." Does that work for you?

--Wslack (talk) 01:57, 9 August 2006 (UTC)


 * You make complete sense, I just want Margana to stay off the talk page, so I don't want to post anything there yet. I'll work with Margana to get something for everyone. Real quick answers: 1. Its not explicit with reasoning for the non-inclusion in its denial, so Margana takes that literally as a lie. 2. Ah, forgot about that, you are completely correct, ignores is a highly loaded POV word now that I consider it. I'll also call the elections "disputed", which I think is a fair word. 3. I'll use "discounts". Thanks. I won't bother you here again. Once I've got something that I think will work I'll put it on the talk page. --Wslack (talk) 02:46, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Alf Bussell not Alf Bussell
Like an escher print - the recent alf bussell I am not sure where on the net would be anything, as I am pretty sure he never gained office SatuSuro 01:02, 10 August 2006 (UTC)


 * As for some other items, I owe you for your diligence, thank you - and thank you for your work on chippers! It is very much appreciated. SatuSuro 10:15, 10 August 2006 (UTC)


 * There are about three or more rocks in wa that we can do something as well I think! Also, I think we need to get a template/standardisation for country regional centres, as albany, geraldton and bunbury, kalgoorlie and experance need standardisation in cf with our mate in 'bus' and vice versa.SatuSuro 12:05, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

re: User:Kazvorpal
You might want to post your answer to him on his own talk page. It's much less likely to get noticed as is. Circeus 01:43, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Standardisation
I suppose the way to do it would be to give a thorough list of recommended topics in a recommended order,


 * I think there should be a template/guide with some items as essential/ other optional (maybe we should trawling other states to see what they do)

then let editors pick and choose what is relevant to their article. Something like:(where not essential but optional no comment)


 * Location (essential)
 * Region (essential)


 * History (essential)
 * Natural history
 * Geology
 * Climate (essential)
 * Flora
 * Fauna
 * Government
 * Demographics
 * Population
 * Social conditions
 * Education
 * Culture
 * Arts
 * Science
 * Recreation
 * Sport
 * Health
 * Welfare
 * Law and order
 * Industrial conditions
 * Wages
 * Employment
 * Prices
 * Finance
 * Land administration
 * Land settlement
 * Water supply
 * Sewerage
 * Industry
 * (essential to identify main for location or region)


 * Infrastructure
 * Transport
 * Communications
 * Primary production
 * Mining
 * Manufacturing
 * Trade
 * Tourism
 * Places of interest
 * Events


 * Problem is (a) what other states do (no need to reinvent wheel)
 * (b) where to discuss this with others if there is insuff in other states

sigh, it feels like place names all over again :) SatuSuro 12:42, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Rocks
''Other rocks? The Pinnacles spring to mind, and perhaps some of the Pleistocene cliffs along the river. Maybe a few historic quarries. What else?'' theyre all pebbles!

Kokerbin Rock (30 km south Kellerberrin)reputed to be Oz's third largest monolith and Mount Augustus the real stuff! SatuSuro 02:06, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Yellowdine near coolgardie, Wilga mia near cue, Pinnacles(Nambung National Park), Wave rock, Bruce rock,

Bald Rock too...Cas Liber 02:07, 12 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Thinking about it over the last couple of days, I think that we should be more scientific first: - something like 'Monoliths' - qualifier with rock sorts - 'granite'

or otherwise, then 'Rock Outcrops ' - 'granite' then 'other', 'Rock Formations' - unfortunately my geological training was a long time ago, and I havent kept up with it. :) SatuSuro 04:19, 12 August 2006 (UTC)


 * IMHO a very good start is the Mount Augustus National Park entry, then http://www.brucerock.wa.gov.au/tourism_and_events/kokerbin_rock.html SatuSuro 04:24, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Apologies for clogging your talk with my think alouds again - have resolved the issue for the moment with Granite outcrops of Western Australia with an important link to the Goldfields Water Supply Scheme and Bayly's book and Hunts wells. Hope it makes sense ! :)  SatuSuro 06:32, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Hi Hesperian. Thanks for that. Looks like my instinctive reaction to that swastika addition to User_talk:DakotaKahn lead to me to do a block which hit DakotaKahn and not the IP address - looks like Freakofnurture gave me a souvenir to my block log for my troubles. :( .Blnguyen | rant-line 03:00, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Otherpeople
I have replied on my talk: see User_talk:BrownHairedGirl. --BrownHairedGirl 15:36, 11 August 2006 (UTC)--BrownHairedGirl 15:36, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Please
Could you put Cape Barren Island, Tasmania on your watch list, thanks :) SatuSuro 15:19, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

James Waterson Johnston in Ex-convict school teachers in Western Australia.
Your Message to Karipatta Why do you keep changing the entry for James Waterson Johnston in Ex-convict school teachers in Western Australia. I checked into this after your first (anonymous) edit, and the references clearly support my version. Please provide a reference for your change or leave the article alone. Hesperian 02:37, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

My Response: I am related to James Waterson Johnston Ex-convict school teachers in Western Australia He is Convict Number 5793. I have researched the records extensively over a period of 16 years.

I have edited the entry because the details given are incorrect and confuse the Ex-convict teacher James Johnston with another convict of the same name.I have a copy of the trial of James Waterson Johnston's trial - Ref: Scottish record Office Reference: JC4/64 He was sentenced to 10 years transportation, for robbery (NOT rape), in 1858.

You claim he was sentenced to eight years' penal servitude for rape in 1865. The Superintendent Order Books (AN 358, Acc 1156, SO7), held in the Battye Library Archives, clearly state on page 451 that James Johnston, Convict 5793, lithographer (lithographic printer), was received in the colony on February 15th 1861. Page 472 clearly states convict Number 5793, James Johnston lithographer, was transferred to Champion Bay (Geraldton/Dongara area) per schooner Favourite, on March 28, 1861. Note: This is four years before James Johnston, rapist, was sentenced and transported to the colony in the Norwood.

The other details I have changed are also correct (ie date of arrival, convict ship, years of teaching at Dongara, etc): References include: Battye Library: R Series 4 Accession 1156 Battye Library: Acc 128/38 Battye Library: Acc1914 p.25 Battye Library: R Series 21B Acc 1156 Rikkers, J: Western Australian Schools 1830-1980 / John Rikkers, (1984)- Western Australian Schools 1830-1980 / John Rikkers, (1984) Erickson, Rica and O'Mara, Gillian. The Bicentennial dictionary of Western Australians. V. 9. Convicts in Western Australia, 1850-1887. Nedlands, W.A. : University of Western Australia, 1987-[1997]. ISBN 1875560440. [Revision of Dictionary of Western Australians Vol. 2 Bond 1850-1868. Alphabetical listing of convicts and short biography of each]

I am also confident that Rica Erikson, in her book The Brand on His Coat, does not identify the ex-convict teacher as the James Johnston who arrived on the Norwood. I will confirm this when I have a chance to view the book again.

Sorry I edited anonymously - it was unintentional as this is the first time I have attempted to edit Wikipedia.

Karipatta Karipatta 05:25, 13 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the trouble you have taken to correct the referencing associated with James Johnson (as opposed to my amateur attempt!).
 * Karipatta 07:23, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Just browsing edit history on AN/I
It's bare; http://en.wikipedia.org/ auto-adds a link. HTH! ~ PseudoSudo 05:15, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Floriculture
I think we should merge the cut flower stuff into the floriculture article since they distinction is really only on the basis of terminology and floriculture covers port harvest stuff too.--Peta 05:54, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Swan River Colony
I think Gnangarra and my paths may have crossed over and confusion has slipped in. Nveer mind, its done. Send my regards to the those oldtime editors if you ever see them around. -- I@n 06:27, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
 * My botch up. We're probably overarchived now but I don't think it matters too much.  -- I@n 06:33, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Some new images
I photographed this lot in Kings park today Commons user gallery take a look, There a couple that are in need of ID. Gnangarra 10:40, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the help with ID's --Gnangarra 13:47, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Geese
Very impressed by your magnificent work on the islands. Can only find this so far :)  Best to see the talk to see what I mean SatuSuro 13:54, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Coords
If you ever need quick and dirty geographical coordinates, try this. The coordinates change as you move your mouse over the map. And you get to watch the rain at the same time.:) -- I@n 03:23, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks, reply will be offline shortly. Hesperian 04:19, 15 August 2006 (UTC)


 * To me that would be the ultimate wiki editor meetup location - the geographic Names old card index - its a tight fit and difficult to access but it would be the ultimate when it comes to sorting out some hairy name issues for wa :) SatuSuro 06:47, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

DYK
Got Rose fruited banksia on DYK....Cas Liber 08:05, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Rocks
Wow! what geographically defined item are you gonna list next :) ? Will put a see also for the Granite rocks of Western Australia somewhere. SatuSuro 13:10, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Comic Relief
Our mate 'f---oid....' was a bit concerned about this one:

''Mount Isa City Council has jurisdiction over the largest city in the World, Mount Isa, which is a mining city and major service centre for North West Queensland.

Located 1829 kilometres from Brisbane, 883 kilometres from Townsville and 356 metres above sea level, Mount Isa, the "Oasis of the Outback", is a thriving community of approximately 23,000 residents.

Mount Isa City Council welcomes you to explore the history of the city, its outstanding tourist facilities such as the Riversleigh Fossil Centre and the business investment opportunities Mount Isa and its surrounding district provides.''

Complete and utter similar to kalgoorlie, and this stuff above is on the linked council website -- a good giggle, and its also been put in the list of cities by surface area. SatuSuro 13:37, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Blocking
Your recent blocking of the user Bpazolli, a good friend of mine, was most insincere. The period of punishment was also severe for such minor infringements. Given that he is a gentlemen and protector of The Crown, this is quite an insult. He is also one of the few people dedicated to reforming wikipaedia and removing the vile filth that it currently contains. Please be more careful when blocking in the future.

P.S. Please do not block me as a sockpuppet of BPazolli. It has happened to me before, even when my user was created before the person's in question. I find it frustrating, annoying and rude. Thankyou.

GOD SAVE THE QUEEN

Lord Protector 11:57, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi Hesperian. I noted that Bpazolli posted the contents of his failed RfA on his userpage, with his own commentary, in which he labels User:Aksi great a terrorist. So I took the liberty of extending the block indefinitely, as I can't see anything remotely serious about his article contribs or his debating on AfDs. I also blocked the above gentleman. From his contribs he can only he a scok, a meatpuppet real-life friend from high school or a spoofer. Thanks, Blnguyen | rant-line 01:24, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Psephos
Hello Hesperian. I can't really see what I could do there to be honest. Adam is much more thick-skinned than us and I think he'll be able to hold the fort. I have stuck it on my watchlist though. There are a few people who keep on trying to use examples of communist elections, where only communist candidates and "approved independents" are allowed, as "real elections" like at that Elections in Cuba article. I have put it on my watchlist though. Thanks Blnguyen | rant-line 03:06, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Shipwrecks of Western Australia
Just a courtesy call to let you know that I restored this article (deleted by you as db-nocontent) and added some more content to it. It's an important topic to us Western Australians, and I expect it will grow into a really great article in time. Hesperian 23:32, 16 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, I am aware of shipwrecks such as the Batavia. The author stated on the Talk page that the article had accidentally gone live before content had been added, hence the db-nocontent tag.   (aeropagitica)    (talk)   04:42, 17 August 2006 (UTC)


 * My apologies, I had put it up, and with my diverse distractions, hadnt put enough in it - I remember ambi/rebecca with my west coast tasmania mountains when I started - I used to put up stubs with nothing in them.. Thank god I now know what yo do with sandboxes. I bit slow I suppose  :)  SatuSuro 11:04, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Further Requests
Caves SatuSuro 10:42, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
 * You have email SatuSuro 10:49, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Caves
Magnificent
 * Maybe Bays/Gulfs/Archipelagos  next one :) ? :0  SatuSuro 12:06, 17 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Maybe Capes/Points/Headlands/Peninsulas is an alternative to look at as well (skipping from your last question :)) SatuSuro 12:33, 17 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Anchorage Port Harbour is a good one -but I strongly suspect that some historical ones might not be in gazzetteers ? SatuSuro 12:51, 17 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Ethically, if the speleos dont want people to know - nor should we! I could give you chapter and verse on why some sites (rocks, caves etc) simply dont get identified on maps, it was an issue in my post grad fieldwork in Java. Some places do not end up on lists for good reasons! SatuSuro 00:42, 18 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Exactly the same as the surfers - they have names for breaks in the leeuwin naturaliste area that they have exactly the same heirarchy - funny that :) SatuSuro 01:09, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

How did you?
The geography list articles you're wokring on look great, was there an easy way to get the data from the Gazette?--Peta 00:46, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Neat. I think I will start off with watercourses of the ACT. Is there something like mountains and hills for the same area? How do we go about transferring the data, email or should I make a page in my sandbox?--Peta 01:04, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Re mountains and hills, just include anything high-up and I will decide what I think should be included.--Peta 01:16, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I can't think of anything, I like the long and lat as is. --Peta 05:00, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Neat. I looks like there are two or three points for a number of them, mabye they are coords for the start and end?--Peta 09:14, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
 * No idea about the branches, I thank I'll have to so have a look at a fine scale map. If you've got the mountains ready, just stick them in the sandbox too, I'll probably work on it tomorrow once I get a map. --Peta 11:57, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Sounds excellent, I will leave it alone til later and get back to the lab.--Peta 04:51, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Maru
I just unblocked him and are in the throes of posting a note at AN/I. -- I@n 00:54, 18 August 2006 (UTC)


 * John Forrest rvv just I did (keeping up with Ians grammare for this section :) ) might be worth looking at repeat fender. SatuSuro 02:11, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

I dunno. One side or the other is being silly, and I can't quite figure which side is which yet (sorry! :-/). Zscout is watching carefully, and I'll leave it in his capable hands. If maru misbehaves, we'll soon find out, and I'd certainly support a community ban if he does. :-) Kim Bruning 02:52, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for taking that up. I'd noticed the User:Rhwawn thing at what must have been about the same time as you but had to race out to a dentist appointment, thinking that I'd deal with it on my return. -- I@n 03:04, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I am aghast at the leniency being dished out. -- I@n 03:05, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Hmmm. Famous last words -- I@n 03:10, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

User:Rhwawn
Should this have a sockpuppet notice? -- I@n 13:29, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Ignore this question, I've added it. -- I@n 13:35, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Banksia brownii
I case you missed it Raul has promoted Banksia brownii to FA. well done Gnangarra 00:14, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Fremantle prison Riot
Hi Hesperian I created the page Fremantle prison Riot but messed up the capitilization in the title, not quite sure how to fix it without losing the history. Your edits and coment are most welocome. Ghostieguide 05:24, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks for your kind comments on WP:ANI! I don't think that there are too many problems on WP that cannot be solved by some informed discussion, rather than hasty action. Vandalism aside, maybe.

But over and over I see people getting stuck into each other over the most ridiculous trivia. I'm prone to this myself, and I try to recognise it in myself and try to defuse it in others. If I ever start getting red in the face and shouting at my fellow editors over whether it's wikilink or wiki-link or wiki-link, just throw a bucket of cold water over me, OK? --06:16, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

My Email
You requested my email on my ip address, here it is, bpazolli@gmail.com. I look forward to hearing from you.

is this an add or an article
This article was added to list of perth landmarks, What do you think --Gnangarra 05:36, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Thats the problem, I've spent more than a few staurday mornings chasing vinyl in the old store. But does it warrant an article? this one just reads like an advert. --Gnangarra 05:49, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
 * AfD was what i was thinking but wanted another opinion first, I've read the reference, needs something strong then 78's webpage and I'll see if I can clean the article up in the next day or so otherwise I'll nominate it. Gnangarra 06:00, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
 * fiwereyou I'd ask SatuSuro; he has expressed an interest in the history of the Perth music scene at times. Hesperian 06:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I have already left a message so I'll wait for a response from him first Gnangarra 06:04, 22 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Without even looking at it, no commercial enterprise is a landmark full stop kill it if it has. Boans was for 30's until 60's... but that was a big dept store.

I used to know the original owner. :) SatuSuro 08:17, 22 August 2006 (UTC)


 * It needs to be part of a larger article, I wouldnt afd it - 'List of music outlets in perth' over the last 8 decades, it would constitute part of a larger art but it will take me nothing short of year to put it together :) SatuSuro 09:00, 22 August 2006 (UTC)


 * AS for previous caller, did you get my email :( ? SatuSuro 09:36, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Busy
busy Just for today. Hesperian 02:07, 23 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Good work with your conlationes at la:wikisource. I presume there was a bit more to it than a straight copy-paste, so my estimation of you has gone up a few more notches.  -- I@n 02:29, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

RfAr
I've added my statement and have checked evidence. With heavy heart, I'm OK to proceed when you are. -- I@n 09:55, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Of course - feel free. I think its going to be easier for others to follow.  I don't want to overload it with too much detail though. -- I@n 13:01, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Do as you see fit. -- I@n 13:45, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

User:Hesperian/Templates/Person
Interesting template. Unfortunately it is showing up in the categories Category:Year of birth missing and Category:Year of death missing. As it is quite complex (you appear to be something of a template expert) I did not want to touch it. Would appreciate it if you could edit it so that it will stay out of the main namespace categories. Thanks! --Pascal666 14:44, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Just something I sometimes use to start biography articles in my sandbox, to ensure I don't forget forgettable things like PersonData. I've bracketted the template with includeonly tags; that appears to have solved the problem. Thanks for pointing that out. Hesperian 23:55, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I hope those tags don't screw up your subst.  On an unrelated note, do you know of any way in a template to move the last name before the first?  For example, get "Doe, John P." from an article named "John P. Doe"?  Thanks!  --Pascal666 03:41, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

FARC
Hi, I wonder whether you'd lend us your experience in nation articles WRT the decision as to whether to FARC Cambodia? Tony 04:28, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

seeds
Nice to hear your planting some seeds, I'll have some B.ashbyii seeds by the end of the week if your interested. Gnangarra 13:04, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Banksia aemula in Perth?? Would be interesting if it was. I can't imagine it being used in amenities planting over there. Where was the tree?Cas Liber 20:49, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Requests for comment/Margana
Just letting you know i've filed a RfC. PMA 13:46, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

It's my first RfC so could you set up the page layout

Requests for arbitration/Marudubshinki
Hello,

An Arbitration case involving you has been opened: Requests for arbitration/Marudubshinki. Please add evidence to the evidence sub-page, Requests for arbitration/Marudubshinki/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Requests for arbitration/Marudubshinki/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, --Tony Sidaway 10:53, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Monday 28th August
At 7.30 am on news radio this morning! What a way to be driving Great Eastern Highway, and this comes on! ---extracted from News Radio website--- Presented by Kel Richards Can you imagine "snotty gobble" as "a well recognised delicacy"? Well, that's how they're described by the distinguished Australian writer Flora Eldershaw (1897-1956)... Is this expression "poetry, Ogden Nash, Monty Python and Dr Seuss rolled into one"? The expression "snotty gobble" does sound pretty revolting, but it turns out to be the name for several native shrubs (or trees) of the genus Persoonia. As variations the "snotty gobble" fruit was also known (sometimes) as "snotty gollion" or "snotty goblin". Not a great improvement, really. The name is first recorded from 1854. And, in case you're wondering, "snotty gobble" is described in one quotation I came across as "red berries". And, it seems, the tree that grew the berries had another use: its red-coloured inner bark could be used to produce a dye that colonial ladies used to dye straw hats a "vivid and lasting red". Professor Roly Sussex describes the name "snotty gobble" as "poetry, Ogden Nash, Monty Python and Dr Seuss rolled into one." Well, perhaps, Roly… perhaps. ---end of extract--- SatuSuro 02:02, 28 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I think I need to get back to real life quick.But hearing your name come out of the radio from the meliffluous tones of kel richards made the day! SatuSuro 06:04, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Looks like Safety Bay might need a gentle look as well SatuSuro 06:43, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Denny King
Oops I think you meant to send that to someone else - I aint no banksia person SatuSuro 01:46, 29 August 2006 (UTC) My sincerest apologies - he's part of the south west coast mythology - and very much a notable person. I realise that he's done the west coast but we always had him as a south west person - port davey and the harbour on the south coast - its a long walk from macquarie harbour I can tell you. Oops again SatuSuro 02:03, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Thank you

 * Thanks for responding to my note on AWNB. I didn't want to go on arguing the toss and responding to his points.  Another opinion is always useful--Arktos talk 02:23, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Epica
B is fine, I'll dyk later today Gnangarra 00:49, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Reverting
Thanks for that. It prompted me to cleanup all those old userspace redirects anyway. -- I@n 00:58, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
 * ...your user page's whatlinkshere will now start to become a list of where people are talking about you, rather than where you've been talking... I had to read that a couple of times to get the drift, but agree.  Thats good lateral thinking. -- I@n 01:17, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Edit summary: typo; no wonder you had to read it three times. No, that was not the problem. The problem was my grey matter. -- I@n 02:23, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Can someone either do that for me or explain that to me, I'm a bit slow this thursday SatuSuro 01:29, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

AFL
Could you look at my comment in Wikipedia talk:WikiProject AFL -- I@n 01:24, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, I've been having a bit of a play with Inkscape recently and doing this as a svg vector file would probably be the smart thing to do. -- I@n 01:59, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Perth
I must be very slow today - the Perth DAB page has been 'done' this AM and it looks wrong! Anyone agree? SatuSuro 01:38, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

BTW thanks for the sig info SatuSuro 02:09, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Caves
Put my 2 bob in SatuSuro 01:07, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

commons
See you where hiding over there today organising all the banksia stuff. Gnangarra 10:36, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
 * thats the way I thought you were going but with both I was wondering, i prefer cats but articles are with galleries are fairly common. ;-) Gnangarra 13:49, 1 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I formatted banksia brownii to the format it works fine with a redirect on the article page. --Gnangarra 04:52, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

DYK
Nice one! --Srikeit (Talk 18:18, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Wikibreak
wikibreak I expect to have very little access to Wikipedia between now and Friday. Hesperian 12:25, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
 * After your efforts over the couple of days will a week be a long enough break? -- enjoy your self --Gnangarra 13:10, 2 September 2006 (UTC)


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