User talk:HiLo48/Archive 2

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Melbourne population
Hello HiLo

Before you revert my edits, please look at my explanation in the edit summary. Also please check the source. I changed it because the information was not supported by the cited source in the info box and the body of the article. It doesn't matter that someone put in icorrect information with a notice not to change this incorrect information. All information must be properly sourced and be supported by the sourced document. Thank you. Aemilius Adolphin (talk) 04:38, 2 April 2023 (UTC)


 * @Aemilius Adolphin With that message in the article, you probably should have put something on the Talk page first. To my mind, your Edit summary didn't justify the change. HiLo48 (talk) 05:02, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

Question about cookies
Hey so I thought at first when I got the intro message from Wikipedia that it was automated only to realize it was from a real user. So how does it work, is their a team of you guys sending the messages, is it automated somehow, how do you find new users, etc? Also I noticed that on my mentors talk page that they had the message but that it came much later after they made the account and had already made many edits and was worded to acknowledge that fact, so how did they get the message later, can you only reach so many people, did you guys only start doing this recently? Also thanks for the cookies. Wik206 (talk) 00:25, 20 April 2023 (UTC)


 * (WP:Talk page stalker) Hey @Wik206! I'm not exactly sure how HiLo does it, but I use WP:Twinkle. When viewing the edits of someone who hasn't been welcomed, then there will be a [Welcome] button to press. Once you do, you will be redirected to their page where you can select a welcome message, such as the cookie one! You could also do it directly from their drop down menu on their talk page. I hope this helped! Cheers! Fakescientist8000 15:10, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

3DB
Regarding the Minstrels section of the 3DB page, I am making a compromise by deleting the link, but retaining the rest of the last relevant paragraph.

I certainly hope that you are comfortable with the compromise.

With best wishes: Albert Isaacs (talk) 03:08, 10 May 2023 (UTC)


 * No. The commentary doesn't belong in the article at all. It simply platitudes, and not about the radio station at all. And please take this discussion to the article's Talk page, as I requested, so that others might see it. HiLo48 (talk) 03:23, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

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Wait, so does that mean you think that wikipedia should always use British spelling, which actually, for the most part, makes a lot less sense than the American spelling? Troopersho (talk) 18:17, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
 * No, I don't think that at all. Had you told me what article you are concerned about, I could probably have explained to you whatever apparent spelling correction you are concerned about, but you didn't, so I can't. HiLo48 (talk) 21:29, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm not concerned about any article thank you. I hope you do well in all your endeavours goodb ye Troopersho (talk) 03:46, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Troopersho - To help you better understand our spelling conventions here, I recommend a look at MOS:ENGVAR. HiLo48 (talk) 03:56, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I just misinterpreted something you wrote on your page. goodb ye Troopersho (talk) 04:01, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

ITN/C
If you want my honest, true advice, mark this as "blurb under discussion", since technically you did begin the discussion of the blurb, in order to drive up the discussion, because screaming in uppercase letters does not work 99 percent of the time. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 12:46, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Fake - Actually, it almost always works, just as it did on this occasion. Note, YOU are the only one talking about a blurb. I didn't. HiLo48 (talk) 21:26, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
 * We all know what you meant, my friend. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 21:28, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't think YOU do. I DID NOT want a blurb for Booth. Brown shouldn't have got one either. Archie Roach should have though, but I knew it wasn't worth nominating him in that cesspit of US-centrism. HiLo48 (talk) 21:33, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

Help
I don’t know if I’m in trouble, but a user seems to be upset at me because I added a category to a blp and they believe that I’m doing it out of an emotional reason.

The article in question is Nick Fuentes. I added the category of “neo-Nazis”, and I was reprimanded by a user. I attempted to explain myself by stating that Fuentes’s statements, actions, and group associations justify him being in the category.

When I made a discussion on the talk page of the article, it was removed. Firekong1 (talk) 19:20, 3 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Firekong1 - Wow. Mr Acroterion is certainly determined to keep that category off Fuentes' page. I really can't see why. Given the other categories he is already listed as part of, "neo-Nazi" is hardly a significant addition. Personally, I would withdraw from the fight for the moment, for two reasons. One is what I have just written. It makes little difference to Fuentes' image whether he is labelled with that category or not. The other is the aggression coming at you from that other editor. I can't explain it. It doesn't seem rational. But it's also not likely to go away any time soon. Give it a few months. See how the article evolves. See what other editors do. Time often allows common sense to prevail on Wikipedia. Good luck. HiLo48 (talk) 22:37, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Sure thing, thank you. Although I would state that adding the category for “neo-nazis” to his pa he wouldn’t be invalid.
 * Also, he threatened to block me, so I backed off and am avoiding editing any blp articles for the time being. Firekong1 (talk) 23:09, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * As I said, I couldn't see anything wrong with your addition, but yes, leave Fuentes alone for now. I can't see why you can't tackle other BLP articles though. HiLo48 (talk) 23:21, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Of course, will do. But when it’s allowed, I will add the category of neo-nazis someday. Firekong1 (talk) 23:40, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

One more thing
I also had some trouble with another editor named bhagyamani because I was adding common names to pages of animals such as the bush elephant and the european marten, and I even had some sources where these common names were used. Yet, they removed it and refused to listen to what I had to say. I still think the common names should be on those pages and I'll add them there someday when the time is right. Firekong1 (talk) 01:21, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

Always precious
Ten years ago, you were found precious. That's what you are, always. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:32, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

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Ben Roberts-Smith
Hi, I've started an RfC on the talkpage of Ben Roberts-Smith that may be of interest to you. AlanStalk 09:28, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

WikiProject Scouting Newsletter: July 2023
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ANI
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. JeffSpaceman (talk) 12:39, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Looks like the parochial Americans are annoyed that you're defending the idea a respected athlete is not less prominent than a disgraced newsreader. Simonm223 (talk) 14:42, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

I appreciate from your user page that you have strong views on civility, Americans, abusive administrators, and any number of related topics, so please accept this advice in the spirit in which it was given by a non-parochial American administrator who hasn't been unfrocked yet. Calling the nominator a "parochial American" did nothing to improve the discussion and simply made you a target. This isn't a game, not even cricket, we don't get to tally up the points we score off other people. Please consider this going forward. Best, Mackensen (talk) 15:45, 4 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Mackensen: Some thoughts.... Sports supporters (and haters) can be very irrational. They can talk about sports they know nothing about, or don't like, in the most irrational ways. On many occasions I have defended the all-American sport of baseball against the idiotic criticisms of British fans who insist it's nothing more than their children's game of rounders. I am a rare animal, an Australian who knows a lot about both baseball and cricket. (I like most sports, but will admit to not understanding American football yet.) I also know who the American commentator Bill Reilly is, and why he is important. Only a few days ago a proposal to declare the insect called a cricket to be more import than the sport of the same name was defeated. It seemed quite apparent to me that the proposer and handful of supporters of the proposal were Americans (and one Canadian) who knew close to nothing about the sport. What was worse, and what also happened in the thread that drew you here, was a seeming refusal among some to learn more about the sport even DURING the discussion. The issue under discussion in the thread that brought you here has, as was explained several times there, been done to death several times before. Having that fact pointed out seemed to make little difference at all to the attitudes of some of the supporter. I saw an example of the modern trend of people believing their opinion is important, even on matters they know very little about. I saw, in an informed way, both sides of a discussion, one on which those who knew almost nothing about the other side had fixed opinions. Funnily enough, I get rather sick of that sort of bullshit. HiLo48 (talk) 07:49, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

Civility restriction
Per the discussion at ANI, The community authorizes an indefinite civility restriction for you. If you make any edits which are judged by an administrator to be uncivil, personal attacks, or assumptions of bad faith, then you may be blocked for a short time up to one week, and up to an indefinite duration for repeat offenses. Blocks resulting from this restriction can only be appealed to the blocking administrator or the community, where community consensus takes precedence. The civility restriction can be appealed to the community after one year since the restriction was imposed or the last enforcement action (whichever is later), and each year thereafter. RickinBaltimore (talk) 12:16, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

Answering question posed on "ignorant"
Answering your question posed to me (in the now deleted thread) on "ignorant", in the US it is pretty well always an insult / pejorative. IMO the rare exceptions (as with any pejorative) are when referring to oneself. Sincerely,North8000 (talk) 21:30, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that. I thought as much. That is different from here. I was going to separately go to you Talk page apologising for deleting your message among all the others. It was pretty much the only one that I felt had a tone of discussion, rather than people telling me how they felt about me. But it was late at night, and I needed my sleep. HiLo48 (talk) 23:08, 6 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Can I suggest to everyone to please let this matter drop? The community sanctions are in place, and I believe that HiLo48 will abide by them in due course. Further commenting here is only going to inflame the situation. RickinBaltimore (talk) 22:06, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Martin Bryant mass murderer
Hi HiLo48, You reverted my edit expressing the opinion that it was “not needed”. The article, as you have reverted it, states Bryant “is a convicted Australian mass shooter” but (beside the expression referring to being “a convicted Australian”) there has never been any such offence of “mass shooter” and the statement is therefore nonsense. Bryant is an Australian who was convicted of a mass of murders for an incident of mass murder. Further, “mass shooter” linked to an article on mass shootings rather than mass shooter and that article made it very apparent that even that term is undefined and much of that article is about the lack of agreed definition and varied usage. Improvement was “needed”. Regards,115.42.0.84 (talk) 14:42, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but your two word Edit summary told us nothing. It implied to me that you were making a pointy change. Your new Edit summary is better, but with such a well established article, you should probably have gone to the article's Talk page first and proposed your changes there. HiLo48 (talk) 22:55, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

A Belated Thank You
Hi! I edit on here pretty infrequently, so I only just realised that you sent me a welcome message when I first signed up (about 2 years ago). I just wanted to say a belated thank you!

Also, I took a look at your user page, and as a fellow Australian I definitely empathise with your frustration at (SOME) Americans who like to Americanise every part of the internet (despite it being an international forum). I also copied a few of your userboxes... Anyway, 0takeout0 (talk) 08:30, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

Accommodation or Accommodations?
Hi, You reverted my edit in which I changed accommodations to accommodation. I now realise that the use of accommodations wasn't a typo, but it is the wrong word.

Accommodations means temporary lodgings, usually hotels or board and lodging – or it can mean accommodation in the plural. Neither applies in this case, in which Otto Frank was looking for one apartment. For this, the word accommodation is the correct one. MarcuH (talk) 11:55, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

Notice of Arbitration Enforcement noticeboard discussion
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a report involving you at Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement regarding a possible violation of an Arbitration Committee decision. The thread is Australian Indigenous Voice referendum. Thank you. QLDer in NSW (talk) 04:40, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 * QLDer in NSW - I cannot see my name mentioned anywhere there. HiLo48 (talk) 04:47, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Closed as premature: . Mitch Ames (talk) 05:15, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Mitch Ames - Thanks for the update. HiLo48 (talk) 05:32, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it wasn't an enforcement request – it was a request for a full case. And what said. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 06:37, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

Why
dont revert my edit. Tell me what citation I should add. Maggie is definitely and should be a nickname for the club. His daughter is named magie and that's the coaches daughter. It has relation to the club. New nickname. Can we talk this through? FlagPies23 (talk) 08:16, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I've copied this to Talk:Collingwood Football Club to encourage discussion there. HiLo48 (talk) 09:08, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the warm welcome!
Hey HiLo48, I saw that you sent me a welcome message and I just wanted to come and say thank you! I took a brief scroll through your user page and saw that we had a lot of shared interests, at least according to the Honorifics section at the bottom. Hopefully, as I get more involved here, I'll run into you again on some topic relating to Permaculture, Camping, Math, or Religious-Anthro. That being said, from the look of it, your take on prepositions is something I cannot stand for.

Thanks again for the welcome message, and Happy (belated for you, at this point) Halloween!

-KJGinger (talk) 01:50, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

Inline messages Table
Hi, hope you don't mind, but I thought it might be useful to change the title of your very useful Inline messages table to "Inline Citations". I was going to be cheeky enough to edit it myself, but Wikipedia won't allow me to do so, because I prefer not to register.

BTW, I came to your talk page in response to seeing your welcome to me a couple of years ago, regarding my edits on the 2020 Olympics (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:95.145.205.179&diff=cur) 95.145.86.121 (talk) 15:08, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

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(page does not exist)
Hi Hi lo My automatic signature which is in red is SueoftheAntipodes but when I hover my mouse over it it says 'page does not exist'. What does that mean? Perhaps that is the reason nobody replies to my questions about revising the page on Nick Kyrgios? It is in need of major changes and edits but no volunteers seems to be willing to do anything or discuss anything. How do I make my page exist? ! Thanks.SueoftheAntipodes (talk) 23:40, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
 * SueoftheAntipodes - The message "page does not exist" simply means that nothing has been written on that page yet. You can easily fix that by writing something there yourself. Typically people start off by writing a sentence or two about the areas they plan to be editing in. Just click on the red link, and go for your life. As for why nobody else has responded to your Kyrgios comments, that's just a result of the fact that we ARE all volunteers. There are no major tennis tournaments on right now, so interest is low, just as in the major media. Sometimes you have to wait a while for more responses. HiLo48 (talk) 03:32, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi, I have just received a message telling me that I will be blocked next time I write something about Nick Kyrgios because they can't believe I am not involved. Pity. He has been making some very interesting podcasts in USA for the last four weeks about mental health so I have been putting these in his 'film and tv' page. I had collected material for the racism section (which includes ethnic and other reasons for being discriminated against) but I guess they won't like that either. So It's probably goodbye. Maybe someone else can update the Kyrgios page. It's strange that nobody else seems to want to bother but when I did they get really upset? He's very high profile and wikipedia has to get it right.SueoftheAntipodes (talk) 18:29, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

thank you for the kindness.
I appreciate your invitation to join Wikipedia but I'm afraid I must refuse, I have account that I've not used in years and I don't plan to again. My actions are solely for typos, vandalism and talk pages, I am not confident in doing anything else. But still, from the bottom of my heart thank you, and I wish you a great decade, friend. 92.236.211.53 (talk) 20:46, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

Good evening
what about Wikipedia caused you to initially leave? 71.223.132.65 (talk) 12:43, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Some advice
Hello HiLo. I just wanted some advice from someone who trawls school websites at times. I attempted to add Ruby Roseman Gannon to Northcote High School's page and the citation keeps throwing up an error. I can't stare at it any longer! When you have time can you have a look? Cheers Nickm57 (talk) 09:50, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Nickm57 - Sorry, but I don't think I can help there. That style of referencing is something I have never properly mastered. Maybe you could take your question to the Wikipedia:Help desk. Good luck. HiLo48 (talk) 10:35, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Will do. Nickm57 (talk) 10:36, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

On a smaaaal detail
Hillo HiLo48! I saw you created an article on Ben (Armenian letter). There you dated it "since 405/406". However, as to my knowledge, official/best-of-human-knowledge/commonly agreed date is that all original 36 letters of Mesropian alphabet were "created" in 405. => Why put "/406"? Is there some scientific puzzle or uncertainty? If not, I will correct it.

BTW, thank you for creating the article in the first place! I am slowly making articles of the Alphabet and its letter more accurate and, where possible, informative) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gregory108 (talk • contribs) 01:16, 9 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Gregory108 - I think you may be mistaken. I didn't create that article. HiLo48 (talk) 02:51, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
 * huh... Indeed. Something weird happened: I clicked on the author-creator (Andromeda) and eventually came here=(
 * Sorry for disturbance, my mistake (somewhere)! Gregory108 (talk) 03:38, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Here is the page of the creator https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Artemis_Andromeda - and there the link via "my talk page" leads to you. Gregory108 (talk) 03:40, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

Clean road trains of the future - though not here yet
Hi HiLo48, trucks should change to cleaner fuels like electric or hydrogen, and smaller clean trucks are indeed catching on. But road trains seem to be the exception so far, with very few clean ones being used. So for the time being, road trains are almost exclusively diesel. That fact is notable, and should be included in an encyclopedia. Failing to do so merely hides the pollution. National fuel usage could be included to show scale.

It seems the Townsville hydrogen road train is not yet operating

I tried to link to WP:Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not wp;wia.

Let's keep focusing on facts, and update when necessary. Thanks from TGCP (talk) 00:45, 25 February 2024 (UTC)


 * I asked you to take this matter to the article's Talk page. Instead, you came here to discuss it, and changed the article without global discussion. This is not the place. HiLo48 (talk) 01:32, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
 * This was merely to inform you, and remind you that content must be encyclopedic. You can debate on that Talk page if you will. I see no reason to leave out basic facts, hence no reason for your deletion. TGCP (talk) 01:55, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Please stop wasting your time here, and discuss this in the correct place. HiLo48 (talk) 02:16, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

Thanks
Hi there, last August you made an edit to my Talk page pointing out the use of the quadruple ~. Just wanted to say thanks for that (and I wish I would've noticed earlier, I had assumed Wiki adds that automagically ^^) Steffens123 (talk) 21:56, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Orren Stephenson
Should editing on this page be restricted? There seem to be a queue of enthusiastic IPs wanting to add the obvious to it, and I imagine this will just continue even before a court case starts.(Of course, in time there will be a place for a page on the event itself). What do you think? Nickm57 (talk) 02:39, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I suspect such action will calm down soon. HiLo48 (talk) 03:31, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

Greetings
Hello friend. Thank you for the invite. I tried to get an account for like 10 years and was always refused on the grounds of something like "Because I don't feel like it, you little f*ing fa*got. Go s*ck your daddy's c*ck now and k*ll yourself! lol"

Sad. I have found this place is run like a mafia gang of 12 year olds on Ritalin. Luckily, many news pieces have been done about it. What is it? 6,000,0000 articles, and 95% of them are run by 6 users? Yet they advertise it like it is some egalitarian, communal sharing of knowledge.

Rather than come back here, learn to tolerate what you hate, contribute your time, maybe you should get something started exposing the problems? You could be the next Martin Luther, but for online knowledge. Many people would join you! Cheers.

-Tom B. 79.106.203.69 (talk) 11:07, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

Greeting
Thanks for the greeting, HiLo48, but I've been editing Wikipedia for about 20 years, and have always deliberately chosen to do so without an account.

Doubtless if I change my mind (which I may one day) I'll be deluged with accusations of being a sock because I'll appear "too practised for a newbie" :-). {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 51.198.186.221 (talk) 00:41, 15 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Are you aware that you will actually have more privacy when you use an account? With a tool readily available to all users, right now I can tell that you are probably located in or near Bradford in England. Other tools can narrow down IP addresses much more. HiLo48 (talk) 01:41, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Why are you tracking him down that's a bit weird mate Neanderthal4914 (talk) 04:52, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

A reminder
You are editing under a civility restriction that specifies you may not make comments assuming other editors are acting in bad faith. With that in mind, do you stand by your insinuation I am advocating for the name "Tasmania Devils" to to suit [my] obsession with nicknames? – Teratix ₵ 04:14, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I gave evidence for that position. Discuss the evidence, not me. HiLo48 (talk) 04:41, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.– Teratix ₵ 05:42, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
 * You're a smart guy, HiLo, I don't need tell you there's a way to describe the fact an editor holds a particular position without implying he is single-mindedly and irrationally bent on enforcing this position. – Teratix ₵ 07:12, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
 * So you can't actually think of a better word. I'm quite serioous. If there is one you would prefer and it makes sense, I'll use it. HiLo48 (talk) 07:17, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
 * You could say "Teratix's favoured position is to use the nicknames in Tasmania and Fremantle's cases, and he has expressed some preference to use nicknames in at least some other clubs' cases". – Teratix ₵ 07:23, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Ha ha ha. You have argued for more than that, but I shall try. HiLo48 (talk) 09:13, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

Thank you
For withdrawing the comment. We still have disagreements, but I can appreciate you have done something reasonable here. – Teratix ₵ 10:27, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

Noah's Ark
That editor is a real problem. As I'm involved in reverting in the end it might have to be ANI if they continue to get warnings. Doug Weller talk 08:30, 20 April 2024 (UTC)