User talk:HidirArdic

Hello mister can i ask you why are you changing the topic of operation murat?
The article done by the turks was made when the operation was ongoing, in april, but the ones i added was in may when the operation was already over? TRAVERA1 (talk) 05:15, 17 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Not to mention, even in the source you are adding never mentions this operation was done in order to capture murat karayılan nor that it was done in hakkari, why are you trying to show references in false ways? TRAVERA1 (talk) 05:19, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Not only that but you did the same thing on 2011 hakkari attacks, just because i used TRT as like 1 reference you removed the ENTIRE page when there were many other non-state ran sources TRAVERA1 (talk) 05:22, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
 * The name of the operation is literally Murat.
 * The sources you put are state controlled, you just can't cope with the fact that 40000 soldiers couldn't capture a single man so you make up a scenario in your head and combine multiple different sources about unrelated military operations not mentioning anything about Murat.
 * TRT is well known for lying about Turkish military operations and wars. All the sources you use in the Hakkari attack are state controlled. If you don't believe me, just google "Is [Media outlet] state controlled?". And that is your excuse to just delete entire wikipedia articles to write pro nationalistic biased propaganda.
 * There are also multiple sources showing that Semdin Sakik betrayed the PKK and gave Murat's location to the Turks and helped them during the operation. HidirArdic (talk) 14:38, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Okay but in operation murat, theres not even a SINGLE SOURCE of TRT and youre telling me that theyre state ran
 * and just because of the name of the operation doesnt mean its done to capture murat karayılan, and he wasnt even inside of turkeys borders anytime during the 90s he was always in iran or iraq.
 * The finnish report on the war in kurdistan or whatever is biased towards kurds if you havent even read the entire thing, not to mention there wasnt even a single finnish journalist there at the time, turkish journalists not apart of the state ran TRT was there however. Just because 1 source is turkish and isnt state ran doesnt mean its state ran. TRAVERA1 (talk) 19:55, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
 * And not only that for 2011 clashes, TRT is only there to add extra stuff in there, non state ran sources already show that 270 militants were killed in the followup operation and say the exact same thing. TRAVERA1 (talk) 19:56, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
 * And how do you know TRT is lying? Did you check some other kurdish ultranationalistic nonsense site and it siad "hey trkey is lying believe us" TRAVERA1 (talk) 19:57, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
 * And okay, since the 2011 clashes afterwards operations are done by trt, youre right to have (Turkish claim) there. TRAVERA1 (talk) 20:00, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
 * All you did was put a list of dead soldiers as a source, you can't even put a source that names the enemy leader or the amount of militants they had. That's not how sourcing works. Your sources don't even mention the betrayal of Şemdin Sakık. Even the way you just put "martyred" soldiers is blatant proof that you are extremely biased. Your entire article rests on 1 single article published by confirmed state controlled media without it mentioning any other sources. HidirArdic (talk) 20:26, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Oh my god, every single one of them arent even state led except TRT are you out of your mind man, fine, might aswell dont add those turkish soldiers who were martyred whilst protecting their country during operation murat, again, your only source is like a sentence of some finnish PDF which is utterly biased towards the kurds and not to mention the sources the finnish pdf used,"(Özgürlük 1999)" IS LITERALLY KURDISH BIASED, i dare you to check a few of their newspapers, i dare you come on. You cant even check your own sources man... TRAVERA1 (talk) 21:13, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes my sources dont mention şemdin sakık switching sides because the paragraph about şemdin sakık has its own source, it doesnt matter. And yes i actually ahve the amonut of PKK who were inside the triangle... Every one of them was killed as shown in the articles, the commander is unknown and idgaf about it .. TRAVERA1 (talk) 21:21, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

June 2023
Hello, I'm I dream of horses. I noticed that you made a comment on the page User talk:HidirArdic with this edit that didn't seem very civil, so I removed it. Wikipedia needs people like you and me to collaborate, so it's one of our core principles to interact with one another in a polite and respectful manner. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. I dream of horses (Contribs) (Talk) 14:29, 17 June 2023 (UTC)