User talk:Hihellohowareyou334/sandbox

Nikki's questions
Would it be okay to demonstrate the uses of contemplative psychology in the article? Would it also be acceptable to include information about Han F. De Wit in the article? It seems as though he came up with this idea, maybe we could include sources of inspiration?
 * All of that would be fine. Just make sure you cite sources to back up uses of CP. J.R. Council (talk) 07:07, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Stefan's questions
There is also a wikipedia page titled contemplative psychotherapy, with more information on the therapy aspect available, could this information be summarized in our article? Sources that don't explicitly define their psychology as "contemplative psychology" still exist with the premise of understanding the effect of religious contemplation in psychology, could these sources still be used?
 * I don't know enough about the topic to give you a good answer. My best advice is to compare the articles on contemplative psychology vs. contemplative psychotherapy. If they seem related, then you should definitely link to the other article a appropriate points in your article. And yes, you can use any sources that you feel shed light on your topic. J.R. Council (talk) 07:12, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

To Do
*Create a References section *Add information on Contemplative Psychology *Improve citation formatting *Improve overall page formatting Hihellohowareyou334 (talk) 21:41, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Add more references

StefanB92 (talk) 05:09, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Distinguish between contemplative psychotherapy and contemplative psychology
 * find a photograph for the article
 * Format page with proper headings

Hey Stefan, these are the things that I think could greatly improve the page. Since Dr. Council stated that we could use any sources that we found to be relevant, putting it all together shouldn't be too hard. I realize that the bullets are a little vague, but it seems like there's a lot of work to do with improving what's already there.Hihellohowareyou334 (talk) 21:25, 5 March 2015 (UTC) Hey Nikki, I think this is a great start you've made. I feel that much of the formatting and whatnot will come about and make sense as we go. :) StefanB92 (talk) 05:09, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Format Outline
(I'm sure this part could definitely be improved since we have our work cut out for us, I'm totally open to suggestions on how to format the page!) *Brief definition of contemplative psychology ''*Uses for contemplative psychology *Criticisms of contemplative psychology'' Hihellohowareyou334 (talk) 21:25, 5 March 2015 (UTC) StefanB92 (talk) 05:16, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Brief biography of Han F. de Wit
 * Reference section (with many more references than used within the article)
 * History and foundation of contemplative psychology
 * biography of Trungpa Rinpoche (as some sources suggest the field began with him)
 * Validity and reliability of field
 * institutions offering degrees in field

New References To Add
I haven't really got much for this section other than what I previously posted as reference. Maybe we'd be able to add more if we could find some specifically on Han F. de Wit?

I haven't got any preferences on who does which parts as long as the work is evenly divided. Let me know what you think and we can decide who gets what and then get working! Hihellohowareyou334 (talk) 21:24, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

Much of the little bit of research i've done has been via websites, so I think it would be best to speak with a librarian and see if they can offer any leads.

I guess i'm interested in the origins and the measure of reliability, but I'm unsure as to how much literature there is on either of those topics. I feel it would be best to keep up communication during our research StefanB92 (talk) 05:20, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Nice Start!
Nice start on Assignment 6, Nikki. Stefan - rather than add a new section, please edit what Nikki started to add in your contributions. Remember to sign your work. J.R. Council (talk) 21:30, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
 * What you've added makes sense. You have a good start on Assignment 7. J.R. Council (talk) 03:14, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Hey all, I went in and italicized the to-do list items that I'd like to take responsibility for. If anyone has questions or objections please let me know and we can organize the work differently. thanks! Hihellohowareyou334 (talk) 21:47, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Scoring example
I see some minor edits - added italics - and a note. I will give this 2 points. J.R. Council (talk) 03:35, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Dr. Council's comments on Assignment 7
Nikki and Stefan - there is very little to comment on here, since I don't see that you've done anything except copying the article into the sandbox. I'm surprised not to see any more progress than this. If there is something preventing you from developing this article, please let me know and I'll try to help. J.R. Council (talk) 19:53, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Better, but not ready to publish
I can see that Nikki has added a significant amount of new material, which is good. Stefan, I see nothing from you. This is still a long way from prime time. If nothing else, please do a good introductory paragraph. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Lead_section J.R. Council (talk) 04:40, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * The introduction should give an overview of the article in a paragraph. This is the most important part of the article since it comes up in a Google search listing and many people never read past that.

J.R. Council (talk) 03:49, 15 April 2015 (UTC) J.R. Council (talk) 16:26, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Before this article is ready to go live, you need to break it up into sections and add more detail.
 * As of this now, I'm not seeing anything new. You should start working on this. Please follow my suggestions.

Hi, I added dividers for separate sections, edited a few sentences, edited the intro paragraph, and tried to clean up some references. Stefan, I'm not quite sure what happened when you added your references, but I'm pretty sure we can't submit the article like that? It's pretty hard to read and edit. Maybe try to submit them/add them to the article again, or use the visual editor? I'd like to add more to the Uses section but it's difficult to navigate. Hihellohowareyou334 (talk) 17:34, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Looked for problem / Sent link
I looked over this and could not find the problem that Nikki described. Actually, looks good enough now that I sent the link to Ian. Hopefully he can get back to you today. J.R. Council (talk) 18:13, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Feedback
Nice work on this draft. It looks good; a few more recent references would be useful, but it's fine as it is. When you merge it with the contemplative psychology article make sure you preserve the categories that are currently in the article, and remove the stub template. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:45, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Stefan asked about adding more categories. Yes, you should definitely do that. What Ian is saying is to work around what is already in the article, rather than just replacing everything with what you've written.
 * For example, here is the current first sentence:
 * The first and seminal paper on Contemplative Psychology defines it as the body of “psychological insights and methods that are – often implicitly – present in the vision and practices of religions and that clarify and guide one’s contemplative or religious development” (De Wit, H. F. 'On Contemplative Psychology', p 82. In: J.A. Van Belzen & J.M. Van der Lans (editors),Current Issues in the psychology of religion, Amsterdam: Rodopi,1986).
 * You would keep this, but correct the reference citations. It is the same as the first sentence in the your sandbox article, so just follow it with the your introduction material. (I would still edit the existing first sentence so it starts, Contemplative Psychology. And so on....

J.R. Council (talk) 18:16, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Congratulations! Time to publish
Looks like Ian has given you the go-ahead. Be sure to read the advice I posted on Blackboard about moving an article to main space. In Announcements and Assignments (after instructions for Assn. 9.)J.R. Council (talk) 22:00, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Email me when you start doing this. J.R. Council (talk) 19:12, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Congratulations! Contemplative Psyc article published
Nice job, Nikki and Stefan! J.R. Council (talk) 21:14, 11 May 2015 (UTC)