User talk:Hijiri88/Archive 10

requesting a two way interaction ban
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved.  D r e a m Focus  05:36, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

Socking
Please see [].Slatersteven (talk) 16:02, 23 January 2019 (UTC)


 * While it's got nothing to do with the above bad-faith sockpuppetry accusation (there was no attempt on my part to mislead or evade scrutiny -- quite the opposite), I should probably point out here that while is right on the money when it comes to the substance, they are not me, and whoever it is is far more confrontational than I've ever been. FWIW, though, I do intend to comment on that AFD once this block expires, since it should not be allowed close as "1-1, default to keep" because an editor showed up with a bunch of Googled sources he apparently hadn't read and through them into the discussion apparently in the hopes no one else would read them either. Any decent closer would treat the IP's comment as what it is -- a legitimate rebuttal of a clearly faulty argument, that just happens to be expressed in a gruff manner, perhaps by someone hiding their account name to avoid scrutiny -- and dismiss the faulty argument accordingly, and close as soft-delete since the nomination was neither supported nor opposed in any meaningful way. Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 05:29, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
 * BTW, I don't want to into details, but the above accusation was definitely bad-faith, as were the other two previous SPIs that had been filed on me. If anyone wants the details they can have them, but the basics are here. Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 06:23, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
 * It's amazing how such a brazenly bad-faith filing can go ignored like this. Slatersteven even quotes you in the filing declaring yourself to be yourself. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 10:26, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

Restoring tpa
As you know, Hijiri, you're on a self-requested block until February 2; a type of block that includes revoking tpa access and wikimail when I set it. But after our e-mail discussion and some consideration, I have decided to restore tpa and e-mail Bishonen &#124; talk 09:45, 24 January 2019 (UTC).


 * THANK YOU! First off, I should apologize again for not thoroughly familiarizing myself with your standard self-requested block rules beforehand, and for being too proud to walk it back once you told me. That was my bad, and I am terribly sorry.
 * For everyone else: I should also clarify that, if the community feels that my editing via an IP was disruptive block evasion, I am prepared to accept the consequences. I thought that if I clarified up-front that "I am Hijiri, my block was self-requested, and I hadn't fully thought through the consequences, but I need to respond because I feel I am being hounded" my problem would be understood and it would not be seen as sockpuppetry or the like; apparently, I was wrong, and for this too I apologize.
 * It has actually come to my attention that a bunch of other events occurred roughly simultaneously with my posting my retirement message. Not only did an editor I conflicted with last year, who had been blocked multiple times for harassing me, return to editing, but another editor who was site-banned last summer partly for conflicting with me was also apparently quite aware of it, apparently because someone has been going around emailing people about me, and another editor I conflicted with back in 2015, who was site-banned in 2017, appealed their site ban within minutes of my most recent logged-in edit before this one.
 * All of this has me feeling quite distressed, and while I do, now, intend to return to working on Wikipedia from next month, I ... really do not know what is going to be done about whatever has been going on. I hope someone will be willing to help me, but ... well, I'm just afraid. This whole affair has had me feeling utterly miserable, and I don't know what I can do to make it go away; shortly before my block, I emailed an admin with a sincere apology for all the trouble I had caused in the day or so leading up to my retirement, and yet people continued to push for me to be sanctioned specifically because I was supposedly refusing to acknowledge any wrongdoing.
 * So I'm going to say this one more time, here, publicly: I AM SORRY. I'm sorry I have brought disputes to ANI and caused trouble to the community. I'm sorry I didn't familiarize myself with the terms of the block I requested. I'm sorry I edited logged out in because I felt buyer's remorse once I realized I was still being hounded, rather than simply waiting out the block. I'm sorry for using for ... everything. Please, just accept my apology.
 * Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 10:11, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Hijiri, forget all about the past. After the expiration of the block, edit Wikipedia as usual. Wiki-community needs your outstanding knowledge on literature.―― Phoenix7777 (talk) 10:25, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm going to give you some advice, Hijiri, as I do not like seeing people distressed or miserable. If you want all this stuff to go away, you really do need stop bringing it up.  That includes mentioning past disputes, perceived hounding, even if you don't name editors and refer to them instead with terms like "a certain editor", "an editor I conflicted with", or "some people", and so on.  Each time, you know who you are talking about, they know who you are talking about, it's just carrying on a cycle of feuds. Please use this as an opportunity to let it all go.  I'm sure you don't enjoy all this feuding, and while I completely understand the desire to defend oneself, you don't have to do so.  Nobody is judging you if, instead of fighting back, you disengage.  Eventually everyone just gets tired of seeing the same names over and over again on ANI and escalating punishments get meted out; I don't want to see that happening to good editors.  You can do this now, and from Feb 2, when your self-imposed block lifts, please just focus on editing.  It's far more fun.  If you find yourself wanting to be drawn into a dispute on a talk page about said editing, don't make a fuss, don't tell everyone "I can no longer work on this page because of X Y and Z" or "Certain parties have made this article a bad place to work", or anything dramatic; just quietly, without even an edit summary comment about hounding, put work on that article to one side for a while and find another one of the 6,000,000 or so articles on Wikipedia to work on.  Find topics you enjoy working on collaboratively, where the other editors and the topic matter combine to make your editing something to look forward to.  If there are real issues with harassment and/or people continuing to badger you after you accomplish this, then please feel free to email me or any admin you feel comfortable contacting, give them the facts, don't draw attention to the fact on Wiki, and allow the issue to be dealt with by someone else; you don't have to fight every battle. In fact, you don't have to fight any battles on Wikipedia at all, this is supposed to be a chilled-out, fun, educational hobby. Whenever it isn't, it's draining.  Don't let it be. You'll have seen I have argued and am arguing in favour of interaction bans, this is not so much to punish both parties then it is to protect them from one another.  I hope this finds you in good health and that you take this in the spirit it's intended, which is trying to be helpful.  Cheers, Fish +Karate  10:39, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your advice. It's good, I appreciate it, and I will do my best to follow it.
 * I even, in theory, agree with You'll have seen I have argued and am arguing in favour of interaction bans, this is not so much to punish both parties then it is to protect them from one another. -- that's why I requested mutual IBANs with three editors in the past; the problem, though, is that several members of the community treat it as though it were a punishment for both parties, or at least for whichever one they want to at any given time. I think I sent you some of the diffs of this happening to me in the past (why I have since changed my mind and now avoid IBANs like the plague), but if not ... well, I don't want to talk about it because I would like to put the past in the past, but seriously, I would really like someone to come to my defense when people write things like The guy has a lot of flak with people, especially with [name redacted] and other guys. The amount of Interation bans he has seems to be a bunch... on-wiki, which still occasionally happens from time to time (the last flare-up was last July when I opened an ANI thread about an editor who had written a whole bunch of comments about how I was crazy and paranoid -- I admit I probably seem a little paranoid at the moment, but it's only because no less than four users in the last couple of weeks, none of whom have ever interacted with each other on-wiki, have publicly claimed to be receiving regular emails about me) . The problem is that with IBANs, unlike TBANs, I cannot explain the reasons why I am subject to this or that IBAN when other people bring it up. wrote in his response to my initial email two weeks ago that if anybody tries using an IBAN as leverage for some bs sanctions, ping me and I will personally tell them to fuck-off, but having a non-admin promise in private to tell people to fuck off when they harangue me about stuff because they know I can't fight back is ... well, it doesn't help all that much.
 * Also, on a basically unrelated note, I just recently re-read this and noticed you were included in a list of editors I had conflicted with or apparently conflicted with in the past; I honestly don't know, and am sorry for forgetting if that is what has happened, but do you have any idea why that was? If so, I'd really like to apologize to you specifically for whatever bad blood we might have had between us, since I just really wanna get all this stuff over and out in the open and finished and behind us, so if you have any recollection I would really appreciate it.
 * Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 11:33, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Everything after "I don't want to talk about it because I would like to put the past in the past" is exactly the sort of thing you need to stop posting. Read my advice again, and then re-read what you posted above. Please.  If an interaction ban is brought up and you want to explain it, just post a link to Editing restrictions; if this is not the end of the matter, then as I said previously, email me or any other admin you are comfortable emailing.  The rest of your post is not going to be responded to by me, you need to let this all go.  Fish +Karate  13:05, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

I want to echo absolutely everything Fish and karate has said here. GoldenRing (talk) 14:46, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I will try follow this advice. Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 14:55, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

Got nothing to do with my case, but I recall a while back seeing an editor who received an indef self-block with talk enabled from ; I went to Bishonen basically as a symbolic gesture because she had implemented ' self-block, and deliberately asked her for the exact same expiry date as his. I had always just kinda assumed self-blocks were commonly accepted, if not all that commonly performed, and didn't know that there were specific admins who did them or did not do them and had their own house-rules (yeah, as I said above, it was my bad for not looking closely enough at MPants' block log before asking Bish for the same). There was also an ArbCom case a few months ago (it was quite notorious at the time so I guess you might remember it?) of an admin unblocking himself under illegitimate circumstances, during which case it was brought up a few times that a legitimate use of self-unblock was in the case of admins blocking themselves for non-technical reasons and then changing their minds. I've always just kinda assumed that non-admins asking admins to block them was basically just the non-admin version of the same. (BTW, I'm not asking anyone to unblock me since I'm happy to wait out this block as long as I have talk access back; I'm also still super-busy IRL and wouldn't be able to do much good for the project until February anyway.) Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 04:37, 25 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Just wanted to comment (as I have discovered the comments on my talkpage occasioned a number of subsequent discussions, none of which I was alerted to) that although I almost always disagree with F&K's take on (almost) everything, I do fully agree with their advice in this case. And I hope you'll take that agreement in the context of one of the non-admin editors who rather vehemently did defend you in the ANI discussion. Letting it go will benefit you, and your blood pressure, greatly. You'll also find that deliberately disengaging will be to your advantage if/when something ever pops up again; sometimes bringing up perceived insults/slights/whatever, or arguing on your own behalf, is ultimately self-defeating. I wish you the best, and I hope you find ways not to let this stuff get under your skin so much in the future. Grandpallama (talk) 22:20, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
 * "at some future date" is wrong, as they are already being weaponized against me. In this case, the other editor is already subject to a one-way IBAN as an unblock condition; making that two-way because he is refusing to abide by said condition is nonsense. That's all I will say until you activate email. Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 22:45, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

Some memos for later
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kingdom_Hearts_III&diff=prev&oldid=879981856 Not sure what the English says (my battle with IGN refs whose official Japanese translations don't say the same thing as other Wikipedians say the English does continues...) but the Japanese says III avoids the stagnant pacing of II, which will probably need to be fixed unless the Japanese translation is just wrong.

Interaction ban
Per consensus of the community, you are banned from interacting with, subject to the usual exceptions. The discussion and decision are recorded here. Thank you. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 14:17, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

Mislabeling a sock?
I'm not sure what the logic (sorry...) behind this edit was. I'm peripherally aware of both editors and don't think their behaviour is similar, neither one is apparently mentioned anywhere in the archives of the other's SPI, you have not apparently edited either SPI, you do not apparently have access to CU data that I do not, and even your edit history in the 24 hours around the edit doesn't provide any clue as to what the connection is. Was it a mistake? Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 14:20, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
 * UTRS requests #23642 and #23643 make it clear that the same person is operating both accounts. I am not able to post any content from these appeals but any admin can examine them. Just Chilling (talk) 01:43, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Ah, okay. That ... somehow casts ATL in an even worse light than before. Anyway, thanks for clearing that up, anyway. Cheers! Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 03:15, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

February 2019 at Women in Red
Thank you very much for the notification! I'm gonna have more free time next month, and also not be blocked, so I'm gonna get working on some of the entries in WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by occupation/Writers - Japan. That said, I'm a little concerned about some of the entries in WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by occupation/Politicians - Japan: a quick Google image search appeared to indicate that 2	近藤喜衛 and 6	大森玉木 are both men (their names look masculine, but also like names that someone with a rudimentary knowledge of Japanese names so they know that names ending with certain sounds are often feminine, but not enough knowledge of the Japanese writing system to tell that these names really don't look like feminine names, might think are girls' women's names). I'm not sure what the procedure for removing them would be, though; my check was not exhaustive, and I might be mistaken. I'm also not sure how they could have gotten on the list; the page history indicates it's mostly an automated collation of Wikidata info, but the ja.wiki articles don't imply they are women. Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 11:49, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi Hijiri88. That list is based on a Wikidata query. Somehow, those two entries were tagged as gender=female. I have changed that to gender=male, so they won't be on the list the next time the bot updates it. Thank you for noticing and for mentioning this. Glad to hear you'll be working on some Japanese women writer articles! Why were you blocked? --Rosiestep (talk) 15:50, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
 * General unpleasantness. I asked for some IBANs way back in the day (2012-2017) because I was being harassed and figured two-way IBANs would solve the problem with minimal drama; the editors in question mostly either got themselves indeffed or (essentially?) left the project, but editors who are still and have some bone to pick with me started pushing for me to be site-banned because I had been subject to bans for my "disruptive attitude" (or something; ironically, the claim seems to be that I love drama, when the whole reason I requested the IBANs was to minimize drama). The whole experience was stressful as hell, so I decided to leave the project. After a week or two my feelings changed, but I've decided to leave the (self-)block in place anyway. Also, super-busy IRL until Friday. Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 16:19, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
 * "boy's names" and "girl's names" is pretty standard for talking about the names that parents give their sons and daughters, regardless of what age the historical people in question lived to. I didn't actually call the women in question "girls". Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 00:45, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
 * You were talking about "men" with "girls' names", girlyman. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 01:08, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
 * But a "girl's name" is a name you give to a girl. :P In all seriousness, I don't see discussion of "men's names" (like "Jonathan") and "women's names" (like "Cynthia") as opposed to gender-neutral (like "Michael") very often; they're usually called boys' names and girls' names. Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 01:19, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
 * A real man doesn't father girls and boys—he sires redblooded men and women! Listen to your elders and stop being such a disputatious fuck. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 01:26, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

SPI (not about you :))
I opened Sockpuppet investigations/Wikibreaking. I would appreciate it if you could comment on the case after the expiration of your block. Thank you.―― Phoenix7777 (talk) 22:07, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

Lorne Green
Hello, it's just a thought but I suspect most of the links would have been from the police and crime commissioner template at the foot of the page so there probably wouldn't be all that much to change. This is Paul (talk) 11:20, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

Email
I got your email of 29 Jan, thanks. It was in my spam folder, hence the late spot. I should check it more often but it is rarely false-flagged. I'm still having issues re: CIR matters - we seem to be crossing paths. - Sitush (talk) 17:21, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

Medieval Japanese literature GAN
Hijiri88, I adjusted the nomination time on your new GAN for this article; since you withdrew your previous nomination over a month ago, you need to start afresh in terms of seniority.

One thing you'll want to do with the article is expand the introductory paragraph into a three- or four-paragraph lead section, since Good Articles are expected to meet the GA criteria including MOS:LEAD, which includes the length criteria and what should be included in a good lead. Your article is about 40K prose characters at the moment. Since it does generally take a while for nominations to find a reviewer—it's typically months rather than weeks or days, though it can be days if it's something a reviewer is particularly interested in—you should have plenty of time to do the expansion. Best of luck! BlueMoonset (talk) 19:09, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Also, yeah: I've still got a little work to do on the body, then I'll summarize the whole thing in the lead (which'll give me an opportunity to copy-edit my own work) -- I've already done the vast majority of the work that I personally find more difficult and time-consuming, though, and I'm aware that it normally takes quite a while for these articles to find reviewers. Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 23:09, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

April 2019
--Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:00, 25 March 2019 (UTC) via MassMessaging

(Please excuse this post if it is a duplicate!)

Deletion of most Episode infoboxes images
After the discussion, I started a discussion at WP:TV, thinking it would be easier than nominating several hundred images for deletion separately, but as you will see, only one other editor has contributed (but I think described the images in question quite nicely). I'm posting this message because a) I thought you might be interested and b) I was wondering if you knew any editors who might be interested in the discussion that can be notifying in a way that isn't WP:CANVASSING. -- Ted Edwards  22:07, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
 * On this point, I've removed most of the images of Game of Thrones episodes, bar Mhysa and The Lion and the Rose (for these two I've changed the purpose of using the image at File:GOT-S03-E10 Mhysa.png and File:Game-of-Thrones.S04-E02.Purple.Wedding.jpg respectively). Just thought you might want to know (unless you do know because I've cluttered up you watchlist in the process). -- Ted Edwards  21:54, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

May you join this month's editathons from WiR!
--Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:17, 27 April 2019 (UTC) via MassMessaging

From Japanese to English
Request translation: ja:烏丸家 (Karasumaru family), ja:山本顧彌太 (Koyata Yamamoto), ja:亀井重清 (Shigekiyo Kamei), ja:片岡常春 (Tsuneharu Kataoka), ja:伊勢義盛 (Yoshimori Ise), ja:駿河次郎 (Jirō Suruga), ja:鷲尾義久 (Washio Yoshihisa), ja:富樫泰家 (Yasuie Togashi), ja:村田勝志 (Katsushi Murata), ja:藤井恒久 (Tsunehisa Fujii), ja:宮根誠司 (Seiji Miyane), ja:諸國沙代子 (Sayoko Shokoku), ja:世界一受けたい授業 (THE MOST USEFUL SCHOOL IN THE WORLD), ja:にっぽん丸 (Nippon Maru (1990)), ja:馬場元子 (Motoko Baba), ja:生ハムと焼うどん (Nama Ham & Yaki Udon), ja:いず (巡視船・2代) (Izu (PL 31)), ja:かめりあ丸 (Camellia Maru), ja:京都府警察 (Kyoto Prefectural Police), 柳川次郎 (Jirō Yanagawa), 花形敬 (Kei Hanagata), 小林楠扶 (Kusuo Kobayashi), 毎朝新聞 (Maiasa Shinbun), 田中六助 (Rokusuke Tanaka), ja:日本赤十字社医療センター (Japanese Red Cross Medical Center), ja:角田久美子 (Kumiko Tsunoda), ja:安村直樹 (Naoki Yasumura), ja:三枝夕夏 (Yūka Saegusa), ja:少年ケニヤ (Shōnen Kenya), ja:チャンピオン太 (Champion Futoshi), ja:ジャイアント台風 (Giant Typhoon), ja:引田有美 (Yumi Hikita), ja:松岡巌鉄 (Gantetsu Matsuoka), ja:鈴木理子 (ホリプロ) (Riko Suzuki), ja:谷内里早 (Risa Taniuchi), ja:尾崎仁彦 (Kimihiko Ozaki), ja:アーサ米夏 (Aasa Maika), ja:吉村道明 (Michiaki Yoshimura), ja:沖識名 (Shikina Oki), ja:芳の里淳三 (Junzō Yoshinosato), ja:篠原光 (Hikaru Shinohara), ja:沖野ヨーコ (漫画家) (Yōko Okino), ja:徳住有香 (Yuka Tokuzumi). Thank you very much, if you can help me. --95.252.62.78 12:03, 28 April 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.252.62.78 (talk)
 * Please, can you help me with some of these translations? Thank you. --80.181.63.29 09:01, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I'm on a break. When I come back I'll take a look; some of those are within the my normal editing area. Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 14:16, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I'll wait for some translations. --95.232.38.195 14:51, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
 * But I should warn you, Japanese Wikipedia is, in general, garbage ("No citations -- just trust us"), so when I write articles they're generally based on reliable secondary sources. If, for whatever reason, you specifically want to know what the Japanese Wikipedia articles say, you'll probably have to ask someone else. Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 15:00, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

FLC
Hi, Hijiri. The FLC had been open for four months without attracting any support. Unfortunately, we can't leave candidates open indefinitely in the hopes that reviewers will come along if no support is evident. Even if there had been no opposers, at a certain point there isn't much us closers can do in this situation but close the FLC as unsuccessful. In my eyes we had reached that point. Having had little activity for the last few months due to real-life work, I'm only now getting back up to speed and wish I had had time to have a look at the situation earlier. The featured list criteria do mention that lists should have "a minimal proportion of redlinks" in criterion 5a. I've seen varying interpretations of what constitutes a minimal proportion in the past, but having a majority of poets red-linked in a list of poets strikes me as a violation of that criterion. My best advice to you is to consider whether all of these poets are truly notable enough to have separate articles. If not, you can just remove those links, as there is never a mandate for links to non-notable topics, and that should resolve this particular concern. I do hope you bring the list back to FLC in the future if the red-link issue can be fixed, as I find the topic fascinating and it would be a nice change of pace from what usually earns FL stars. Giants2008 ( Talk ) 01:19, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi, Hijiri. The FLC had been open for four months without attracting any support. Wait, so candidates need bold support !votes rather than people saying they wouldn't be opposed to promotion if it meets X criterion? I put a whole bunch of work into specifically to answer the request of those who chimed in in the first month or so.
 * Anyway, yeah, I'll keep working on creating articles on all the poets (I still don't agree with TRM's "if you think the topics are notable, you need to keep them linked, even if that isn't an actual FL criterion", mind) and renominate once enough of that is done. It'll probably be this December before I get around to that, though; WP:WAM would be a better time to mass-create mid-length articles like these than the spring.
 * Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 01:38, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Regarding the first sentence of your comment, that is what is required for an FLC (or FAC) to pass. Reviewers not returning to an FLC after commenting is an issue that pops up from time to time; I've found that the best thing to do in such cases is to leave a message on the reviewer's talk page asking if they have any more comments. That brings it back to the reviewer's attention while avoiding the appearance of canvassing for support. Best of luck with the future work. Giants2008  ( Talk ) 01:27, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

Feminism
Please accept my apologies for misinterpreting your comment! Polyamorph (talk) 10:18, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
 * No trouble at all. Honestly, it's probably me who should be apologizing: I had an edit conflict, read the wrong line in the edit window as your sig, and thought you were the same person who had been blatantly trolling me immediately above. Yeah, I probably would have reacted similarly even if I knew you were someone else, but part of the problem was that posting a reply in several stages would make it nearly inconceivable that it was a good-faith misunderstanding, as it would imply multiple rereads of my comment. Your statement that you misunderstood my comment as referring to someone else, though, is perfectly reasonable. Thank you for having the guts to come here and apologize—that's rare these days—and in the spirit of reciprocity I hope you will accept my apology for my own embarrassing gaffe. Cheers, and happy editing! Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 11:48, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

User talk:Chaosdruid
Hi

I did reply on my page, though after reading your comment again just now, I realise I may have misunderstood your comment.

To be clear, from my end, I have copyedited many articles, so am familiar with the end punctuation in or out. Am I correct in thinking you were saying that you thought I was doing it by context of our article rather than original quote?

If "yes", then no.

My intent was to remove a full-stop (period) at the end of the quoted material if it was not there in the original; and to move the ending punctuation to the end of the sentence, after the quote marks, if the quoted material was at the end of a sentence and was not the only material in that sentence.

E.G. In 2060, McDuff did say that "he had been in a right stew."

If the original ref/quoted material was "in a right stew.", I should have left it in there.

I also get annoyed by refs in the middle of sentences instead of after punc. You may have seen me correcting both types a few times in an article, if the article was full of them.

I would be grateful if you could remember roughly where you might have seen it, as the worst mistake is a copyedit that makes something worse!

Cheers Chaosdruid (talk) 21:42, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Japanese honorifics
Please, can you help me with this discussion? Thank you. --87.14.25.141 07:51, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

Just going to note...
...that I feel less and less inclined to return to editing when I see things like an admin editor with a grudge against me compare me to a "fart in an elevator" and say he hopes I "fade away". It's incredible what someone with a mop can get away with without anyone even calling them out on it. I try to make peace with someone I conflicted with, he pretends to agree, then comes back months later and copy-pastes a comment I wrote onto several other fora pretending they are his own words, and posts trolling comments clearly designed for my benefit, then when I call him out on that he questions my mental state, and I'm the bad guy!? What the fuck!? Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 00:33, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
 * 7&6=thirteen is not an admin. While neither of you behaved particularly well in that AfD, I do think you over-reacted.  If you've already refuted the points made by another editor, trust the closer to read the discussion and close it accordingly; throwing accusations of trolling around only ever inflames the situation and, in this case, I suspect rather weakened your point than strengthened it.  GoldenRing (talk) 10:30, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
 * While I agree with most of what you say and appreciate your input, the "admin" bit was related exclusively to the "fart in an elevator" simile, which was made by Amakuru. I've got a script running that highlights admins' names, so the only way I could make that mistake would be if someone structured their sig and user page display titles specifically to trick the script. Thirteen hasn't gone that far yet, but you surely agree that copypasting my comment and presenting it as his own was definitely out of line and somewhat weird. Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 11:10, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Umm no, your script must be in error because it definitely wasn't me who made that comment. And contrary to what you may think, I don't have any sort of grudge against you. I only share the same exasperation as that expressed by F+K and GoldenRing above, concerning the amount of drama that seems to follow you around the Wiki and the constant accusations of hounding and trolling, all of which detracts from your very excellent content work. It would really be a shame to lose you over such avoidable trivia. Regarding the dispute at hand, my comment here yesterday was not intended to "take sides", and was directed at both you and 7+6 with a suggestion to leave each other alone, since that's what you both seem to want. That includes not following each other's activities on user talk pages. I will reiterate that suggestion here but it's up to you what you do with that advice. Thanks &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 16:05, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Shit. My apologies. That was not the script's fault, though. I suspect I was just tired. Anyway, it's still a grossly inappropriate remark whether or not an admin made it. Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 22:36, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Freinds
Lets try to be friends or at least friendly Wikipedia editors who do respect each other. I apologize for making those rude comments I made on my talk page. I do not like friction and I will do my best to WP:AGF. I know that you are doing your level best to make Wikipedia better and I am sorry that we have been on different sides in the past. i will look for areas of agreement with you in the future. All my best.  Lubbad85  (☎) 15:55, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I'd be happy to be friends, but you have to take my advice when I say things like (a) you should try to be a bit more civil in the way you write about other editors, if you need to write about them at all; (b) you shouldn't lecture more experienced editors about Wikipedia policy; (c) don't copy-paste text onto Wikipedia -- that's about the worst thing you can do; and (d -- I actually didn't mention this one until now) you might want to stay away from WP:ARS -- I'm going to assume good faith and think you just got the wrong idea about how AFD, DRV and so on work from hanging around there, but you should know now that that project has something of a reputation for having an extreme, and frequently counter-policy, position.
 * As for point (c), that's really something you are going to need to work on if you want to continue contributing to Wikipedia. If you have any questions you can always feel free to ask me -- and if I'm away I can probably name some others who'd probably be better than me to begin with.
 * Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 16:03, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Hijiri 88Thanks! Good to meet you. I am sure we will be on the same aide of some issues. I am learning every day. I have appealed these deletions reflexively. I am probably wrong in the GNG, of the chuck W and the Kelly M articles, however I thought the deletions were not procedurally correct. Live and learn. My best!   Lubbad85   (☎) 16:08, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Hijiri 88 Regarding C from your list. I have hopefully corrected (or others have already corrected) all of the issues you have listed. There was a total rewrite of the Bengal cat article which contained many copyvios. That article was offline for a long time while admins approved scrutinized it - that was a major learning experience (much different than college research). I hoped that we both WP:AGF but I see from your sandbox entries that you did not. You are looking at older edits that have already been removed/improved. This hopefully shows that my Wikipedia editing has improved. I certainly had a long way to go, and I am not even there yet. I hope you have a great weekend. And I do hope we can be on the same side of some issues.  Lubbad85   (☎) 04:55, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm looking at older edits because you haven't made any newer edits to demonstrate that you are no longer adding copyvio content. AGF actually is on the side of further scrutiny, since assuming these were good-faith mistakes means assuming that until you demonstrate otherwise you are liable to make the same good-faith mistakes again. Most serial copyvio editors, in my experience, are doing so in good faith, but that certainly doesn't mean we should ignore the copyvio. The fact that much of it was still intact at the time I noticed it, and that you basically ignored my message above until you saw that I was continuing to compile evidence, indicates that this problem is far from over (ask what happens when a good-faith editor says they are learning but then a few months later gets lazy and goes back to plagiarizing).
 * BTW I don't think simply marking the copy-pasted text as a quote, as you have been doing, solves the problem. Not only does this turn the articles into WP:QUOTEFARMs, but it doesn't send a message that you have learned how to properly paraphrase sources.
 * Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 06:26, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Hijiri 88 Unfortunately we are not going to be friends. My friends do not keep enemies lists and or engage in this type of "Gotcha" behavior. My friends would not "compile evidence". When I see incorrect edits or copyright problems I correct them, I do not "compile evidence". It is a shame because I am sure that we both edit to make Wikipedia the best it can be. I have a masters degree (background in education and I am very familiar with what constitutes plagiarizing and paraphrasing. I will no longer ASG from you and I will ask you to avoid all communication with me. It takes a tremendous amount of energy to deal with your spurious claims. It is a terrible shame that this is how we must spend our time...negative energy.   Lubbad85   (<b style="color:#060">☎</b>) 12:55, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
 * So, you won't be my friend because I asked you (politely as fuck I might add: If you have any questions you can always feel free to ask me) to abide by Wikipedia policy and offered you advice on how to do so? Classy. Anyway, where on earth did "enemies list" come from? Please back up accusations like that with evidence, or don't make them. I am very familiar with what constitutes plagiarizing Your edit history says otherwise. And, I can't stress this enough, that's the AGF option; you are claiming you know perfectly well what constitutes plagiarism and have been doing it anyway out of ... malice? Laziness? Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 14:45, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Hijiri 88 If I see problems on Wiki I fix them. You have demonstrated that you enjoy springing traps, and getting into protracted arguments with other editors. My goal is to not waste energy on negativity and divisiveness. Where I find areas of agreement with you I will say so. However... you lie in wait and that is contrary to Wikipedia goals, so I must part ways with you. I will wait for your expected ambush and hopefully I will be ready to waste many hours of my time combating your negative energy. Until then steer clear of me and I will steer clear of you  Lubbad85   (<b style="color:#060">☎</b>) 14:58, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Promise me you will stop violating Wikipedia policies and I will not monitor your new edits. Your old edits need to be checked and cleaned. Apologize for your above personal attacks (which you were explicitly told to cut out nary but two days ago) and I will bear you know ill will while doing so, and like in (at least for the first eight months of) the above-linked case will go out of my way to protect you from being blocked while doing so. Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 15:05, 18 May 2019 (UTC)


 * You are misrepresenting. I wasn’t warned against anything... your fallacious ANI was speedy closed. On the other hand I found several ANIs against you that were enforced by administrators. I think we’re done now. I am busy growing as a Wikipedian. Communicating with you and combating your false hoods a stunting my Wikipedia growth.   Lubbad85   (<b style="color:#060">☎</b>) 15:42, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
 * So ... you're admitting to hounding me back months and months ago (there was one ANI thread about me in February, one that ... kinda became partly about me ... in January, and ... I can't even remember the last one ... I think there was one that technically qualified back in August) as revenge for my trying to clean up your plagiarism mess? Nice. Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 16:36, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Never heard of you until I was hit with your Tendentious editing on the afds and deletion reviews. I have no time to follow you or anyone as I am busy working on articles here - not springing traps. I looked into your conduct this am and found lots of friction between you and other editors. This was after I became aware of your sandbox (compiling "evidence" against me) which is counter to Wikipedia's goals. Wikipedia is about working together not compiling evidence for some "dramatic gotcha moment". You are looking to jam me up because I have disagreed with you. So I will await your dramatic evidence drop. Best if we do not talk, however I never knew you until recent, and I cannot say I have had a good experience with you so far.  Lubbad85   (<b style="color:#060">☎</b>) 17:18, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Cool. It's clear you're not interested in becoming a better editor, or ceasing your above harassment and personal attacks. Kindly stay off my talk page until you're willing to apologize. Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 01:11, 19 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Just going to note that the above user apparently wanted so badly to be "freinds" that he opened an ANI thread with the explicit intention of getting me site-banned, and when that didn't go his way he remodeled his user page with anti-Japanese propaganda about "sneak attacks" and the like, with the excuse that the anniversary of D-Day (which had nothing to do with Japan) is around the corner. If I were Japanese I could probably call it racist, but then it seems like no one ever actually reads my user page (certainly the above user hasn't -- the aforementioned ANI thread included a specific complaint about my user page that clearly got the relevant facts about it totally wrong) so it's entirely possible he thinks I am ethnically Japanese and so thought that talking about how "you can't trust those Japs and their sneaky ways" would offend me not only on a brotherhood of man level and on the level of a strong sympathizer with Japan who loves Japanese culture, but on the level of someone who actually is Japanese. Anyway, it's just a funny anecdote at this point. Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 02:14, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Yoshitsune (TV series)
Utsubo is a fictional character, appeared also in Yoshitsune (NHK Taiga drama) del 1966 (ja:義経 (NHK大河ドラマ)). Please, can you create her own voice, with a detailed story, because she is a very important character in this series? The 49 video are here. Thank you. --87.4.239.210 07:23, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

Continued hounding/name-calling
(This was gonna go on the talk page of a certain admin, but I'm reluctant to annoy them with the same issue twice until they acknowledge my email and indicate a willingness to help, so dumping this here instead.)

He showed up on the user talk page of another user who was conflicting with me, and said "don't let the bastards grind you down" -- how can this possibly be appropriate? I don't want another two-way interaction ban when the problem is entirely another user refusing to leave me alone. I seriously don't know what the solution is.

Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 07:39, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
 * He just can't let me alone. And that wasn't even a response to some new incident; he was apparently checking my contribs or has my talk page on his watchlist, and saw the above. Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 08:42, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Apologies for not yet responding to the email you sent me, Hijiri. I was quite busy over the weekend and to be honest I don't really know what to say to either you or 7+6 right now. My advice is the same as before - just ignore each other. Even if the message on Lubbad's talk page is related to you, there is no need for you to do anything about it as far as I can tell. Just ignore it. If that's not possible then I think, despite what you say above, a two-way ban will be inevitable... that shouldn't be an issue for you since you've already said you don't want to be communicating with 7+6 any more anyway? Thanks &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 11:35, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
 * The rest of what you write is unproblematic, I agree to it, and so no reason to explicitly address it beyond this, but as for that shouldn't be an issue for you since you've already said you don't want to be communicating with 7+6 any more anyway?
 * Look at the two most recent Hijiri88 IBAN discussions: several editors said things to the effect "This user has IBANs -- why do we continue to tolerate his presence on the project?", disregarding the fact that all my previous IBANs were put in place at my request to protect me from one-way hounding. (One of them was special, but it would be off-topic to explain why.) I actually noticed this trend a while ago, and so was careful never to request a third IBAN while any other two were currently in effect (this was my main reason for appealing one, and why I requested another editor's one-way ban be removed). This attitude is, as far as I can tell, fairly consistent with the view held by those who routinely oppose two-way IBANs on principle even when recognizing that a problem exists. Sanction-gaming is a thing with other types of bans as well, but when I was subject to a TBAN I could freely say "Hey, stop talking to me about X -- are you trying to get me blocked?", while IBANs don't grant that liberty: of the four IBANs I had experienced before this year, three of them, after being put into effect, involved some kind of incident wherein the other editor (or someone acting in their stead) tried to goad me into mentioning them by name, then tried to request I be blocked whether or not I took the bait. I can receive apologies from admins for bad blocks made as a result of such incidents, but the blocks are still there in the log for anyone so inclined to bring them up.
 * If I could be guaranteed that "mutual agreement and no fault; this IBAN cannot be used as precedent for to propose further sanctions for either party" would be written into the wording of the restriction, I might feel different, but as long as every new IBAN means I have to spend more time looking over my back when I'd rather be building the encyclopedia I will be very reluctant to support sanctioning myself.
 * Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 12:08, 20 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Just leaving this diff here in case I need it later. I find it incredible that no one has noticed what's going on here yet. Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 15:14, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

June events with WIR
--Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:42, 22 May 2019 (UTC) via MassMessaging

Japanese location
In this anime letter, just before "黄昏の館", there is a Japanese location, but I can't understand those kanji very clearly. Can you help me? Thank you. --80.117.94.21 07:41, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Zooming in closely revealed it to read 長野県松本市. I actually still couldn't read anything past 長野 except 本 but guessed it must be 県....市, and I know there's a city in Nagano whose name ends in "-moto", and knowing that I was able to confirm at least that the blurry characters do look like those ones. Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 08:09, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
 * And the phrase before "長野県松本市"? There is also this image. --87.15.51.92 08:23, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I linked it. :P Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 08:25, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Can you translate also that phrase before "長野県松本市", and the four signs here? --87.15.51.92 08:36, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Date/time: January 26 (Sunday), from 7:00 pm Place:...
 * As for the signs: they're a bunch of fictional locations; I could transcribe their readings and tell you why they (some of them?) are supposed to be funny, but ... what does this have to do with Wikipedia? And ... how did you find my talk page?
 * Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 08:41, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I only want to know the meaning, then can you help me? --87.15.51.92 08:43, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
 * All of them are proper nouns. They're made-up proper nouns that are meant to be amusing/creepy, but my question is why do you want to know, and why you are asking me specifically? I've told several users that I'm busy these days, and no one that I am specifically available for this kind of work. Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 08:52, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I want to know it because I'm a big anime fan. --87.15.51.92 08:55, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
 * But what makes you think I'm a big anime fan? I don't dislike Conan, but I'm stuggling to figure out why you're specifically hassling me over this. Why not WT:ANIME? Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 08:57, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
 * But if you know Japanese, I want only know the meaning of these locations. Then, can you thanslate those signs, so it's very closed. --87.15.51.92 08:59, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
 * "Welcome to Middleofnowhereville", "Hotel Twilight", "Okuno Dam" and "Yamanouezawa". Now please leave me alone. I'm getting a very suspicious feeling you're trolling me, since this has nothing to do with Wikipedia and I've never expressed an interest in these kinds of things. Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 09:06, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

ANI advisement
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. --  Lubbad85   (<b style="color:#060">☎</b>) 03:59, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

ANI discussion
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. --  Lubbad85   (<b style="color:#060">☎</b>) 14:15, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

You're obviously an experienced user
You, therefore, should be well aware that making unsubstantiated allegations of WP:NOTHERE is clearly against WP:NPA. I won't patronize you with a template, but still want to leave a friendly reminder, all the same. ThunderChunder! | Talk to me! | Walk with me! 03:56, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Nothing unsubstantiated at all. Consensus on the nature of your involvement in that thread is unanimous, and "NOTHERE" isn't even my word, so your coming here to harass me with the above, when you have not said the same to User:SportingFlyer just makes you look even worse.
 * As an aside, SF, I checked our previous conflict. It was technical bullshit related to my belief that AFD is the correct forum for discussion of mass-redirecting substubs, aggravated by the disruption of a problem editor who is no longer around. I categorically apologize for any errors of conduct I made under those circumstances, and would like to formally thank you for your extremely helpful efforts in the last two weeks.
 * Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 04:11, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Just gonna note that the above throw-away account was blocked shortly after the above for the period of a week, and then left the project. I never figured out which SBANned and/or IBANned editor it was. The timing makes me suspect Catflap08. I don't think it really matters. Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 15:21, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

CU
Or maybe I just have nothing to hide. But no, I will not voluntarily violate my own privacy by posting my IP address to connect it with this account. 1F6😎E 09:24, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
 * But you claim you already have by making edits without registering an account. That is not requesting you "violate your own privacy" (sic). Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 09:38, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Or the above mighta been Catflap. Or neither of them. Or they might have been the same as each other. Again, doesn't really matter. Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 15:24, 15 July 2019 (UTC)