User talk:Hike395/Archive 4

DYK
 Did you know has been updated and a fact from the article Pu'u 'O'o, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you have another interesting fact to submit, then please suggest it at the section's talk page. Congratulations... but how do you pronounce it? :) 68.81.231.127 10:33, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Template:Mapit-US-cityscale
Yep - same problem. It may have something to do with the recent upgrade and having - in page titles. http://bugzilla.wikipedia.org is the place to report such a bug. --mav 00:58, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)

You shouldn't be talking to me...
User:Danny got permission. I believe he even talked on the phone with the creators of the documentary, at least from what he said on IRC. He suggested the images be uploaded to commons with the CopyrightedFreeUse tag and asked if someone would upload them, so I did. User:ContiE was working on a template for a license, but I guess he never edited the images to put the template in there. In any case, I was just helping out -- you should contact Danny for details. CryptoDerk 05:31, Jan 21, 2005 (UTC)
 * I chatted with Danny this morning -- if he hasn't already given you this link, here it is commons:Talk:Pompeii:_The_Last_Day CryptoDerk 16:59, Jan 21, 2005 (UTC)


 * Hi Hike395. Just to clarify a little more, the offer of these images came to the Foundation email team, who reply to mail for Jimbo and the board.  I'm expecting that we will get more offers like this as time goes on, it's a good way for people to get their images seen, and a good way to us to find images for the projects - a real win-win situation (as they are not asking anything from us in return).  The company are fully aware of the implications of us and others using the images.  The link CryptoDerk gave above gives a lot of the info, I'll also look at the local and Commons pages again now to ensure that all is clear.  Let me know if anything else is unclear.  Thanks -- sannse (talk) 17:29, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Geo-stubs
Hi Hike395 - just a quick note to say that stub articles for places in the US should get rather than simply. Keep up the good work! Grutness|hello? 01:49, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Death Valley National Park FAC
Hey Hike - Thought you would be interested that Death Valley National Park is going through the featured article candidate selection process. If you'd like to comment, then Featured article candidates/Death Valley National Park is the place. :) --mav 05:12, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Infobox
Well, I guess you noticed it before I was even able to post it at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mountains. My comment does note that aspect of the infoboxes, which I hate, but I know of no way to remove inessential fields. Perhaps now that I have finished my comment you can read it there. Like I said, this is just an effort, I am nowhere near an expert, and it is yours to use, not use, and change. Moogle 04:39, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)


 * I wonder if perhaps there are basics that you think that every mountain would have that could use a shorter template? Moogle 04:40, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)


 * Discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mountains. Thanks! --- hike395 04:42, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Kathadin
Hike395 -

Thank You!

I was the one who said it was the wrong pix of Katahdin. I have climbed it 11 times since 1986, and was pained to see the error! Baxter State Park is beautiful, and is our little slice of PacNorthWest/Alaskan Wilderness in the NE.

Thanks Again

CompassMonkey.com
I made a comment on Yosemite - Please let me know if this site promotion continues to be an issue as I don't keep the national parks on my watchlist. Just happened to be reading the one on Bryce and did a quick lookup on on the domain owner and reverted. Trödel| talk 12:47, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Quotes
Hi Hike - if the fullstop is part of the quotation, yes, it should be inside the quote, but without a fullstop after the close quote, the sentence remains unfinished and runs into the next. Therefore the stop at the end too. - MPF 17:36, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Koyaanisqatsi fair use screenshot
Thanks for your message about the Koyaanisqatsi image. My understanding was that single frames from copyrighted films were generally considered fair use in Wikipedia. The 2001: A Space Odyssey page, for instance, has quite a few frames from the film. What type of justification other than the screenshot tag which I added should I provide? The fair use page doesn't give much more insight into the matter other than stating that screen shots may be fair use.

Yosemite National Park FAC
If you'd like to comment, please do so at Featured article candidates/Yosemite National Park. :) --mav 01:03, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)

various asteroids categories
I'd like to revert your changes to the various near-Earth asteroid categories, since the additional category that you have added is redundant. e.g. categ Aten asteroids is already a member of categ Asteroid groups and families by virtue of being a subcategory of Near-Earth asteroids (which is a sub-category of Asteroid groups and families. Would you have any problems with this? Thanks, Ian Cairns 18:52, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Hi, yourself
Sorry I haven't responded sooner. I've mostly stopped working on Wikipedia because I got sick of having my work "improved" by bright 10-year-olds. Sadly, I'm addicted, so I do make the odd change, but yeesh... this thing is the worst mixture of useful information and pure Bullstuff. Best wishes! Mackerm 20:25, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Mount Baker
If you think there is some particular value in having Latitude and Longtiude specifed seperately in the infobox (instead of having them together), then I'm pretty sure you cannot use the clickable coordinates. I've reverted your change. But as I mentioned, if you think having Latitude and Longitude seperately is important, (for which reason I do not know, perhaps as an aid to those who do not know which is which?) then just go ahead, but please remove the coor link because it won't work to split it in two different cells. Especially so since the coor templates will be replaced by a tag at a later date. -- Egil 11:36, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Greetings!
Thanks for the note on the Carrizo Plain! I was actually going to head out there today but I'm getting to a late start.

By the way, I couldn't agree more with your user name! Every summer at least once I try to head up the 395 ... those are some of the most beautiful places in the west. Maybe this year I'll finally climb Mt. Dana. Happy editing! Antandrus 15:25, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Puu Kukui
Out of curiosity, where did you get the 2 Myr figure? The data that I'm looking at says it's ~1.3 Myr, and that the island of Moloka‘i is closer to 1.8. Myr. --Viriditas | Talk 11:02, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Ok, I see you got that figure from USGS. . I wonder which number is correct.  I'll look into this. --Viriditas  | Talk 11:05, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * That's probably a good idea. --Viriditas | Talk 11:27, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Mount Edgecumbe
Hi Hike395 - just for future reference with disambiguations involving New Zealand mountains the usual format for the name of their articles is "Mount X, New Zealand", not "Mount X (New Zealand)". I realise parentheses are used in some countries, but we like to be different :) Grutness|hello?  12:20, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the suggestion - I've listed it at Naming conventions. Grutness|hello? [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]]

Category usage
I notice that you added Category:Mountain ranges of the United States to the Appalachian Mountains article. That is correct, but I would suggest that you should have removed Category:Mountain ranges of North America at the same time, on the theory that only the most specific category should be applied to an article; since Category:Mountain ranges of the United States is a subcategory of Category:Mountain ranges of North America, leaving the latter in place is redundant.

Now, I've written the above as though I know what I'm talking about-- I don't. I'm pretty new to working with categories, and some things about them I find thoroughly puzzling, so if you know something I don't, please let me know. I think the above is right, though, and I have removed the North America cat, pending new discoveries.

TIA, Mwanner 15:39, Apr 24, 2005 (UTC)

Yes, I noticed the missing Category:Mountain ranges of Canada when I went back to look at the Appalachian Mountains article, and I added it despite the redlink. Then I asked myself, "shouldn't it really be Category:Mountain ranges of Montreal for the adks?" Again, with the idea that only the most specific category should be applied. All of which has me thinking that, perhaps, the "mountain"/"mountain range" distinction is not a helpful one. After all, you don't want to have both a "mountains of X" and "mountain ranges of X" for each state, province, country, etc.

On the other hand, if you consider the thousands of categories of the form... ...then maybe I'm just being stingy? Like I was saying...categories seems like a can of worms.
 * 1896 Summer Olympics
 * 1896 births
 * 1896 books
 * 1896 deaths
 * 1896 films
 * 1896 in law
 * 1896 in sports

Mwanner 18:26, Apr 24, 2005 (UTC)

Yes, I'd noticed that Mtn ranges of Canada was now live, thanks. Thanks, also, for your guidelines on creating categories.

Is there any place where categories get discussed, generally, or within broad chunks? Some US history cats seem awkward at best (Category:U.S. military history 1900-1999, e.g.) but I've yet to find any active discussion of issues anywhere. -- Mwanner 21:19, Apr 24, 2005 (UTC)

WikiProject History seems to be just what I was looking for. Many thanks. -- Mwanner 21:58, Apr 24, 2005 (UTC)

Geology of the Death Valley area FAC
If you have a spare moment, I'd like to see any feedback you may have about Featured article candidates/Geology of the Death Valley area. Thanks! :) --mav 21:26, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Volker Thewalt Photos
Thanks for your note of 8th May about the Volker Thewalt photos. Sorry for the confusions. Sometimes I am not very confident with all the processes in Wikipedia. Volker Thewalt has written emails to me several times and at least once specifically asked me to put them on the site. He was not sure how to do the editing himself. He also sent to me all the photos in the form in which I uploaded them. If you need to see the emails I could forward them to you. Please let me know.

In the meantime I will go in and add a note to this effect for each photo and add as the domain type.

Hope that fixes the problesm, but please do let me know if there is something else I should do.

Cheers!

John Hill

Volker Thewalt Photos again
Hi, Hike! No need to worry about being a pest. I am not quite sure what to do. I originally contacted Volker and asked if he would like to have some of his photos put on the Wikipedia (as Nanga Parbat and Rakaposhi are amongst my favourite mountains), and specifically told him that they would then be free for anyone to use after this. I suggested that, if he was worried about others using them, he could forward lower resolution copies to be uploaded. He agreed to all this and sent me the photos asking me to post them (as he was not sure how to do it). He has written since saying how pleased he has been to have them in the Wikipedia.

Here are a couple of letters from him on the 24th April, for example:

Dear John,

thank you so much for uploading the photos of Nanga Parbat! It is beautifully done... Is it possible to have a mail-link attached to the author's name???

Attached please find four photos of Rakaposhi including the top of that magnificent peak. The first three pics were taken from Aliabad in Hunza valley, the fourth pic was taken some 20 or so kms downstream.

Thank you very much again, all the best

Volker

......................................................

Dear John,

since I have no experience at all with wikipedia I refer to your offer:

---//  snip //- >..... but, if you wish, I would be happy to post them for > you if you wish. .............. -- //  snip //--

I'm sending three photos (1x Rakaposhi, 2x Nanga Parbat) and would like to ask you to insert them into their proper places in Wikipedia's relevant articles.

Best regards Volker

--

Dr. Volker Thewalt Kapellenweg 8 D-69257 Wiesenbach Deutschland fon: +49(0)6223-970122 fax: +49(0)6223-970123 http://www.bamiyan.de   http://www.thewalt.de/mahabalipuram -

Is this enough, or would you like me to contact him again? Should I change them back to GFDL?

Please help me get this all straight, as I am not sure the best way to go from here.

Cheers,

John Hill

More on Volker Thewalt Photos
Hi Hike395!

I have just received your latest note about Dr. Volker's photos of Rakaposhi and Nanga Parbat. I have done exactly what you asked and have written to him asking for a letter giving permission that I could post with each photo. I have also sent him the full urls and checked each photo again to make sure it was listed as GFDL and no longer said they were copyright free (I did this after your last post. I will let you know what he says when I hear from him. I hope this will tidy everything up. I appreciate and undderstand your efforts to make sure everything is above board in terms of copyright.

Sincerely,

John Hill

Letter of permission from Volker Thewalt
Hi!

I have just received a letter from Dr. Volker Thewalt giving permission to use his photos of Nanga Parbat and Rakaposhi. I have pasted it into the Discussion pages of each photo as you requested. I hope this is all O.K. now. By the way, he said he was very glad to discover that the Wikipedia was so correct in its approach to the publication of photos.

Cheers,

John Hill.

Pu‘u Kukui continued
Aloha. Back in the beginning of April we had a brief discussion about sources for geological dating. I finally tracked down what I believe to be the most recent measurements (2003). FYI...you can find it online at Hawaii's Volcanoes Revealed, courtesy of the U.S. Geological Survey. The data can be found in the corresponding PDF files, linked at the bottom of the page. I'll attempt to pull the numbers out and place them on the correct pages if you don't get it first. --Viriditas | Talk 05:56, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

lots of edits, not an admin
Hi - I made a list of users who've been around long enough to have made lots of edits but aren't admins. If you're at all interested in becoming an admin, can you please add an '*' immediately before your name in this list? I've suggested folks nominating someone might want to puruse this list, although there is certainly no guarantee anyone will ever look at it. Thanks. -- Rick Block (talk) 00:40, Jun 16, 2005 (UTC)

CA State Routes
Please do not remove the classification of California State Routes from Interstates and US Highways... a) the California State Highways Code does not diffrentiate between Interstates, US Routes, etc. and b) the general consensus on the WikiProject talk page states that Interstates and US highways are to be included in the WikiProject, and therefore need to have the classification.

--Rschen7754 04:00, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)
 * never mind, see the strategy page instead (i missed that on my watchlist. --Rschen7754 04:02, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia - Support Vector Machines
Hey Hike395 --

I am a Stanford student working on a research project on Wikipedia. I posted a note to you back in December – the project got a bit waylaid and I am just finishing it up now.

You are the main contributor to Support Vector Machines and I am doing an ethnography of that article. I want to get a sense of what editing articles in Wikipedia is like beyond looking at the history page and have a short list of questions for you and if you had the chance to answer them, it would help my research out a lot.

(1) Is Support Vector Machines on your watchlist?

(2) How often do you check your watchlist?

(3) In what situations do you edit articles on Wikipedia?

(4) What guidelines/rules do you follow when you edit a Wikipedia article?

(5) Have you ever read any of Wikipedia's style guidelines? If so, what parts did you read?

(6) What other ways have you learned the rules of editing in Wikipedia?

(7) Do you have an audience in mind when you edit a technical article? If so, what is that audience?

I will check back for your reply or you can put it on my discussion page, or use the "email this user" link. Thanks! - Caroline

Adiabatic lapse

 * How about some discussion on Talk:Adiabatic lapse of the idiotic renaming to two adjectives without the noun. Gene Nygaard 13:58, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Picture
Your quick replacement of the picture I uploaded was kind of sudden. I agree the one you used is more clear but only shows the cathedral group of the Tetons and not the bulk of the range...anyway, can you drop me a note next time as I was only trying to add some pictures to an article that had some pretty bad shots. I liscensed it under GFDL. Thanks.--MONGO 20:48, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

CA/SR Intertsates
Hi,

I know rschen has left a comment of the same nature above, but i've noticed you've removed the califronia state route cat from the 3di's in california. Again, Caltrans categorizes all state higwhays, interstates, and us highways as 'state routes', thus should be included in the category. atanamir 05:16, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Howdy
Hi hike395. Thanks much for your welcoming comments. The eastern Sierra is also one of my favorite places--have you gone up Buckeye Creek into NE Yosemite yet? Thanks for clueing me in on the various WikiProjects, particularly your mountains project. I'm going to have a look at it shortly and looking forward to learning more. Perhaps I can contribute something as well.

I moved your comments re: statistical classification to the statistical classification/temp discussion page so as to promote discussion (hopefully). Hope that's OK. My response is there also. I do still need to read more about the editing and discussion etiquettes I realize.

Jeeb 1 July 2005 23:42 (UTC)

Shasta elevation
Hi 395. WOW, that's news. Everyone up here always cites 14,162 as the elevation (I'm at the mountain now). Thanks for that info and apologies for changing. 17 feet is an appreciable difference. I'm going to be real careful with my edits now!

Still a tremendous amount of snow on all sides and the corn skiing is really getting great. Strange experience to ski in July but no complaints!

Jeeb 2 July 2005 04:58 (UTC)

Bob Marshall wilderness
Thank you for adding a picture! I've been looking through my personal photos for one of the chinese wall but the resolution is lousy. I searched the web and didn't see anything at least none that I could use I don't think without requesting permission it would be great to get the chinese wall shot.--MONGO 4 July 2005 16:35 (UTC)

The picture you added was fine...here's a link to a shot I like...I'll continue to search and see if I find one and if I do I'll add it. The articles I created are mostly glorified stubs as I like to be able to make it easy for almost anyone to cross reference my info through a web link and I plan and hope others will expand them...unfortunately, not many of the articles I started or plan to start have much readily available content on the web. Anyway, here's an example of the shot I like .--MONGO 5 July 2005 03:46 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll keep looking...I got a couple of boxes to look through, but I'll bet that there all at least 10 to 20 years old. Appreciate your help.--MONGO July 5, 2005 07:31 (UTC)

Jon Gibson
Bravo for splitting the Jon Gibson(s) article into two! That should've been done in the first place, but I guess not everybody has the skills to be able to do something like that.

Thanks
I am learning as I go. I tried to add a caption to the picture in the Glacier National Park article...I realize I bunched up the page a bit and I thank you for getting it straightened out.--MONGO 12:58, July 13, 2005 (UTC)

CASR template
Do we need the template anymore? Because it wound up on Templates for deletion. --Rschen7754 20:26, July 18, 2005 (UTC)

CA/SR 152 photo
thanks! it took quite a hike to get to the top to take the picture =) atanamir 07:01, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

J. N. LeConte and Public Domain photos
I'll look to see what I have about J. N.

Public Domain Photos In the meantime, I'm a little confused with the rules Wikipedia seems to use for PD images. For published books, everything copyrighted before 1922 is public domain ( 1963 if the copyright wan't renewed). U.S. government-produced stuff is PD.

Wikipedia seems to use PD-old, PD-old-50 and PD-old-70 tags where the author died 100/50/70 years ago. Are these rules because photos are treated as unpublished manuscripts? (in this case it has to be 70, not 50 years for the U.S.).

I'm wondering about the case of a published photo. I've always assumed if the book's copyright has expired (i.e., is now PD), the entire contents are PD, including photos. Is this true?

Material moved to Joseph Nisbet LeConte. Dananderson 20:47, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

Glacier terminology translated (at last!)
I saw that you had problems when trying to translate Spanish terms for the article glacier. Well, I left a message there with all the terms you will find when writing such an article. I know the words you where looking for. Plus, I uploaded the drawings from the Spanish version with their text lines translated too. I hope you find this useful. Regards, Luis María Benítez 20:51, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

/Ben Nevis

US Interstate highway stub problems
At WikiProject_Stub_sorting/Proposals there is an ongoing debate about U.S. Interstate Highway Stub and US Highway stub... --Rschen7754 00:45, August 7, 2005 (UTC)

Template:Mtnbox
We have a class do deal with infoboxes now and the code on there is outdated. Do we really need to have a lengthy debate each time a WikiProject thinks that their infobox deserves to look different because they spent so long design it? Should we let each WikiProject design their own imageboxes? Over-ride the background colour on all of their pages? Use a different font for their articles? The Projects should be concerning themselves with content, and keep the appearnce simple. ed g2s •  talk  11:14, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

Please see my comments on WikiProject_Mountains/General
I hope this will at least resolve part of the dispute. JesseW 05:18, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

Infobox standardization support
You have voted for the suggestive title Infobox standardisation on Votes for deletion/Infobox standardisation even though your comment indicates that you are actually against standardization creep or at least do not support it unconditionally. VfD for these cases offers the option to vote move to NPOV title. Comment on Votes for deletion/Infobox standardisation if you want the page to be moved, for instance to Should we have instructions to standardize infoboxes?. --Fenice 08:45, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

Red Slate Mountain
Hi,

I will put the picture on Wikicommons on Monday. I did it this June by the couloir. The picture is taken from the Meadow (I guess).

Best.

Poppypetty 23:45, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

Pronunciation
Have run this through some of the Brit hill contributors, thought i might ask you since you seem to be the authority on hillboxes :-)

I know this is probably impossible, but would it be possible to add a 'Pronunciation' row in the Welsh + Scottish hills infoboxes? I for one have no idea how to pronounce Liathach, Beinn Eighe, Cnicht or a lot of others and I'm sure there are lots of people who don't. This wikipedia is supposed to provide information on hills; shouldn't we tell them how to say them as well? Probably imposs though... --Mark J 17:09, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

Red Slate Mountain on Commons
Done. Best.

Poppypetty 07:15, 30 August 2005 (UTC)