User talk:Hildanknight/Archive 2

Hello. I have decided to leave Wikipedia like Terence.

I joined Wikipedia for three main reasons:
 * 1) To contribute information to articles on websites and Singapore TV shows
 * 2) To find online friends with common interests to collaborate on articles of interest
 * 3) To improve my English writing skills (which are already among the best in my school)

I find that I am failing in these goals.
 * 1) Check my recent edits. I hardly contribute information to articles anymore. Instead, I am reverting a couple of vandalisms daily. That's draining me from contributing. I wish Wikipedia did not allow anonymous editing.
 * 2) After 5 months, I have not made any Wikifriends, except Terence, who is leaving. (After 5 months on Google Groups, I already had made many good friends.) In contrast, I'm in conflicts with other users, like NSLE and Warrens.
 * 3) Contributing to Wikipedia does not seem to have helped me improve my English significantly.

My other reasons for leaving:
 * 1) I was hoping to promote Wikipedia by creating a Google group for Wikipedia and introducing my school friends to Wikipedia. My idea of a Google group was ridiculed. My school IP is blocked.
 * 2) WP:V, and its related policy WP:NOR, means any information I contribute will probably be deleted.
 * 3) Wikipedia is causing me nothing but stress. The blocks to 202.156.6.54, and my lashing out, which violated WP:POINT, got me blocked. I was also involved in a conflict with Warrens.
 * 4) My friend, Terence, who is leaving, has given me insight into some problems on Wikipedia, and I do not want to end up like him. For an example of what I mean, see his second RFA.
 * 5) I think Wikipedia would be better off without me. My lack of knowledge with wiki markup still causes me to mess up articles. I also have other issues, including my occasional tendency to insert pranks and POV into articles.
 * 6) I am stressed in real life, and do not have much time to edit Wikipedia.

I am not permenantly set on leaving. This means that if most of these issues can be addressed, I won't leave. My planned date of departure will be 25 July 2006 (exactly one year after I adopted the online moniker Hildanknight). Until then, I will still occasionally check in to check responses from Terence and the rest of the community, and settle my affairs on Wikipedia. If nothing causes me to change my mind, after 25 July 2006, you will not see any more edits from Hildanknight.

My only dilemma will be whether to delete Google Groups, Homerun and WP:RFF (all created by me). Terence has advised me not to.

Sorry and goodbye, and all the best to Wikipedia.

--J.L.W.S. The Special One 14:16, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Listen up...
''' Retiring??? '''There is absoultely no need for you to go. Yes, I understand your woes, but you have the potential. I'm your age, so I know very well how you feel. You are young and inexperienced, like I was. Do not fear. I can help you. Don't belive me? See you on MSN, if you have. All the best.--Tdxi an g  10:42, 6 July 2006 (UTC)'''


 * Thanks for your encouraging reply. I added you on MSN Messenger. Your MSN Messenger account is tdxiang6@hotmail.com, isn't it? Terence knows my MSN Messenger account. Get it from him. --J.L.W.S. The Special One 06:56, 7 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Besides, anti-vandalism is still good. Just accumulate your edits little by little, like I do.--Tdxi an g  10:42, 6 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I don't mind editing vandalism. However, I prefer to contribute information to articles. When my reverting vandalism is causing me to stop contributing information, that's a bad sign. --J.L.W.S. The Special One 06:56, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Well....
Wikinews accepts original reporting. Perhaps try there? Anyhow, WP:V and WP:NOR often doesn't come into play that often with Singaporean articles, especially since they can be correlated. And I wouldn't advise suggesting deletion on notable articles you create, since there's no ownership on them. Once an editor, always an editor, so just edit when you can, and don't edit when you need to do other things. ;-) Elle vécut heureuse à jamais  (Be eudaimonic!) 14:31, 6 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the information. I will contribute articles about Singapore TV shows. Such information can be difficult to verify. I hope that, as you said, WP:V and WP:NOR will not come into play too much with these articles. --J.L.W.S. The Special One 06:56, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Thoughts on creating a Google group for Wikipedia
"My idea of a Google group was ridiculed."

Comment Hmmm... too bad it was "ridiculed". Perhaps those making comments on your proposal were too strong in their criticism. Can you provide a link to the place where the discussion took place?

I think I understand your motivation. However, let me explain what I think the pros and cons are for creating a Google group for Wikipedia.

It's not a terrible idea although it doesn't strike me as a wonderful idea. The reason that I might not support creating a Google group is that the Talk Pages constitute a kind of collaborative forum similar to some of the functionality of Google or Yahoo groups. Moreover, there are tens of thousands Wikipedia editors who most likely would interact in one or more Talk Pages. Thus, creating one Google Group would not work well because it either would only get a tiny percentage of Wikipedia editors or would get overwhelmed by having too many.

Now, the best argument FOR creating a Google group is that Wikipedia rules specifically say that "Wikipedia is not a social forum".

I would suggest that you consider creating a Google group for some subset of Wikipedians to join in a social forum about Wikipedia.

If you give the group a focus like "Singaporean teenage Wikipedia editors", you may find some kindred spirits with whom you share similar interests.

Good luck.

--Richard 13:46, 17 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Hello, and thanks for your response. You have helped put things into perspective.
 * I was thinking of creating a Google group for Wikipedia because of some of the deficiencies of Talk pages. For example, the markup is a little tricky, and others can edit my posts. The Google group is not intended to replace the Talk page system, though. In the group, Wikipedians could socially interact, AND discuss Wikipedia as a whole. We could do some things that are difficult to do with the present Talk page system.
 * Having a Google group would also help us spread Wikipedia. As you know, Google Groups allows users to create groups to meet like-minded people. Therefore, in Google Groups, there are lots of experts and fans who would make potential Wikipedians! For example, my friend owns a Google group called RuneScape World, for RuneScape players. Now, a couple of Wikipedians could join the RuneScape World group, and ask the RuneScape players in that group to join Wikipedia and contribute to RuneScape and related articles. Eventually, after contributing to RuneScape and related articles, and getting used to Wikipedia, some of them would become regular contributors to Wikipedia, and they can ask questions in the Wikipedia group. So everyone wins.
 * This idea is not restricted to Google Groups. It can be used for Yahoo! Groups and other websites allowing you to host groups and forums. I thought we might start with Google Groups, because I could manage the group. After all, I wrote the Google Groups article, and have been on Google Groups for almost a year, with plenty of experience managing groups.
 * --J.L.W.S. The Special One 05:17, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments on the articles that you are thinking about blanking
Please don't. Blanking an article is considered vandalism unless you are the ONLY editor who has contributed to that article. Just because you were the original editor doesn't mean that you have the right to blank an article that has since been edited by others.

In theory, you don't even own the original text that you contributed (as others have pointed out above). However, even if you have the right to revert your own text, it should be obvious that blanking an article that others have contributed to is a serious act of vandalism. That kind of stuff can get you blocked.

As a general comment about the attitude and motivation that makes you even think about blanking these pages, I will say this as gently as I can but it is something you should think about and take to heart:


 * Grow up. You should concentrate on being proud of the work that you did rather than feeling that your leaving Wikipedia means that you should trash all the good work that you did in a fit of petulance (aka "taking your marbles and going home").

Now, let's look at the articles that you mentioned as candidates for blanking:

Google Groups - a great article with lots of contributions from a number of editors. This article should be nominated for GA status and, with a bit of work, could easily reach FA status. Why not help improve it to being a featured article? Wouldn't it feel great to have an article that you created and worked on featured on the front page of Wikipedia?

WP:RFF - another great contribution which has been used by a number of editors. It doesn't seem to be well-advertised, though. This is the first that I've heard of it. Maybe you could investigate how to get it advertised on the Community Portal.

Homerun - This article appears to be the same as Homerun (film). I can't easily determine how much of the article is your work as there have been a bunch of editors recorded in the history of Homerun (film). Regardless, this is a great article that should be nominated for WP:GA. With some work, it could also easily reach FA status. Once again, here's a project for you to take on.

One of the criteria used by some RFA voters for passing an RFA candidate is having worked on a Featured Article. You have two articles that are within striking distance of being FA. Consider taking them the rest of the way.

Why leave now? You've done some great work and have the potential to do more. I would suggest that you are suffering from WikiStress and need the support of some Wikipedians. Consider joining WP:ESPERANZA. You are already listed on the stress alerts page there. I will try to muster some support and encouragement for you there among fellow Esperanza members.

--Richard 17:43, 17 July 2006 (UTC)


 * 14 is a difficult age, but I am slowly but surely growing up. Having done badly in my previous exam, and currently with a torn ligament, I was pretty stressed and frustrated, and that's why I considered leaving. I'm feeling better now, so I've decided to stay. And the kind messages from you and others contributed to it. Thanks.
 * As a born writer, I've always taken pride in my work. I knew the articles I wrote were better than most first articles, but I never imagined another editor considering them potential Good Articles. You have given me encouragement, and I definitely will not let you down. I will work on making Google Groups and Homerun Good Articles (it will be some time before they can get featured), and to make WP:RFF an integral Wikipedia process.
 * If my Google group for Wikipedia is successful, and I also succeed with the goals outlined in the previous paragraph, perhaps I could become an admin. Though frankly, I have no idea how I will handle the responsibilities of being an admin!
 * Thanks for your support, and keep it up. Yes, do list me on Esperanza. I need the help.
 * --J.L.W.S. The Special One 05:17, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments on the alleged "blanking" of the Homerun article
On reviewing the history of the Homerun article, I think you misunderstood what User:Themindset did and therefore misrepresented the situation at Village pump (assistance) and, as a result of the misrepresentation, got some bad advice from User:Herostratus.

User:Themindset did NOT blank the Homerun article. He/she MOVED it to Homerun(film) and documenting what he/she was doing with this edit comment "(moved Homerun to Homerun (film): Homerun is commonly used in english to refer to a Home run, not this movie.)"

After having done this, he/she redirected Homerun to Home run which covers the most commonly used meaning of the phrase "home run". Note that the Home run article has a disambiguation link at the top which points to the Home run (disambiguation) page which includes a link to Homerun (film) article.

This is a perfectly defensible arrangement and is pretty much in accordance with Wikipedia policy.

None of your work was destroyed, blanked or deleted. It was just moved to a different name in order to comply with the Wikipedia policy that the most common use of a phrase be the one that Wikipedia readers see first.

Now, there is some room for arguing that Homerun should redirect to the Homerun (film) and that the Homerun (film) article should have a disambiguation link at the top. I wouldn't support that argument but it is one that you could make and discuss with other editors if you wished.

The bottom line, though, is that, through your understandable but unfortunate confusion, you have created a mess in that there are now two articles with exactly the same content Homerun and Homerun (film). I have cleaned up this mess by reverting to User:Themindset's redirect of Homerun to Home run. If you do not agree with this arrangement of article titles, feel free to open a discussion on Talk:Home run.

--Richard 18:06, 17 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your clarification. Once again, my unfamiliarity with wiki markup let me down. I think Homerun should redirect to Homerun (film). The current disambugation link at the top of the Homerun (film) article should be adequate. --J.L.W.S. The Special One 05:17, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

How to make me stay
The reason why I want to leave is that I think I am failing as a Wikipedian.

As mentioned, I joined to contribute information to articles on websites and Singapore TV shows. I would revert vandalism occasionally, if I spotted it. Recently, however, most of my edits are reverting vandalism (a couple daily), and this is draining me from contributing information.

In addition, I have failed to make friends here, and am instead getting into stressful conflicts/

I want to continue contributing information to articles on websites and Singapore TV shows. In addition, I want to make friends with similar interests, so we can collaborate on articles on our interests.

I think finding appropriate WikiProjects would help me continue contributing information. In addition, the participants in the WikiProject are potential Wikifriends, as they are likely to be people with common interests, editing the same articles as I do.

Once I join a couple of appropriate WikiProjects, and continue contributing information, and make several Wikifriends, I will definitely decide to stay!

In addition, I hope I can resolve several issues and conflicts that are causing Wikistress, most notably the blocks to User:202.156.6.54 that are locking out me and many legimate Singaporean Wikipedians. Over time, my knowledge of wiki markup and process will improve, and after a successful editor review, I may become an established and respected contributor to the project. There'll be no more reason to lack confidence then! Hopefully we can also do something about my failed attempts to promote Wikipedia as well.

--J.L.W.S. The Special One 06:56, 7 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I don't think "Wikipedia will be better off without you". I think Wikipedia will be the poorer for your leaving.  Of course, Wikipedia will continue right on without you but I think both you and Wikipedia will be the poorer for it.


 * That said, we aren't going to beg you to stay or jump through hoops to meet the conditions you set to keep you here. We can try to help you find ways to contribute and forums which will help you enjoy the experience more.  But, ultimately, what you get out of being a member here is your responsibility, not ours.


 * You appear to have found some avenues to investigate as documented on Village pump (assistance). I hope one or more of those work out for you.  Good luck.


 * --Richard 18:11, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Hi. Sorry to see that you are thinking about leaving. Wikipedia needs its contributors, for obvious reasons (in case you are wondering, I came across you at the Esperanza talk page; not that I care two hoots for Esperanza, but the stuff there is good for a laugh occasionally). It seems that general stress levels have got too high for you; may I give a modicum of advice?


 * I'm largely associated with the Opera Project. I've found it to be a largely pleasant (and driven) atmosphere, with several very decent people contributing. Battles in the classical music sphere of things tend to be of a very mild nature, but when there are conflicts I tend to simply state my opinion and move on; therefore I do not get any further dragged in. I don't know how you work when it comes to conflict, but I never get too bothered. And surely there are other people in the world who can revert vandalism?


 * I don't see as there's much wrong with the quality of your English - believe me, I've come across a lot worse (see my talk page). In this particular case, the user found a copy-editor(s) to correct his articles once he'd written them (he's now written over 100 from non-existence and commands great respect and affection); if you are worried about making mistakes, then perhaps this might be a good step to take (maybe your copy-editor could be your vandal-reverter as well?), but there don't appear to be many problems in the first place!


 * I've just had a look at the List of WikiProjects. Perhaps in the computing section you might find something appropriate? If none of all this works, take a complete wikibreak for a couple of weeks. If you find yourself relieved to be out of it, then shut up shop. If not,then come back. And lastly, if the websites and Singaporean aspects of Wikipedia are proving too stressful, then abandon those parts of Wikipedia to their fate, immerge yourself in a new hobby (archery or opera or whatever) and come back and edit and improve those sections of Wikipedia.


 * In the hope that some of this is useful, Best Wishes from Moreschi 19:29, 17 July 2006 (UTC).


 * Thanks. I'm a huge fan of Opera - no, not the music, the browser! I agree that my English is pretty good; my teachers and friends consider me a born writer. I don't mind reverting vandalism occasionally, it just happened that while reverting vandalism, I lost my focus of contributing informaton. That won't happen again, at least not once I find the right WikiProjects. --J.L.W.S. The Special One 05:17, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I was referring to the music - I don't suppose that I could persuade you - no, probably not. Good to see that you're staying. Moreschi 15:48, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Advice
I fell into the same routine as you have a while back.....then I found that I had to work to find something to do here. Wikipedia values all contributors, but it does not nurse them. Join a project or two, help out at the admin noticeboard, join the cleanup taskforce. Welcome some new users, or offer to help out new users. If you show this community that you are better than just vandalism reverting, it will come to you.--The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me) 20:41, 17 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the links. I will check them out. Perhaps welcoming new users would help me make Wikifriends. It will come to me - what are you implying? Adminship? --J.L.W.S. The Special One 05:17, 18 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Adminship comes after you know the community well and the community knows you well. I don't know you well enough to say whether or not you are ready for adminship, but the process can be quite stressful, so you may want to wait until you have a large amount of self-esteem to gamble before you go for it. You do not need to be an admin to have a voice in the encyclopedia, after all, all an admin does is delete, protect, and block. As a user, you can get that done anyway at WP:AFD, WP:RFP, and WP:AIV. There is also nothing preventing you from offering advice to admins at the admin noticeboard. Stride for adminship if you feel it will help you and the encyclopedia, but wait if you still feel that you don't know how to handle adminship.--The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me) 20:19, 18 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Oops. I was thinking about another section, when someone said that one of the criteria for adminship is having worked on a Featured Article, and I should try to get Google Groups featured. I don't think I am ready for adminship yet, and I don't need to be an admin to do what I do best. I will consider adminship at a later date, when I'm more familiar with wiki markup, and have established myself on Wikipedia. --J.L.W.S. The Special One 05:36, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Dont get discouraged by trolls
Vandalism and trolling are not worth getting worried over. If you see something going bad consider leaving it at the Admin noticeboard for Vandalism stuff and then getting on with wikifying a few articles in the backlog. Try not to take vandalism of your favourite articles seriously, that would be letting them win. We can't have that now can we! Hope we can convince you to stay and contribute some more. Have you joined up with any Wikiprojects you are interested in? They are good places to make friends with like interests who can back you up on issues you run into. BTW, I think your english is very respectable. Have a great day! Ans e ll 00:30, 18 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I agree. Vandalism is not worth worrying myself over. I don't mind reverting vandalism to my favourite articles occasionally. It just happened there was a period where when reverting vandalism I lost my focus of contributing information. I am currently looking for WikiProjects, so do tell me if you find any that you think will suit me. And thanks for complimenting my English.
 * P.S. While editing this entire page I was seriously tempted to use some emoticons or the word "Aw...", but I know better than that. It makes my writing unprofessional, and avoiding that has helped me maintain a great command of English. Haha.
 * --J.L.W.S. The Special One 05:17, 18 July 2006 (UTC)


 * You may be interested in WikiProject Computer and video games as well as I noticed you have inquired about the general computer wikiproject, both of which may provide you with enough interesting things to do on a regular basis. If you need any more suggestions your countries wikiproject and possibly noticeboard may be other places to go. Ans e ll  11:21, 18 July 2006 (UTC)


 * If that WikiProject covers online games, like Neopets and RuneScape, count me in. I think I might work on the AdventureQuest article. Singapore currently has a noticeboard, though not a WikiProject. Perhaps I should take the initiative to start one, and cover Singapore TV shows/movies? --J.L.W.S. The Special One 15:19, 18 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I can't see why it wouldn't, even though I cannot find any references to online games from a quick look at their listings. Have you brought up the WikiProject Singapore idea at the Noticeboard? You may find a few helpers. Establishing a WikiProject is a big thing and it is really a group thing in the end. Have fun! Ans e ll  00:10, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I noticed that the talk pages of Neopets, RuneScape and AdventureQuest have notices that they are part of the Computer and Video Games WikiProject. I also play Chip's Challenge, so that's 4 articles to work on. I will bring up the WikiProject Singapore idea at the noticeboard shortly. --J.L.W.S. The Special One 05:36, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

One more reason to stay
Hey Hildanknight, sorry to hear that the date your planning to leave Wikipedia is fast approaching - I do hope you reconsider! The trolling and vandalism can be kind of depressing sometimes, but when it gets to you, that's a good time to step back and work on those articles that you really want to work on.

Also, you mentioned that your school IP address gets blocked, which hinders your editing. I'm not sure if you know, but the blocking procedure was recently updated so that now when an IP address is blocked, it is able to only affect anonymous users, which should stop you from being blocked as collateral damage! I hope that that, along with other things, helps you to reconsider leaving, and you certainly have a lot to offer to Wikipedia. -- Nataly a 03:10, 18 July 2006 (UTC)


 * So WP:BPP has been implemented? That's great news! This means I don't have to worry about blocks when editing from home or school, and I can get all my schoolmates on Wikipedia. I now have 7 days to settle down and think about establishing my long-term future on Wikipedia, as I've decided not to leave (as long as I can find WikiProjects).


 * It's separate from WP:BPP, but you can read about the specifics at WP:BP, and it solves some of the same issues. Glad to hear that you're not going to leave!  There are always Wikiprojects that could use another dedicated user to help.  -- Nataly a  11:34, 18 July 2006 (UTC)


 * It's exactly what I wanted! I just hope that admins will remember to check "Block anonymous users only" when blocking User:202.156.6.54. I'm finding WikiProjects to join. --J.L.W.S. The Special One 15:19, 18 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Hello, we've never corresponded in the past, but I also wanted to encourage you to stay on Wikipedia. Towards that end, you may find this list of WikiProjects useful. Hope it helps!--Tachikom a 21:23, 18 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the link. I'll check it out. I'm staying. --J.L.W.S. The Special One 05:36, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

You were blocked by Tawker for the following reason (see our blocking policy): Autoblocked because your IP address has been recently used by "Qasqass". The reason given for Qasqass's block is: "vandalblock".

Your IP address is 202.156.6.54.

P.S. I thought such a thing would never happen again with the changes to the blocking procedure! --J.L.W.S. The Special One 05:36, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Funny. It seems I was suddenly unblocked after I posted this. (I know I can edit only my talk page - I tried to edit another article and discovered I was unblocked.) Thanks to the admin who unblocked me. --J.L.W.S. The Special One 05:40, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


 * The autoblocks wre removed, however the new blocking mechanism only affects directly blocked IPs, autoblocks will still have the same issues. --pgk( talk ) 07:15, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the information. Could the blocking mechanism be further revised so that autoblocks become optional? --J.L.W.S. The Special One 10:54, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

You were blocked by JzG for the following reason (see our blocking policy): Autoblocked because your IP address has been recently used by "DangerZoneYes". The reason given for DangerZoneYes's block is: "Pointless troll.".

Your IP address is 202.156.6.54.

The problem was not solved, I'm afraid. --J.L.W.S. The Special One 12:58, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


 * It should be okay now; I found the autoblock and it was already undone. Mango juice talk 14:37, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

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Wikiproject CVG
I noticed you started a list of members on WP:CVG, which I've since reverted. We used to have a list, but it became to large to keep on there so the member list is now at Category:WikiProject Computer and video games members. I'll go and add you in there right now. And thanks for joining ;) -- gakon5 16:30, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

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 * Thanks for telling me that the member list is in a category. I made my userpage redirect when I decided to leave Wikipedia, but since I've decided to stay, in August, I will work on a new userpage for myself, which will contain the userbox. (P.S. I know many with userpage redirects; I think your WikiProject should consider them too.) --J.L.W.S. The Special One 09:14, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Don't move comments
I noticed that you moved one of my comments around on this page. As a rule, refrain from editing others' comments without their permission. Although it may appear helpful to move them into a logical order, they should remain as they are so as not to change their meaning. My comment actually applied to the comment directly above mine, hence the location and indentation. For more details, see Talk page guidelines. Thanks, Jibbles | Talk 17:32, 22 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the advice; I'll bear that in mind. --J.L.W.S. The Special One 09:14, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks...
Hello Hildanknight &mdash; just a note to thank you for giving me feedback on my article about James Harford; much appreciated. I do think he's notable enough; colonial Governors were virtually Head of State, albeit (in his case) of small territories! I'll give some thought to expanding the list to prose paragraphs; thank you for that good idea.

Sorry to note that you're thinking about leaving Wikipedia &mdash; it's clear from your article on Google Groups that you're a good clear editor, but of course you must leave if you really want to; I hope you make the decision that makes you happiest. Best wishes, talkGiler S 11:15, 24 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Hello. You're most welcome. I hope you use the feedback to improve your editing skills. When writing future articles, remember to write in paragraphs, and avoid over-using lists. All the best in your quest to expand the James Hareford article, and in your time as a Wikipedian! After you expand the article, and do some polishing, you may want to nominate your article for Good Article.
 * I've decided to stay, because I realized I've done some great work on Wikipedia, and I intend to do much more great work. Thanks for inadvertently helping me with your post to Requests for feedback, as I created RFF. You could help me by improving and promoting RFF. My goals will be to get the two articles I wrote to Good Article status, working on my userpage, and joining WikiProjects to make steady contributions to many more articles.
 * --J.L.W.S. The Special One 13:43, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

My decision
25 July 2006 is the day of my decision. My decision is stay on Wikipedia.

Thanks to everyone for your encouragement and advice. I've realized I've done some great work on Wikipedia, and I want to do much more great work.

My task over the next few days will be to establish myself as a Wikipedian, and to sow the seeds of my future as a contributor. I've joined WikiProject Computer and Video Games. I am currently pushing for WikiProject Singapore, for my contributions to articles on Singapore TV shows/movies. And it is likely that I will join WikiProject Chess. I will also be working on my userpage.

Some unsettled issues may cause me to change my decision, and leave, though this is unlikely. The unsettled issues are that the purported solution to collateral damage caused by IP blocks has some problems (and thus I am still occasionally blocked as collateral damage, though not as often as previously), and whether my attempt to push for the creation of WikiProject Singapore succeeds or fails. In addition, User:Tdxiang, one of the few Wikipedians I have befriended in my short span here, has decided to leave Wikipedia.

Nevertheless, I hope these issues can be resolved, and I look forward to making a significant contribution to this great project. Cheers!

Would a kind admin please help me archive my talk page, and restore all the comments prior to the time I wanted to leave?

--J.L.W.S. The Special One 14:28, 25 July 2006 (UTC)