User talk:Hilikp

Greetings. In regard to the Pilates article, we cannot say that it is a method of "total body conditioning." We can say that Pilates people say that it is, but for a Wikipedia article to assert that it is would violate our policy of neutral point of view. I myself am a T'ai Chi Ch'uan teacher trained in China. We do things for the human body that Pilates people have never even considered with our training, we have literally thousands of years of research and development in what we do, yet I wouldn't allow such a claim at the T'ai Chi article either. Please also see What Wikipedia is not. Regards, Fire Star 21:35, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

ok, I see your point, you object to the "total body" not the method.


 * Exactly. I don't even object to saying that it purports itself to be a total body method. The reason I pared down the list of attributes was that I thought it was too long, I have no real objections to any of the words themselves, I just thought they overlapped a bit. As far as western exercises go, personally, I believe that real Pilates and the Alexander people are probably the best out there. They are just relatively young! Cheers, Fire Star 21:42, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

proper alignment, centering, concentration, control, precision, breathing, and flowing movement, are not a description, this is a list of the pilates principles as listed in pilates books. they are what the method is based on. each one counts for something. Hilikp 21:47, 7 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Perhaps we should have a few neutral lines explaining how each one of them fit Pilates' context? That would be interesting. Cheers, Fire Star 21:48, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

yes, we'll work on it. better yet, the proof is in the "session." have you experienced Pilates? it is not T'ai Chi Ch'uan, but it works. some things are hard to explain in words for the non literary person- but can be demonstrated in person. (not that I think everybody reading about Pilates should do it....
 * -) but I, of course, highly recomend it...

Hilikp 21:55, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

Greetings. Unless it will be longer than 32kb (which is quite long!) we could have the description of the principles as part of the Pilates article. The most logical candidate for a new article would be a separate biography of the founder of the method. The people who taught me T'ai Chi would be angry and disappointed with me if I were to take classes to study another method without their permission. It is a traditional Confucian teachers' attitude, like "What? Is what I'm showing you not good enough? Is it so incomplete that you have to supplement it from the outside?" It is almost an alien attitude to Westerners, and one of the biggest problems in translating and teaching orthodox Chinese martial arts to people who don't know about that expectation. So many Western (and even Asian, nowadays) T'ai Chi teachers reject the old teaching method, in doing so they unfortunately eviscerate the teaching itself, as well. From reading the discussion at Pilates I can see that there are similar problems with different branches of that system as well. Cheers, Fire Star 22:33, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

yes, indeed! there are similar problems.Hilikp 23:35, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

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 * Regards, Fire Star 22:43, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

thanks, we'll work on it.Hilikp 23:35, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

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