User talk:Hip Hop Therapist

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Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Hip-Hop Therapy


A tag has been placed on Draft:Hip-Hop Therapy requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be an unambiguous copyright infringement. This page appears to be a direct copy from https://www.hiphoptherapy.com/about-hip-hop-therapy. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites or other printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

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April 2019
There have been two problems with this account: the account has been used for advertising or promotion, which is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia, and your username indicates that the account represents a business or other organisation or group or a web site, which is also against policy, as an account must be for just one person. Because of those problems, the account has been blocked indefinitely from editing. Additionally, If you receive, or expect to receive, compensation for your contributions to Wikipedia, you must disclose who is paying you to edit.

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Unblock Request
Hip-Hop Therapy (talk) 17:41, 13 April 2019 (UTC) Hip-Hop Therapy (talk) 17:40, 13 April 2019 (UTC)}} Hip-Hop Therapy (talk) 17:39, 13 April 2019 (UTC)}} Hip-Hop Therapy (talk) 06:49, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

Username change request/ request for clarification
Hip-Hop Therapy (talk) 21:43, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
 * There are two main reasons why you're blocked. The first is because your username is the same as a website, which is against our username policy.  It looks like you've requested a new username, so that should be cleared up very soon.  The second issue is the promotional article that you created.  Anything can be promoted – a for-profit corporation, a non-commercial website, a documentary film about a social issue, a new form of therapy, or a charity.  The article that you wrote uses an inappropriate tone.  Words like "innovative", "profound", "inspired", "pioneering", etc do not belong on Wikipedia.  They are inherently non-neutral and are used to promote the subject of the article.  It looks like you may be close to the topic and have a conflict of interest.  The last issue, copyright issues, looks like it's being cleared up.  So, basically, what we need from you is an indication that you understand our rules and won't try to promote Hip Hop Therapy, much like we'd ask someone from a charity not to describe their charity as the most worthy one in the world.  If you'd like, you can simply reply below without opening a new unblock request. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 22:41, 13 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Ok, thank you for responding, I think I understand what you mean now in terms of taking an inappropriate tone with words such as those, and I can definitely use more neutral wording. I apologize for that, my intention is not to do anything other than provide information to the public regarding what Hip Hop Therapy is. It is a relatively new therapeutic approach, so I figured I would try to use my expertise in the field to create a page about it. I am definitely close to the topic as a mental health professional who uses it, but I believe that makes me a reliable source as opposed to someone clouded by a conflict of interest. I have researched the topic extensively, and have a wide array of scholarly, peer-reviewed sources that I have absolutely no attachment to. Hiphoptherapy.com is my website, though that was created to serve as a resource for practitioners looking for information on how to implement the approach. My intention is not to claim that Hip Hop Therapy is better than any other modality, it is just to provide information on it, but I can understand that the wording I used could be perceived as non-neutral. I would be happy to try to rephrase and resubmit if that would be allowed. I have never done this before, so I apologize for the beginner mistakes and if this has come across as ill-intentioned. I would prefer to keep my username, but if that is not allowed because I have a website with that same name, I understand. I just want to clarify though that there are other websites with that same name, and I by no means have exclusive rights to that term. It is not a brand or a trademark, it is simply a mode of therapy, much like music therapy or poetry therapy. If you can't create a username called music therapy and then post about music therapy, then it makes sense that I cannot use Hip Hop Therapy as a username. Is that how it works? Would making it less generic be more fitting, like Hip Hop Therapy Collective or something of that sort? I've proposed to change it to my real name, but in case that is taken already, I just would like to fully understand how the username impacts what a user can post about. Thank you for your time. Hip-Hop Therapy (talk) 23:35, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
 * If you can't the username you want, what about "Hip-Hop Therapy practitioner"? That makes it unambiguously about you, rather than a website or a group of people (such as a collective).  It seems to me like it'd fit our policies, and you could mostly keep the same username.  Your username won't affect what you can write about, but if you want to write about a friend, mentor, or colleague, it might be harder for you to stay neutral than for a disinterested person like me.  It's something to keep in mind when you write about this topic.  Of course, I wouldn't know what I'm talking about if I were to write an article about this topic, so that's the trade-off.  So, I guess my advice would be to pay attention to WP:COI and its advice, even if you think it doesn't apply to you.  The advice can still be helpful, even if it's assuming that you're a marketing guy for Sony. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 02:23, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
 * That sounds great, thank you so much for the advice, I am going to try Hip-Hop Therapist so it shows I am merely one practitioner and not an authority. That also makes sense about my mentor, I will definitely be particularly mindful not to let my personal opinion of him skew my commentary on his academic work. I will make sure to just state the facts (without flowery wording like innovative), including when he created the approach, how he envisioned it in his scholarly writings, and how it has been built upon by several practitioners over the years (all with citations of course). I will definitely review that COI page closely before trying to repost on the subject in order to ensure objectivity. Thank you again, I really appreciate all of your clarification on this.Hip-Hop Therapy (talk) 22:03, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I have changed your username, and I will let someone else review your request. 331dot (talk) 22:33, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Ok great, thank you very much. Hip-Hop Therapist (talk) 23:30, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
 * what do you think? I don't see a problem with unblocking.  The article was created as a draft, and if it's recreated there, it'll go through a review process.  Hip-Hop Therapist better understands our policies now and has agreed to follow them.  The username issues and copyright problems seem to have been addressed, too. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 23:35, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
 * This all looks good to me! ST47 (talk) 00:12, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for your consideration, I really appreciate it. Just to be sure on how to proceed, I should wait for a response regarding my declaration of consent before attempting to recreate the draft, right?Hip-Hop Therapist (talk) 03:42, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
 * If you want to use copyrighted text, yeah. If you start from scratch and don't use any of the original text, you can create a new article any time you want.  Just be careful that you don't copy text from other sources (or even make the new sentences look too similar to copyrighted text).  The way Wikipedia is licensed, it means that you suddenly have to care more than most people on the internet do about copyright. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 20:28, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Ok great, thank you very much for all your help throughout this process. I will definitely wait until I get confirmation that my declaration of consent is approved, just to be safe. Hip-Hop Therapist (talk) 15:41, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Looks like JJMC98 has done that https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft_talk%3AHip-Hop_Therapy&type=revision&diff=908172223&oldid=908171610
 * I have removed words that could be perceived as promotional and I've improved the references. Rong Qiqi (talk) PRO-WIKIPEDIA = ANTI-WMF 01:36, 28 July 2019 (UTC)