User talk:Hipal/Archive 45

Heartland
Thank you for reverting me. I would love to go over my proposed edits with you over on the Heartland Institute talk page. Trackerbot2291 (talk) 17:05, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Please do. --Ronz (talk) 19:35, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

List of climate change deniers listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect List of climate change deniers. Since you had some involvement with the List of climate change deniers redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Dmcq (talk) 00:29, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

I am not promoting Soap or anything else.
Hey, I hope You will be fine when You will receive my message. Today You reviewed one of my edited article and said that "Stop promoting soap as or something like it for Humaima Malic's page. So, I want to clear you that I am not promoting any soap or something like that but as I mentioned there about LUX and the reason for mentioning lux is that she has worked as their model so for reference I mentioned it. And the second thing which I want to clear is that I've got Humaima's personal information by contacting humaima through her manager. The information (old information) of humaima was not authentic there are a lot of false information posted there about humaima malick which can make impact on readers about humaima malick. That's why we (me & humaima) are editing the old article. I hope now you will get my point and will help us out about this problem. Best Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abbasizaibi (talk • contribs) 17:42, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for following up with me.
 * WP:SOAP: Wikipedia is not a venue for promotion. The material was blatantly promotional in content and presentation, which we should expect coming from her manager. Further, WP:BLP requires that material about living persons be attributable to verifiable reliable sources - We can't just assume it that the material is something her manager said. --Ronz (talk) 19:28, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I understand what you are saying dear :) But let me clear you one thing that her manager is not saying anything from himself but Humaima herself is worried about the old information about her which is published on wikipedia, Because it can create some problems for humaima that's why she gave me her original information through her manager. I removed the link of "Lux wikipedia page", which you were saying that I am promoting. Kindly please allow me to publish her new and original information.
 * Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abbasizaibi (talk • contribs) 04:54, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Kindly please allow me to publish her new and original information. I'm sorry, but you don't appear to understand at all. If you are not going to even attempt to provide sources, you'll just be blocked again.
 * I'm going to copy this to your talk page so it will be easier for others to find and comment on. --Ronz (talk) 14:22, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

Excuse me
Why did you revert one of my edits because of 'what was coming from it'--Armanikoka (talk) 11:34, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Take another look at your talk page. I wrote, "unsourced - given what's coming from this new account, best to be remove", meaning that the content did not include a reference, and given your contributions to date, I think it's best to remove it. --Ronz (talk) 15:23, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Greetings!
I wanted to say thank you for keeping an eye on my contributions! I'm trying my best here--Armanikoka (talk) 11:18, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Been busy but forgot to tell you...
About my edit to Remind Me by Royksopp. I didn't need to source what I wrote, I know different variants of house when I hear it. The remix is meant to be different - that's the point of a remix.--Armanikoka (talk) 21:46, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

Alexander Berzin (scholar) Comment
Hi, Ronz. Just looking at this article for the first time, I'm perplexed about your tag re supposed writing "like an advertisement" in it. I've read and reread the article and I can't work out what on earth you mean.

I note that the article is five years old and you're the first person who's had this problem with it. Your tag mentions problems with "promotional content", "inappropriate external links" and need for a neutral point of view. Please can you be specific. Otherwise, it's not possible for the rest of us to appreciate your qualms.

I hope you realise, this scholar is one of the foremost in Buddhist studies and Tibetan Buddhist studies in particular. Please can you also clarify what your own interest/ involvement is with Tibetan Buddhist studies.

Best wishes with your ongoing contributions.

Moonsell (talk) 01:44, 28 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Glad someone is interested in working on the article. Let's discuss on the article talk page. --Ronz (talk) 16:32, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks
for having the patience I lack :-) Alexbrn (talk) 17:43, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Tom Hardy (designer) - Encyclopedic Version
Ronz - See discussion on my Talk page - Thanks Dezignr (talk) 20:07, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

question re the Feingold Diet page
Hi Ronz, I am wondering why you removed the link to the Feingold Association website under the section "Further Reading." Since the page being edited is actually about the diet, isn't it reasonable to include a link to the only organization that has been teaching how to do the diet since 1976? If this were an article about the Flat Earth belief system, wouldn't we want a link to their website if they had one?Shulae (talk) 02:28, 16 August 2016 (UTC)
 * No to both examples per NOT (SOAP and NOTLINK), NPOV, and EL. --Ronz (talk) 19:09, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

Point taken but
Hi,

You recently removed my links from MyFreeCams and Chaturbate. I was not aware of the rules you mentioned.

However I would be surprised if any of the links to review sites are not COI.

Namely: "Top 10 porn sites in 2015". PornGatherer.com. Retrieved 2016-07-05. Jump up ^ "Chaturbate.com review". Webcamchamps.com. Retrieved 2016-08-23. Jump up ^ "Top 10 Free Adult Webcams Sites in 2015". Affairhub.com. Retrieved 2016-05-11.

Your more than welcome to provide a link to webcamsreviewed.com in a format that is acceptable. :-) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chickenhouse (talk • contribs) 10:15, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for responding Replying on your talk page. --Ronz (talk) 18:02, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

Photo of Coconut water vendor in Trinidad removed
I notice you have removed my photo of a coconut water vendor in Trinidad from two articles - the general one on Coconuts and the one on Coconut water. While I think you may have some slight justification for removing it from the general one on Coconuts - I think it is very relevant to have it in the article on Coconut water as it may well be of interest to readers to see how this refreshing drink was once marketed in the streets of Caribbean towns. I strongly believe the photo is not only relevant and interesting, but has historical value. So I have reverted your edit. If you don't agree, please write to me explaining your reasons before removing it again. Thank you, John Hill (talk) 01:38, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Can you say why the article is useful?
 * I made a few points, which I hope you can address:
 * First, that as it renders on the page, it's too hard to make out.
 * Second, at full resolution, it's unclear what it is.
 * Third, that the image subject matter is only tangentially related to the subject matter.
 * Perhaps we should discuss this on the article talk page to consolidate discussions and make it easier for others to join. --Ronz (talk) 14:59, 27 August 2016 (UTC)

Please do not add inappropriate external links to Wikipedia.
You reverted my changes to Michael Greger's page.

Could you explain why you think it's inappropriate to add a link to a page owned by the person of who the article is about?

My intent was simply to make his site more accessible to anyone reading the article.

Raneksi (talk) 19:13, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
 * No I didn't make the edit. I notified you of the relevant guideline. For the Greger article, see the specific section, WP:ELMINOFFICIAL. Looking closer at your editing, I think it would have been better just to identify ELMINOFFICIAL for you as a start. My apologies. --Ronz (talk) 19:52, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
 * OK, sorry about the confusion. I don't really care about the edit at this point. If someone feels the site is spammy and doesn't deserve to be linked, so be it. But now my talk page makes people think I'm spamming Wikipedia with links. Can the comment be removed? Raneksi (talk) 20:09, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Please do. I should have asked if it was okay for me to do so. --Ronz (talk) 20:12, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

Documenting Cloud Native Ambassadors program
Hi Ronz, you removed an edit I made on Lee Calcote about his participation in the Cloud Native Ambassadors program. I made a similar note on the launch of this program on the Linux Foundation page - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Linux_Foundation&diff=prev&oldid=737700903. I'm trying to document the purpose of the program and identify those involved. As I go to document other program participants, how should I phrase their participation such that it isn't labeled promotional/spam? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Orgedoneosy (talk • contribs) 21:57, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Please review WP:COI, which I think is fair to assume applies in this situation given that the sources are simple public relations pieces, and one hasn't even been published yet (according to Calcote's blog: http://blog.gingergeek.com/2016/09/cloud-native-ambassadors-and-docker-captains-navigate-users-through-the-container-ecosystem/)
 * At this point, it's not about phrasing at all, but about not using Wikipedia for promotion. Find sources completely independent from the Calcote and the program, then bring them up on the article talk page, Talk:Lee Calcote.
 * Note that the article itself is at risk of being deleted entirely. It would be best to work on establishing Calcote's notability first per WP:BIO. --Ronz (talk) 14:47, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

Miraheze on the list of wiki-farms
I noticed the removal of Miraheze at

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Comparison_of_wiki_hosting_services&type=revision&diff=734026558&oldid=733960973

I am new to Miraheze but in my five days there, I am really excited about it. See, for example

Colloquium

Is there anything I can do to get Miraheze back on the page? --Guy vandegrift (talk) 20:41, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
 * what's with this continued attempt to advertise Miraheze on WMF projects? The inclusion criteria has been explained multiple times - this inability to "get it" shows a real lack of competence -- samtar talk or stalk 20:54, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Not incompetence, just ignorance. I am not interested in advertising Miraheze but in using it.  I presume this explanation of thie inclusion criteria is on the article's talk page, and will look there right now.--Guy vandegrift (talk) 20:57, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Found it! Draft:Miraheze has already been started. Thanks to all who responded.--Guy vandegrift (talk) 21:08, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for working that out! --Ronz (talk) 17:00, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

False association with the Nath
According to British indologist James Mallinson, some scholars have been falsely associating hatha yoga with the Nath, Matsyendranath and Gorakshanath. In actuality hatha yoga is associated with the Dashanami Sampradaya and the mythical figure of Dattatreya. Read The Yogīs’ Latest Trick.VictoriaGraysonTalk 18:27, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Doesn't surprise me a bit. Minimally, it needs to be documented on the talk page. I'll head over there next. --Ronz (talk) 20:17, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

My user page is empty now
I am trying to find a way to publish methods that I invented 20 years ago, and many software vendors use today. The methods are described in my articles. You can see traces of these methods any time you install a program and are asked for permission to track your work for improving the program. Also, you can see these methods in many website analyzers. These vendors do not admit that they use my methods, but you can learn about them by reading my articles.

I believe Wikipedia should make people know about these methods. There is no COI. I want to advertise the methods, not myself. To start, I emptied my user page (I was thinking that the user page should be used to convince that I am entitled to write about certain topics).

I would appreciate your advice about how to publish these methods, without mentioning my own contribution. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Avi Harel (talk • contribs) 18:48, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks.
 * There's absolutely a COI. I'm sorry you don't understand. --Ronz (talk) 20:29, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
 * I hope I do understand now. I consider removing all the links to my articles, so non of them is mentioned on the problematic pages. Will this solve the COI issue? Then, I will add explanations to show that the pages are still notable. Do you think this can work? Avi Harel (talk) 04:44, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Let's get a COIN discussion started. I'm having a very hard time assuming you are not just trolling me, which isn't helpful. Let's get some others involved. --Ronz (talk) 14:58, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

Thank you
I see the note that you removed my edit to the Feng Shui page. I'm still learning. I'll look for better references. Donnastellhorn (talk) 04:15, 12 September 2016 (UTC)Donna Stellhorn
 * You are welcome. I'm happy to review any other sources you want to consider using. --Ronz (talk) 15:35, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

Mehndi designs
Hi Ronz, Was about to reach out to you as well regarding the same. In full disclosure, I'm affiliated with the site that was linked to. The said page on the site has a curated collection of mehndi designs shared and sourced by users (as opposed to editorial addition) on the website and its app. Given this, I was under the impression it will be a value add to anyone visiting the page to know about mehndi. From our end, we have also worked with a lot of mehndi artists in India to come up with answers that will be useful to mehndi hobbyists on the same page. I was going to ask you if there's any specific changes we can make to the page that would make it suitable and handy to visitors of the wiki page here. If you are proactively managing the page I leave the call to you on what you consider best for it. The page that I added is here - www.ethnicoapp.com/mehndi, you'll also find info such as this - http://www.ethnicoapp.com/ethnico-42-intricate-full-hand-mehndi-designs-for-festival-season-u910632 which can be referenced for the Indian festival of Karva Chauth on the site. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.140.222.30 (talk) 14:46, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for contacting me and explaining the situation.
 * I'll take a closer look at the situation later, but I don't have any recommendations at this time. Have you reviewed WP:EL and WP:NOT already? --Ronz (talk) 14:58, 26 September 2016 (UTC)