User talk:Historiannz

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George Stead
Thanks for expanding George Stead. I offer some feedback:
 * The moment you add or delete content, it's not a minor edit. Ticking that box has a particular meaning and either don't tick it or else, you can read up what it's for at WP:MINOR. This is a "minor issue", as it were.
 * If you want to use a particular reference more than once, there is a way to do this. Adding the full reference more than once isn't the right way to go about it. WP:REFNAME explains how to do that. Not the biggest problem on earth; just so you know.
 * I shall remove the section 'Early life' as it's almost word-for-word from DNZB. This is a major issue; copyright violations aren't looked on lightly. Don't do that again; it's one of the fastest ways of getting into real trouble on Wikipedia.

Apart from that slip up, that's good work. Keep it up and if you have questions about anything, don't hesitate to come to my talk page.  Schwede 66  06:56, 31 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi there, thanks for the feedback on my edits of George Stead, and especially your feedback on the use of copyright material.
 * May I ask for some information on the nuances of "Creative Commons".
 * I see the older biography of Stead on the University of Victoria site:
 * https://nzetc.victoria.ac.nz/tm/scholarly/tei-Cyc03Cycl-t1-body1-d3-d52-d18.html
 * has the following licence: Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 New Zealand Licence
 * https://nzetc.victoria.ac.nz/tm/scholarly/tei-NZETC-About-copyright.html#ccbysa
 * This appears to say that as long as one correctly attributes the source material, one can "re-use material in our texts".
 * 1) Does this mean I can quote the source material verbatim? (with the correct attribution)
 * 2) Can I reuse the source material in a form substantially the same but with minor stylistic changes? (with the correct attribution)
 * I will appreciate your assistance with this and look forward to your reply. Historiannz (talk) 06:12, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Answer to these questions is: Yes, that is a permissible license and you can absolutely reuse it as long as it's correctly attributed. In theory, at least. In practice, you can't; at least not this source. The Cyclopedia of New Zealand explains why: the bios were "unashamedly promotional" as they were mostly written by the subjects themselves. No trouble using this content when it comes to geographic items, though. Another source that's freely licensed is PapersPast; not the newspaper content but the write-up about the individual newspapers. I wrote New Zealand Gazette and Wellington Spectator with the sole purpose of showing others that it can be done, and how it needs to be attributed.  Schwede 66  06:47, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the prompt reply.
 * Am I understanding you correctly, that to use biographical material from The Cyclopedia of New Zealand I will need to take into account that it may be self-promotional, and as a result verify any information to ensure it is accurate?
 * Cheers Historiannz (talk) 09:13, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes. I’ve come across the case of a Christchurch mayor where they fabricated a background that simply wasn’t true. The family had left England because they were poor and had no economic prospect. That was not how they wanted to be known as so they made something up.  Schwede 66  19:26, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
 * BTW, you should not force line breaks by inserting HTML code. You create line breaks by hitting 'Enter' twice while editing.  Schwede 66  03:50, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
 * OK, cheers, I will take out the paragraph tags Historiannz (talk) 03:56, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Done already. You should be able to see in your Watchlist what's going on (assuming that you've added Stead to your Watchlist). Say if you don't know what a Watchlist is (too important not to know about it).  Schwede 66  04:04, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

Welcome!

 * Thanks for the prompt reply.
 * Am I understanding you correctly, that to use biographical material from The Cyclopedia of New Zealand I will need to take into account that it may be self-promotional, and as a result verify any information to ensure it is accurate?
 * Cheers Historiannz (talk) 09:09, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

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