User talk:HistoricJerseyGuy

Copyright problems with The Grain House Restaurant
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Hi my name is Gabriel Tajes and i am the Marketing Cordinator of the Olde Mill Inn and Grain House Restaurant as you can confirm here http://www.oldemillinn.com/contact.html i was the one creating the content that i tried to publish on Wikipedia. Please allow me to or tell me what to do. Thanks a lot!

Gabriel Tajes


 * Hello Gabriel, the answer to your question should be in Donating copyrighted materials. As copyright is not the only issue here, I also strongly advise you to consider Conflict of interest. Melchoir (talk) 07:45, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of The Grain House Restaurant
This article will be deleted again - but please give me a minute and I will explain the situation below.  7   talk &#124; &Delta; &#124;   08:02, 11 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Have you read through the notes that were sent to you 15 minutes ago, just above this section?  As written there there are multiple issues with what you are trying to do:


 * 1) Copyright - Another editor above posted you a description of how to donate copyrighted material - but the next two are bigger issues.
 * 2) Conflict of Interest] - Because you are affiliated with the company you will have trouble righting about it in a neutral, unbiased manner.
 * 3) Using Wikipedia for Advertising or Promotion - because you are the marketing director for the company it is clear that your goal is to advertise.   This is against policy, plain and simple.   Please see WP:WHYNOT for reasons why other companies may have articles here but yours doesn't.
 * 4) Notability - if all the issues above went away, and an uninvolved third-party wanted to right about the company then it would still need to survive the notability requirements, which I do not believe that it does.

Please review those policies and please do stay and contribute to Wikipedia on other articles where you don't have a conflict. I've added a menu of these policies and others to the top of your page.  7   talk &#124; &Delta; &#124;   08:08, 11 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi thank you very much for your prompt answer.
 * 1 i will donate the materials so there will be no copyright problems.
 * 2 I am affiliated with the company but the paper was review it by the Somerset Hills Historical Society to make it neutral, and it is.
 * 3 i am in marketing so i am the only one on charge of keep the history of the Grain House alive. Again i am not promoting it, or trying to advertise, that's why i didn't include the exactly address there, and thats why i have asked to the Somerset Hills Historical Society to review it.
 * 4 The Grain house has been declared a Historic Place and you can confirm that directly with the Somerset Hills Historical Society, so i think that that will help with the Notability issue.


 * Please let me know what else can i do to have this published.
 * Thanks for your collaboration on this matter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HistoricJerseyGuy (talk • contribs)


 * First - two quick comments (my pet peeves):
 * Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by clicking [[Image:Signature_icon.png]] or by typing four tildes "~&#126;"; this will automatically produce your name and the date.
 * To help with readability you can add a colon ":" in front of each line that you edit to indent it. For example, this is a reply to a reply so it's indented twice.  I've indented yours above.


 * Now - to your point - I've read http://www.oldemillinn.com/documents/ghhistoryletterszie2009_001.pdf and I don't think there is any way that this will satisfy WP:NPOV or WP:SPAM. Especially with wording like:  The new owners continue the tradition of affordable excellence....  Also, as I read it, the only thing that may be considered notable is the Childs family and their restaurant chain - but not this one specific building (regardless of NHP designation).  I would suggest you consider posting this at WP:Requested articles and disclose your conflict of interest to them, but explain why you think there should be a Wikipedia article about it and see if anyone picks it up.  Regards.     7   talk &#124; &Delta; &#124;   08:34, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

":" ok i got it, and i see your point, i will work on that and i will talk to the Society so they can make the article. The GH has a lot of history and it is very interesting, i will follow your advise. can i send you a draft when is done so you can review it? Thanks a lot--HistoricJerseyGuy (talk) 08:45, 11 August 2009 (UTC)


 * A semicolon without the quotes...   Sure you can contact me on my talk page - but you may get faster reponse at WP:Requested Articles   7   talk &#124; &Delta; &#124;   08:55, 11 August 2009 (UTC)