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December 2023
Hello, I'm AntiDionysius. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Francisco Solano López, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. AntiDionysius (talk) 22:16, 6 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @AntiDionysius Examples of chroniclers who misdated the birth of Francisco Solano López would be: George Thompson (author of "The War un Paraguay"), George Frederick Masterman (Author of "Seven evenfull years in Paraguay"), Charles Ames Washburn, United States Ambassador to Paraguay (Author of "The history of Paraguay"), among others. History lover70 (talk) 22:31, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
 * OK. Do you have a source? AntiDionysius (talk) 22:49, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @AntiDionysius Yes, I sent it here twice, but the messages were not sent through the link. What he said was that the Paraguayan newspapers of the time dated 1827 as Solano López's date of birth. But what Many chroniclers put 1826 as the wrong date because it had to do with a rumor that claimed that Francisco was not the son of Carlos Antonio López and that he was the product of an extramarital relationship. See the authors of the books that I gave you examples, they were all opponents of López. I also wanted to tell you that I was going to add the source but my edit had been reverted before I could post it. Later, in 1977, the Paraguayan Academy of History officially defined 1827 as the official date. I don't know why it won't let me send you the link. If I can send it to you so you can add it, I would greatly appreciate it. History lover70 (talk) 23:13, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @AntiDionysius I am knowledgeable on the subject regarding the Paraguayan War and Francisco Solano López, likewise I am Paraguayan by birth, I do not know how I am going to send him the link of the source because It won't let me send it. History lover70 (talk) 23:17, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
 * On Wikipedia we don't really deal in things like "knowledgeable on the subject" or taking someone's nationality as a reason to trust what they say. Things need to be sourced, from academic articles, books, news sources, reputable websites etc. The Paraguayan Academy of History sounds like it would be a good source. You can paste the link here, by enclosing it in square brackets like so: AntiDionysius (talk) 23:41, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @AntiDionysius I thank you very much for clarifying this for me, but I said it about my nationality only to get into the topic. Here is the link: History lover70 (talk) 23:46, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @AntiDionysius History lover70 (talk) 23:47, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @AntiDionysius I think it didn't let me send it again despite the brackets, but I already published my edit there, I would really appreciate it if you could verify it. History lover70 (talk) 23:49, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes I got it, thank you. And thanks for adding it to the article. I've reformatted it to look a little prettier, and added a second source for good measure. If you need help formatting sources in future, see WP:REFB. AntiDionysius (talk) 00:09, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @AntiDionysius I thank you very much for your kindness, I apologize if I have wasted your time or bothered you. Really thank you very much. History lover70 (talk) 03:38, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

Your edit to Francisco Solano López
A source, in Wikipedia, means a definite document. "Historiography" is not a source, only a vague assertion. It's like saying "The history books are in my favour"" which is worth nothing. You can find more information at Reliable sources.Ttocserp 22:31, 6 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @Ttocserp I understand. But the problem does not lie only in the date, but has to do with a rumor that speculated that Francisco Solano López was not really the son of Don Carlos Antonio López product of an extramarital relationship. paraguayan newspapers of the time how "The weekly" ("el semanario" in spanish) or "the sentinel" ("el centinela") They date the birth of Francisco Solano López in 1827. finally in 1977 the paraguayan academy of history officially defined 1827 as the official date of Solano López birthday. History lover70 (talk) 23:05, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, the sources differ. The correct way to deal with that on Wikipedia is to give both versions impartially.  Wikipedia itself is neutral.  What an editor is not allowed do is suppress one source because he prefers the other.  Your source Portal Guaraaní is rather thin by international standars, however, so I shall look further and do some more work.  In the meantime I shall put both versions.Ttocserp 00:08, 7 December 2023 (UTC)