User talk:Hjhiggins

Global Impact
And I've reverted you again. Please, read WP:V. Just because you know it's 58 doesn't make it encyclopedic. We must be able to verify it. You are still editing in violation of WP:COI. Please STOP. --Hammersoft (talk) 19:52, 4 February 2011 (UTC) I haven't been on wiki in years. I can't remember how to talk to you. I have been looking. I'm sure this is incorrect. Hjhiggins (talk) 20:18, 4 February 2011 (UTC) I noticed that the information about Global Impact is outdated and wanted to fix it. I do work for the organization. How can I provide verifications? Hjhiggins (talk) 20:20, 4 February 2011 (UTC) Oh good! Standing by. Thank you!Hjhiggins (talk) 20:22, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok, I've reverted you again, as the ref you provided is vague. Your efforts are in good faith, and I appreciate that but can you please stop for the moment and talk with me? --Hammersoft (talk) 20:14, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Actually, that worked :) More in a moment. --Hammersoft (talk) 20:20, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Editing articles for organizations that you work for is usually discouraged. If you're going to add material to Global Impact, it MUST be well cited in order to sustain scrutiny from a conflict of interest perspective. Again, WP:V is gospel on this point. COI also makes good reading on this point. For citing, you should read Citing sources. --Hammersoft (talk) 20:23, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
 * My next reply may be delayed, but ask away. --Hammersoft (talk) 20:23, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! We are nonprofit and really don't have anyone who can update this content for us. I will read the citing sources instructions. Hjhiggins (talk) 20:25, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

I just added the actual page where the charities are listed. Does that meet WP:V ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hjhiggins (talk • contribs)
 * One, don't forget to sign your comments :) Two, that's better but there's a citation error. I'll fix it, so you know how to do it in the future. Hang on. --Hammersoft (talk) 20:49, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok fixed. Have a look. Also, see Template:Cite web. Keep in mind moving forward; since you are editing in conflict of interest, anything you add really must be cited. Also, secondary sources are preferred over primary sources. See SECONDARY. What this means is that simply adding a bunch of material from your web site, and citing that site as the reference, isn't going to be acceptable. Your web site is a primary source. --Hammersoft (talk) 20:58, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Oh right, forgot to sign off. Sorry. It looks great. Thank you for fixing that. It's just that some of the language is inaccurate and outdated. I completely understand that the content shouldn't be what we have on our site. We just want to make sure the information is correct. I'll read the SECONDARY to make sure we're complying. Thank you again!Hjhiggins (talk) 21:08, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Just remember that "correct" isn't necessarily what we're after. Truth is not the same as verifiable, and we prefer secondary sources for verifiability. Just remember you're dancing a VERY fine line on COI edits. --Hammersoft (talk) 21:16, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Got it. If I added all the member charities other than Echo under Members and referenced it with this link http://www.charity.org/Member_Charities that would serve as a good verification? Hjhiggins (talk) 21:29, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Or would it be better to cite a news release that was picked up by a wire service< Hjhiggins (talk) 21:34, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't think adding all the members to the article is good article writing. WP:INDISCRIMINATE applies here. --Hammersoft (talk) 22:05, 4 February 2011 (UTC)