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Welcome to my watchlist ;) Jack Merridew 13:06, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

July 2010
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Voting on Al Gore Talk Page
Hi Frances, Just wondering if you'd like to vote on the Al Gore issue. I have set up a little voting section here, and I am sending this note to everyone who participated on the talk page. --Regards KeptSouth (talk) 00:07, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you, Frances.

--Zutam (talk) 23:06, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

Truth is I am not used to my work being summarily thrown out... it only happened to me once before, in first grade. I was on my way out, but because of your message...

On the other hand, I enjoy a challenge and a dialog with wise people, this attracts me.

--Zutam (talk) 14:53, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Other accounts
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 * Be careful Spartaz; calling someone a sockpuppet (as you did here) without having solid evidence could be considered a personal attack. If you have hard evidence that this person is a sockpuppet of a particular editor (rather than just "somebody") you can start a formal Sockpuppet Investigation. Otherwise, it's probably best just to not say anything. Saying, in effect, "I know you're a sock, but I don't know who you're a sock of" is generally frowned upon in Wikipedia, in my experience. Stonemason89 (talk) 20:48, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I already finished this conversation and FHBTSG has provided an explanation. I'm happy, they are happy and I deleted the spi that someone started. So what is the point of this? Spartaz Humbug! 20:55, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh sorry; I didn't see the rest of the conversation (I didn't realize the conversation had ended, actually). Was it continued on some other page? I was merely perusing this talk page since FHBTSG had recently edited Beck University, which I started, so I wanted to see if he/she was a new user. That's when I saw your message, which struck me as a little odd. However, if the matter has been cleared as you say it has, I don't think we need to discuss it any further. Stonemason89 (talk) 20:57, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Username
Have you considered changing your username to something shorter? Your signature, when you make comments in various talk pages, is so long that it is rather distracting. Also, if someone happens to need to revert your edit or to revert back to your edit, your username fills out a large portion of the edit summary box. Nsk92 (talk) 20:34, 12 July 2010 (UTC)


 * At least edit your User page, that might help if it blended into the woodwork. Mlpearc   powwow  21:16, 12 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you :-) P.S. it's not that bad, lol.  Mlpearc   powwow  21:23, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Please do not try to circumvent WP:BLP
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Deseret Book 1980 logo
I am just curious why you changed the caption on this image from "1980-2010" to "1980 on"? Deseret Book has clearly changed their logo based on their website, catalog, and flagship store in Salt Lake City. I would think the logo's official life is over this year, not in the indefinite future when the last item with that logo is available. Based on the mindset of beginning of life "on," every logo would be some date "on." I'd appreciate your thoughts. —GreenwoodKL (t, c) 22:11, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Category Letter-word combinations as see also
It's one thing to create the category, it's another thing to add it as a "see also" to every article in the category. The category is insufficiently related to the subjects to be in see also. Please stop adding it to articles and remove it from the ones you've already put it on. Yworo (talk) 14:44, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Please see Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Disambiguation. Thanks. -- Quiddity (talk) 20:38, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Entries on disambiguation pages
When adding entries to a disambiguation page, please make sure the entry contains at least on blue-link. For example, your edits on Knowlton] or Moyer added a person's name but did not include a link. Cheers. older ≠ wiser 19:10, 23 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Actually, looking into this a bit further, I see you had been creating pages for the persons' names as redirects to the disambiguation pages. That is really not appropriate. The disambiguation page should link a reader to an existing article with further information about the subject. That is, the disambiguation page should not be the only information about the topic in Wikipedia. older ≠ wiser 19:19, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

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Restoring Honor rally
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Trigger happy mouse finger
Sorry bout that. Thanks for adding the under construction tag so I keep my trigger finger off of it. So much POV pushing on both sides going on there that I got a little too quick on the draw. Millahnna (talk) 08:05, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

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DYK for Restoring Honor rally
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Just curious
I'm just curious about your recent addition of Category:Mormon studies to List of sects in the Latter Day Saint movement. To me this seems to fit very well and is a logical addition. However I noticed you put the list it the Category then removed it very quickly. I would have left it in, so I’m wondering what you know that I don’t?--ARTEST4ECHO talk 13:46, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

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ANI thread
Please see here. It isn't really about you so much as it is a request for help because of my self-acknowledged lack of tact. Thanks. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 02:14, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Please reconsider
I dont think its appropriate that you as the major contributor to the article decide to close the afd. . Active Banana   ( bananaphone  21:00, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I posted a request for a third party to review and they agreed with your closure. Active Banana   ( bananaphone  21:48, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanx
Good Work The Resident Anthropologist (talk) 02:33, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Ines Sainz
Thanks for all your hard work in bringing sourced content to the article. Nice job! Active Banana    (bananaphone  17:59, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

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 * Will you be responding to the mediation request? AGK   10:16, 6 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Just read your message on my talk page :). Don't worry, mediation can be confusing at times. If you read the initial post, you'll see that it says "Please review the request page"; click the 'request page' link, which takes you to the mediation request. Scroll down to the "Parties' agreement to mediation" section of that page, edit the section, and add  # Agree. ~  underneath the other parties' agreements. Then you'll have agreed and you need do nothing more. Hope this helps, AGK   14:18, 6 October 2010 (UTC)


 * I see you figured it out after my message, so you need do nothing more for now. Thanks, AGK   14:19, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

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Restoring Honor Mediation
Greetings!

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Jon Stewart quote
Hi. I agree that the quote box is a nice touch, however, MOS says to not include the quote marks. —UncleDouggie (talk) 01:29, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Anderson Cooper's t-shirt
The medal actually was presented to a t-shirt. I rather doubt it was really Cooper's, but Colbert acted as if it was, so it's not an in absentia award. Zuckerberg's medal is the only one that wasn't accepted, so far as I recall. —UncleDouggie (talk) 08:18, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Indefinite Block of BS24
BS24 is on indefinite block for abusing multiple accounts. This editor has had many socks and is likely to return under a new account. The Artist AKA Mr Anonymous (talk) 17:49, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Diplomas
Yes, Exeter is 'old school' in some regards. I wasn't in classics so had never heard of this, but am checking with friends. It appears to be correct though. MarmadukePercy (talk) 02:19, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Just checked, and you are indeed correct about the classical diplomas. My error. MarmadukePercy (talk) 02:24, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Mitchell
Thanks for editing that Mitchell article, fixing mistakes etc, Wombat24 (talk) 07:35, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Zuckerberg and philanthropy
My god, Hodgson, a cataclysmic event has occured. I agree with your changes to the article. I just didn't want you to think I always disagree with you. :-) Well done.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:15, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

David Brian Mitchell
Why has the page gone into the Elizabeth Smart kidnapping page? If wikipedia has separate articles on the Lindbergh kidnap and Bruno Hauptmann (the criminal kidnapper) surely the same standard should apply to the Mitchell and the Elizabeth Smart Kidnapping? otherwise you'd also have to join the Bruno bio with the Lindbergh kidnapping. Or should this issue go to moderation? Wombat24 (talk) 01:48, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

I think you are mistaken in your interpretation of wp:ONEVENT, ie "The general rule in many cases is to cover the event, not the person. However, as both the event and the individual's role grow larger, separate articles become justified"  Surely now that Mitchell is convicted and covered extensively in the courts and media his role has grown larger and the event certainly has grown larger since 2003. Also as before the Lindburg case established a standard for wikipedia or precedent and it has 3 separate articles, for the crime, for the criminal, and the victim. Plus Ottis and many other criminals have separate articles although they are technically known for only one crime. Plus the bio in the Smart kidnapping article surely makes the article substandard and confusing to follow. What do you think? and maybe its better to get a third person involved to resolve this matter, what do you think? Wombat24 (talk) 03:06, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Re from my page:


 * Not sure if I follow your thinking here. All I want to see is, like the Lindbergh kidnapping which was the most famous one in the 20th century, this one as probably the most famous in the 21st century will likewise have 3 pages or 3 articles. As long as people who hear about Mitchell can google the name and go to his bio then it should be ok. The stats from yesterday before the verdict show that some 6.1k people read the Mitchell article when most days it was just a few hundred so they were specifically looking for him or an article on him, hence wikipedia is useful to them. But true, that linking only has low numbers going across pages but many will look for the names separately not by links, however the links should still be there as an option I believe. Wombat24 (talk) 08:49, 11 December 2010 (UTC)


 * on we:otherthingsexistI understand it to be that "When used correctly...comparisons are important as the encyclopedia should be consistent in the content that it provides or excludes" so hence if there are separate articles for the Lindbergh case and the criminal then the same standard should be a go for the smart kidnapping and Mitchell, as I see it Wombat24 (talk) 08:49, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

ps, one thing we do need to work out is how much information on the trials, competency and criminal, stays on the elizabeth smart kidnapping page and how much goes into the bio page for mitchell. Again i'd say the Lindbergh case should be the standard to follow, what do you think? (since very few others are involved in this editing) Wombat24 (talk) 08:57, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Delete page Mitchell
Please don't delete that page. They trial was US vs Mr Mitchell not Miss Smart. And, again, wikipedia is full of articles of single criminal know for one crime or one event but who are covered enough all in the media to justify a bio page, eg, Ottis Tool, Bruno Hauptmann, Curtis Alger and many more.But Mitchell has gone viral, articles on him are in many news media across the world plus the references have article on him only like "the making of Immanuel" and so on. But if you do manage to get this page deleted then you surely must delete the Bruno Hauptmann one too Wombat24 (talk) 09:08, 11 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Maybe we should only be discussing the merge and not delete too, but both tags are up there. Can you please delete one of them, preferably leave it for discussion for a merge since you are arguing that point and not a deletion per say Wombat24 (talk) 10:00, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Jimmy Carter?
Didn't know he had any supporters. I prefer Silent Cal, Spotty Abe, we like Ike, and Washington. Since you believe in revealing political leanings, I'm Classical Liberal with strong beliefs in fiscal responsibility.--AerobicFox (talk) 23:52, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I like Carter too, & FDR ;-) Liberal here too, with Pro-Life leanings. DocOfSoc (talk) 04:38, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I am truly amazed that we have had no edit conflicts today, good teamwork! Does "Hodg" work for you? Better than Whatever or Hog! LOL! Have a great night, day? DocOfSoc (talk) 06:00, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Would I mind if you post my criminal-crime schemata as a WP essay?
Thanks for the encouragement! I'd rather you didn't post it just yet. I do think it would be valuable (not to blow my own horn too much), but I also think it could be simplified. A good essay needs easily understandable and quotable messages at its core, which I don't think this has just yet.

I totally don't mind you having a hand it it, though (this is a wiki after all). Would you might if I took a short while, posted a draft and then you can critique it and knock it about? --FormerIP (talk) 01:59, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Looking into this, but I must tell you upfront that I prefer to see a separate bio page for any well known criminal. I think the extent and horror of their crimes need to be known by others Wombat24 (talk) 08:39, 26 December 2010 (UTC)


 * I guess the main thing with "death of..." v "murder of..." v "homicide of..." etc is establishing the legal status of the event, which would just be a matter for talkpage consensus. Why not "Murder of John F Kennedy" I can't say, although I expect it has been debated. For recent events as with Michael Jackson, perhaps the title will change as and when a definitive picture develops. --FormerIP (talk) 01:29, 31 December 2010 (UTC)


 * I did a userpage draft: User:FormerIP/Crime. Please do take a look and leave comments. Negative ones included. --FormerIP (talk) 16:42, 5 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi again. It was pointed out elsewhere that there is actually a guideline covering some of this. Because of that, I've posted here, just in case you want to look: Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(people) --FormerIP (talk) 23:48, 6 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I haven't so much proposed contents from my essay as invited discussion about two things. Firstly, it seems to me that there's a loophole in the current guideline that should be closed, whatever else is or isn't done. It reads as if there is a higher-than-normal WP:N standard for criminals, but when you scratch the surface, the guidance actually allows criminals to be judged by the same notability standards as anyone else.
 * Secondly, looking at the pattern of how crime-related pages are actually named it seems clear that WP:N isn't the main deciding factor (ie very famous criminals often don't get their own article, whereas marginally notable ones often do). The pattern seems instead to reflect the operation of WP:N working together with WP:CFORK and the latter having the leading role. My proposition would be that that appears to be how the community likes it and it works, so the guidance should be changed to reflect that. --FormerIP (talk) 19:34, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

WP:DERM:MA
We are always looking for more help with the dermatology task force, particularly with the ongoing Bolognia push in which we are making sure Wikipedia has an article on every cutaneous condition. With that being said, I wanted to know if you would be willing to help with the Bolognia push? I can e-mail you the login information if you like? There is still a lot of potential for new articles and redirects. ---My Core Competency is Competency (talk) 23:19, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Mitchell
C'mon Hodgson?? why are you doing this to the Mitchell article. Now it looks dumb with two biographies, a timeline of the kidnapping that should be in the kidnapping article, things like Ricci's death which wasn't related to Mitchell at all, and PLUS we have been through this argument of joining the kidnapping article with the Mitchell bio article and the result was to keep them separate. So can you, please, fix this up and put the kidnapping things back where they belong? please? We have already settle this argument, or rather an administrator did after we all discussed the matter. Redirecting the kidnapping article to this Mitchell bio one doesn't fool anyone.Wombat24 (talk) 13:08, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Udall, Udall, & Reid
I think the count is three. #17 Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid D-NV, #72 Mark Udall D-CO, & #73 Tom Udall D-NM. But good Riposte. :D Dru of Id (talk) 21:22, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

TLC
Sorry for my overlapping editing on "the chart" at WP:MOSLDS. I just wanted to tell you that TLC members may also be called "fundamentalist Mormons", so we may want to move them up the chart to place them under AUB members. I would probably just mess up the chart if I tried to do it, so I thought I would just let you know here. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:17, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
 * We are on the same wavelength I think. I was making this edit at approximately the same time you were, and when I saved it I got an edit conflict. Ha! Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:58, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

EXCELLENT JOB!!!
Congrats on the superior job you did in creating and posting the "table of denominations" in the List of denominations in the Latter Day Saint movement article. That was really sharp-looking, informative, and first-class, all the way. It really enhances the article; thanks again for your contribution!! - Ecjmartin (talk) 11:58, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

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Talkback
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Nomination of Moose knuckle for deletion
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User:Hodgson-Burnett's Secret Garden/Visible penis line
✅ Spartaz Humbug! 17:50, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

vandalism?
Could you look at this edit of mine which was reverted as "vandalism" and let me know if you think my sourced additions actual were vandalism? I am coming to dout someone's sanity here. Thanks. μηδείς (talk) 05:46, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Moose Knuckle
You are not going to get anywhere trying to rename cameltoe. I suggest a section under cameltoe with the header moose knuckle which explains that this is an alternative term and that it is used for men as well. Moose knuckle should redirect to that section under cameltoe. μηδείς (talk) 18:52, 14 June 2011 (UTC)


 * User:DMacks speedily deleted your redirect, even though the vote was tied on the AfD between delete (4) and keep (2) / merge (2). Second, the term existed on the Cameltoe page before Moose knuckle existed.  This deletion of the redirect is improper since if anything it should go to wiktionary if not cameltoe.  I suggest you appeal this somewhere.  I complained to User:DMack myself, maybe he'll say where to take it up. μηδείς (talk) 21:00, 14 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, none of the criteria for deleting a redirect applies, and the fact that an article of the same name had been deleted does not apply. I found a scholar source for moose knuckle = camel toe, see http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1529-8019.2010.01348.x/full will try to get pdf.  Please discuss here, will watch here. μηδείς (talk) 02:03, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

You might considering notifying the people who voted on the AfD to comment on the RfD.

I can't get access to the article I posted above through my current institutional affiliation, but may be able to some time in the future from my alma mater. But the snippet does give camel toe and moose knuckle as synonyms for vulva. See the sources I listed at the RfD. μηδείς (talk) 03:29, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Homer links
Thank you for contributions. I would suggest that appropriate link for one row in the table of English translations of Homer is a wikilink rather than a 'see also' or a direction for further info. These are used for an whole relevant articles. Thank you Span (talk) 23:30, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

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Hi. What are you trying to accomplish with this change? It looks awful in my browser (Firefox) with ugly word wrap everywhere. Before it looked fine. Wasted Time R (talk) 11:47, 31 January 2012 (UTC)


 * The wrap problem is fixed now. But why the asterisk on the table title that links to the caption right below it?  It's obvious that the caption explains the table, adding this is just unnecessary visual clutter.  Wasted Time R (talk) 12:03, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

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I've doubt my doubts about your licensing for File:George and Lenore Romney in 1962.gif. How do you know this was published without a copyright notice? Maybe it was taken by a professional photographer who was a friend of theirs or who worked for AMC. Photos can be copyrighted without having a "©" visible anywhere.

On the other hand, I think File:Romney in 68.jpg can more safely be licensed as PD-textlogo, which I've seen done for other campaign logos of this form. I've gone ahead and done that on Commons. Wasted Time R (talk) 13:15, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Seamus (dog)
Thanks you for providing me with these discussion results. When we were having the AfD for Seamus, I became increasingly concerned about merger that editors would never agree how to merge the Seamus article in the Mitt Romney article. I'm not sure if I want another review, but how do you do a merger review?? Is it the same as a deletion review? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dwainwr123 (talk • contribs) 04:34, 3 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your input on this issue. I think that the decision to merge may be a case of trying to split the baby, where possibly Merge is seen as a midway point between Keep and Delete.  At least in my opinion, there was no consensus on the Seamus AfD page -- 7 votes to Keep, 6 votes to Merge, and 6 votes to Delete, with many in each group having varying opinions on why the article should be kept, merged, or deleted.  I think that if we are going to merge the Seamus article into the Mitt Romney article, then we have to include all of the article per WP:AFD/AI.  If some of the editors of the Romney article resist that, then I will go to some form of review, since to delete most of the content of the Seamus article would violate the AfD decision.Debbie W. 05:01, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

I added the following to the Biography of Living Persons Noticeboard: "Several weeks ago, an article was created about Seamus, a dog owned by US Presidential candidate Mitt Romney. The dog was part of a controversial 1983 road trip, and has been in the news extensively.  The article on Seamus (dog) was proposed for deletion.  There was a long and contentious discussion at the Afd for Seamus.  The AfD was closed with a decision to merge the Seamus article into the Mitt Romney article, which an editor did.  Some of the frequent editors of the Mitt Romney article have deleted the information about Seamus, citing undue weight.  This has led to an edit war between those who want to merge the Seamus article into to Mitt Romney article as decided by AfD, and those who don't want to change the Mitt Romney article."Debbie W. 05:29, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

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The Seamus (dog) article has been restored. I copied the following info from the closing admin.Debbie W. 18:36, 3 February 2012 (UTC)


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If this newspaper press photo of him marching is fair use, then every photo ever taken of him is. So why do you think every Wikipedia article avoids these? Look at Nelson Rockefeller or Richard Nixon, just to pick two examples from the same era. Why is every photo there one taken by federal government personnel and thus public domain? Why aren't there a dozen NY Times press photos and AP press photos and so forth in those articles? What is it that you know that every other Wikipedia editor doesn't know? Wasted Time R (talk) 21:10, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Since you are convinced of your case, I request that you add all the photos of George Romney that anybody ever took to the article now. That way we can get the FAC reviewers, which often include fair use experts, to pass judgement on them as a group. In other words, I'm concerned that they are reviewing an article which is going to undergo significant changes and aren't seeing the final product right now. Wasted Time R (talk) 21:32, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

My point is, if every photo ever taken of George Romney can be viewed as fair use, regardless of who took it (which is what you said in this edit summary), then this article needs a wholesale replacement of images. This one could be the new top image. This one would be better of him and Nixon. The one in here with the car would be great for the AMC section. This one would be great for the presidential campaign section. (Marked as "© Bettmann/CORBIS" - who cares! It's fair use.) This one conveys his personality, surely it should be used. This one of him playing golf with a young Mitt gazing in adoration - priceless! So why not go ahead and do this, and then I will alert all the FAC reviewers to rejudge the article given the new images. Wasted Time R (talk) 13:30, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

I get your point about fair use and "historical importance", but that seems to invite many debates. Is a photo of Romney next to one of his cars a transient piece of marketing, or a historically relevant image that represents the start of the long conflict Detroit would have about making smaller, more fuel-efficient cars? Cases can be made both ways. Wasted Time R (talk) 03:00, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Mormons
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PROD
Placed on the Pratt family tree list as unsourced. Cheers. Collect (talk) 18:52, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

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Thanks very much for the barnstar!

I was also twelve during the Summer of Love. But our family was on a camping trip to Yellowstone, Glacier, Grand Canyon, etc., so no San Francisco or other big cities for us and no hippies. Most I remember is some older guys at a gas station grumbling about 'those kids today' when they heard "Light My Fire" over a radio. Wasted Time R (talk) 02:03, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

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The unsourced OR "family tree" is now listed at  Cheers. Collect (talk) 12:49, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

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I apologize for my previous comments on the Talk:Seamus (dog) page about Jason Sudeikis' Saturday Night Live sketch of Mitt Romney and Seamus. My comments were in response to another editor who had deleted all the external links on the page. After doing some research, I think that the SNL parody is an appropriate external link for the Seamus page. I had never read Wikipedia's 'in popular culture' guidelines before. Additionally, I did a search of political scandals and political gaffes on Wikipedia, and although they are not common, there are some examples of parodies being used as external links. For example, there is an external link for the infamous Howard Dean scream on his Wikipedia page, and in the Dan Quayle Wikipedia article, there is an external link to his foot-in-mouth quotations. I have revised my comments on the Talk:Seamus (dog) page. Debbie W. 15:20, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

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Seamus (dog)
I noticed that you have made edits to the Seamus (dog) article. There is a survey to determine whether the Seamus article should be kept, renamed, merged, or deleted. Thank you. HHIAdm (talk) 16:49, 24 April 2012 (UTC) Talk:Seamus (dog)


 * Hey, I saw your name at the Seamus talkpage in earlier threads, but i see that you have not voted in the current (2nd) AfD . Just thought I would mention that here in case you'd like to weigh in there. El duderino (abides) 22:20, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

I saw your proposal to change the name of Seamus (dog) to Mitt Romney pet dog controversy. We recently had a very similiar proposal, and there was no consensus. Merger proposal (result = no consensus) Debbie W. 02:12, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

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I saw that you had added the Daily Caller article to the Talk:Seamus incident page noting a media organization which discussed the Seamus article. I added two more references. Do you know how to combine three press references into one block. I cannot figure out how to do it. Debbie W. 03:56, 7 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you for merging these three references, and updating to the article to reflect that the focus is now the incident. I made a couples of modifications to the first infobox. Debbie W. 02:45, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Article about you
There was an article about the Wiki editors who most edited the Mitt Romney article, and it mentions you. Congrats. http://mashable.com/2012/04/20/race-for-white-house-wikipedia/ Debbie W. 01:46, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
 * thanks very much for note. it says that as well editing santorum and gingrich, i edit georgetown university and.....Adolf Hitler.... which makes me look a bit weird! Tom B (talk) 10:43, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
 * i wouldn't have thought so Tom B (talk) 10:56, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing out that Yahoo article, Hodgdon's. I saw it a few weeks back. Good to know someone outside WP is watching the process. Dezastru (talk) 15:51, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

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I understand the reason behind your addition of the infobox for TheBlaze's website and I saw Huffington Post's infobox. The infobox you placed was on TheBlaze's page previous to my edits. However, TheBlaze has grown into a national cable news network over the past 12 months. It is no longer on the level of Huffington Post. CNN, Fox News, msnbc, etc. do not have separate infoboxes for their websites. Also, the "main" page link you placed redirected right back to the very section under TheBlaze's page. I just wanted to share these thoughts with you and get your feedback. LibertarianGuy (talk) 23:03, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

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