User talk:Hog Farm/Archive 2

The Bugle: Issue CLXXII, August 2020
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What does "Per ACR" mean?
What does "Per ACR" mean? BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 02:18, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
 * - ACR is shorthand sometimes used for A-Class Review. I'm assuming this is from the Slayback's article.  That article's being reviewed for A-Class, which is between GA and FA, by the the Military History WikiProject.  The review is at WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Slayback's Missouri Cavalry Regiment, I'm always open to any further ideas on how to improve this. Hog Farm Bacon 02:26, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of 8th Missouri Infantry Regiment (Confederate)
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article 8th Missouri Infantry Regiment (Confederate) you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Eddie891 -- Eddie891 (talk) 12:22, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

An apple pie for you!

 * - Many thanks. I'm willing to help with the GANR too; if you want any help, just ping me over to the review once it's opened, and I'll see if I can help. Hog Farm Bacon 19:49, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Great! Thanks.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:51, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

"Nvm, I think I screwed up the counter"
Re this: See Help:List. The way to do this looks like Or you could do it all in one line with pb like I did - More detail, sort of, at WP:Colons and asterisks. Though that's about mixing * and : rather than # and :, exactly the same concept applies. —Cryptic 02:59, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
 * 1) your original oppose ~
 * your added statement ~
 * 1) 's oppose
 * 1) your original oppose ~ your added statement ~
 * 2) 's oppose
 * Thanks for explaining how that works. Makes me wonder if I should be commenting on RFA if I can't make a list yet. Hog Farm Bacon 11:39, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Louise Boursier
FYI - I just did a major copy edit to upgrade this article (hopefully) to Good Article status. It failed a short time ago and now I have made these improvements. If I can't find anything further to improve in the next couple of days, I plan on renominating GAN.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:26, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Contgratulations
Congratulations on the promotion of First Battle of Newtonia. I had planned to post my review comments to it, but when I went to do so the article had already been promoted. In any event, you might wish to add a comma after Missouri?
 * The First Battle of Newtonia was fought on September 30, 1862, between Cederate soldiers commanded by Colonel Douglas H. Cooper and a Union column commanded by Brigadier General Frederick Salomon near Newtonia, Missouri during the American Civil War. Regards - Pendright (talk) 01:48, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
 * - Thanks for catching that. Yes, the geographic comma needs to be there, I'll add it promptly. Hog Farm Bacon 01:52, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of 8th Missouri Infantry Regiment (Confederate)
The article 8th Missouri Infantry Regiment (Confederate) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:8th Missouri Infantry Regiment (Confederate) for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Eddie891 -- Eddie891 (talk) 13:21, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Bledsoe's Missouri Battery
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

Page moves to Drafts
Hello, Hog Farm,

When you move a page from main space to draft space, could you post a notice on the page creator's user talk page to inform them? Thank you! Liz Read! Talk! 18:28, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
 * - Oops. I generally do, I just forgot this time.  Thanks for the reminder. Hog Farm Bacon 18:30, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

DYK for 1st Missouri Field Battery
—valereee (talk) 00:02, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Congratulations from the Military History Project

 * Well done on your first ACM, Hog Farm. May it be the first of many! Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 05:37, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Seconded. Very good work there, and once Missouri is finished there are plenty of other states to work on.
 * You are probably aware that the MilHist coordinator elections are coming up in September; if you haven't already considered putting your name forward, can I urge you to. I think that you would make a good coordinator and the work commitment is quite low. Gog the Mild (talk) 16:05, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
 * My article creation will be on hiatus for a time since I couldn't take my books to university with me, but once I get back, i've found a pd source from the 1800s detailing all the Union regiments, so I'll be back in action. Hog Farm Bacon 16:24, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Boo!
 * Hurrah!
 * Gog the Mild (talk) 16:26, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Gog the Mild (talk) 16:26, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Gog the Mild (talk) 16:26, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

How to rename more categories?
Do you know how to rename more categories on Wikipedia? If you do, please teach me how to rename more categories. Thanks. St3095  (?)  08:29, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Pretty much, it's going to go through WP:CFD. If it's something uncontroversial, like fixing a typo or aligning with a name change in the parent article, list it at the "Speedy renaming and mergers" section of the CFD page, and someone who's able to suppress the page move redirect will move it if it's truly uncontroversial.  Otherwise, it should go through the regular CFD function.  Do you have Twinkle enabled?  If so, it's really easy to go through the regular CFD part. Hog Farm Bacon 15:10, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
 * My twinkle is disabled. St3095   (?)  15:13, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
 * There's manual instructions at WP:CFD, but they're a touch complex. Is there a particular one you have in mind? I might be able to do a procedural nomination for you. Hog Farm Bacon 15:19, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I have already request to rename two categories earlier today. Click here to look. St3095   (?)  15:30, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Battle of Sedalia
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Battle of Sedalia you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Gog the Mild -- Gog the Mild (talk) 12:02, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Battle of Sedalia
The article Battle of Sedalia you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Battle of Sedalia for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Gog the Mild -- Gog the Mild (talk) 14:43, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of 6th Delaware Infantry Regiment
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article 6th Delaware Infantry Regiment you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Sturmvogel 66 -- Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 21:23, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

Wikiproject Military history coordinator election nominations open
Nominations for the upcoming project coordinator election are now open. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. If you are interested in running, please sign up here by 23:59 UTC on 14 September! Voting doesn't commence until 15 September. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the coord team. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 02:05, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

WikiCup 2020 September newsletter
The fourth round of the competition has finished, with 865 points being required to qualify for the final round, nearly twice as many points as last year. It was a hotly competitive round with two contestants with 598 and 605 points being eliminated, and all but two of the contestants who reached the final round having achieved an FA during the round. The highest scorers were


 * Free Hong Kong flag.svg Bloom6132, with 1478 points gained mainly from 5 featured lists, 12 DYKs and 63 in the news items;
 * 🇮🇩HaEr48 with 1318 points gained mainly from 2 featured articles, 5 good articles and 8 DYKs;
 * 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Lee Vilenski with 1201 points mainly gained from 2 featured articles and 10 good articles.

Between them, contestants achieved 14 featured articles, 14 featured lists, 2 featured pictures, 87 good articles, 90 DYK entries, 75 ITN entries, 95 featured article candidate reviews and 81 good article reviews. Congratulations to all who participated! It was a generally high-scoring and productive round and I think we can expect a highly competitive finish to the competition.

Remember that any content promoted after the end of round 4 but before the start of round 5 can be claimed in round 5. Remember too that you must claim your points within 10 days of "earning" them. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews. It would be helpful if this list could be cleared of any items no longer relevant. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Godot13 (talk), Sturmvogel 66 (talk), Vanamonde (talk), Cwmhiraeth (talk) MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 19:52, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

Deprods
Hi Hog Farm, I've seen a few of your AfD nominations that express disappointment with Andrew Davidson deprodding nominated articles without giving any explanation. I understand your frustration there; it's more helpful if the deprodder posts sources. But I am finding sources for some of these pinball articles, which indicates that they may need more attention than a Prod. It might be easier just to take pop culture articles straight to AfD, rather than do the Prod, see it get deprodded, sigh, and then post a frustrated AfD nomination. WP:PROD is supposed to be used for uncontroversial deletions, so if you see that a topic area is not uncontroversial, then it's possible that Prod isn't the right tool for the job. Just a suggestion, I hope you're having a nice day. — Toughpigs (talk) 21:29, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
 * - I'm also thinking I should shy away from nominating these pinball articles for deletion for awhile. I've got a fairly decent AFD record, but my miss rate on these pinball articles has been a lot higher than I feel comfortable with.  Obviously, I'm not familiar enough with where to be finding the sources to be able to declare if the pinball articles really aren't notable or not.  And an AFD nom that's missing something can be negative: I've seen a lot of AFDs collect quick kneejerk delete !votes when it probably shouldn't.  I had a similar case earlier where I was missing on a few music-related AFDs, so I took a few months off nominating them until I became a lot more experienced with finding sources.  I think the same principle applies to the pinball articles.  I'm having second thoughts about my ability to find all relevant sources, so I should shy away from nominating them until I'm a little better at finding the sources. Hog Farm Bacon 02:05, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that's a good idea. Like you say, there's a risk that notable articles get deleted just because people aren't sure where to find the sources. I'm glad you're being thoughtful about it; thanks for your response. — Toughpigs (talk) 02:16, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

I think the trick for the pinballs, and perhaps other topics, is to check the Internet Archive. But hmmm, there still seem to be many problematic ones. I just PRODed No Good Gofers for which I see zero sources (let's see if it gets dePRODed, and then what happens at an AfD), and I started a discussion at Talk:Laser War which has some but I think not good enough. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 04:00, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

DYK for 8th Missouri Infantry Regiment (Confederate)
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:01, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Battle of Marais des Cygnes
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Battle of Marais des Cygnes you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Gog the Mild -- Gog the Mild (talk) 11:00, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Battle of Marais des Cygnes
The article Battle of Marais des Cygnes you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Battle of Marais des Cygnes for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Gog the Mild -- Gog the Mild (talk) 22:42, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Confederate Memorial State Historic Site
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Confederate Memorial State Historic Site you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Peacemaker67 -- Peacemaker67 (talk) 02:40, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Confederate Memorial State Historic Site
The article Confederate Memorial State Historic Site you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Confederate Memorial State Historic Site for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Peacemaker67 -- Peacemaker67 (talk) 10:20, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Confederate Memorial State Historic Site
The article Confederate Memorial State Historic Site you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Confederate Memorial State Historic Site for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Peacemaker67 -- Peacemaker67 (talk) 10:02, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

GAN
Hi, not sure of your timescale here, but I'll be away from my desk from the 11th for some days. Will resume after that if need be! Chiswick Chap (talk) 10:21, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
 * - I meant to get to Aragorn earlier, but RL's been pretty busy for me. I'll get to it as soon as I can; if need be, I'm willing to keep the review open until you can get back.  Hopefully it gets reviewed today, although that still might not get you time (it looks like it's in pretty good shape, though). Hog Farm Bacon 13:58, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
 * OK, either way! Chiswick Chap (talk) 14:04, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

If you have a moment...
Hi Hog Farm, hope all is well! I know it's a bit out of your area of expertise, but I was wondering if you could be so kind as to provide a 2nd opinion on Robert F. Utter? I've become too involved to pass myself, and it probably needs more or less a re-review. There are three points of mine outstanding, but I'm done reviewing. Again, please don't feel obligated, but I'd really appreciate it. Best, Eddie891 Talk Work 11:19, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue Issue CLXXIII, September 2020
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18th Pennsylvania Cavalry Regiment
- Thank you for reviewing 18th Pennsylvania Cavalry Regiment. It can be hard to find people to review articles with its length. It had a very thorough Peer Review, so hopefully it is now easier to evaluate. You have written lots of military GAs, so perhaps I can learn a few things. TwoScars (talk) 16:15, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

Your recent GEOLAND noms …
… have given me a good chuckle. Have you been looking for the (pseudo-)places with the most ridiculous names, or is that just coincidence? AleatoryPonderings (talk) 02:26, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I've been trying to go with the more ridiculous names, as they're easier to perform WP:BEFOREs on, as there's fewer false positives. Rock, Missouri was almost impossible to look for though, just because of how completely generic that town name is. Hog Farm Bacon 02:30, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Ah, smart! I didn't think about the searchability. In any event, thanks for bringing some much-needed levity to AfD of late :) AleatoryPonderings (talk) 02:32, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

Just tweaked the Rock, Missouri article, it was a bit problematic as it doesn't seem to appear on the USGS maps of the area. A note though regarding these old country store/communities: back in 1984 I taught school at a rural school about 30 miles from my home. Along the road there were five or six of these old stores and I would stop for gas or coffee at various ones along the way. Well, the last time I drove that road - couple years ago - only one of those old stores was still in service. Kinda sad in a way ... we sometimes lose a bit with our "progress". Anyway, roll on ... :) Vsmith (talk) 15:31, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Is Truxno, Louisiana notable? I have no idea how to do these searches, but the statement that "its population is unknown" raises a real red flag …… AleatoryPonderings (talk) 21:29, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
 * - I'm not quite for sure. The claim that it is located within Marion is rather suspect, as both Google Maps and the topographic maps show Truxno well outside of Marion's limits.  The New York Times called it a "onestore village" in 1979, but it's not 100% clear if that means the village had one store, or if the village was just one store.  The topos do show some buildings there.  An old Louisiana Public Service Commission report calls it "Truxno Community".  There's two GNIS entries: one the usual vague "populated place", and one calling it an old post office.  This news piece calls it a hamlet.  This calls it a town.  It's borderline, but it might be able to scrape by WP:GEOLAND.  Hog Farm Bacon 22:05, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, ok! Thanks for looking into it :) AleatoryPonderings (talk) 22:08, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Milhist coordinator election voting has commenced
G'day everyone, voting for the 2020 Wikiproject Military history coordinator tranche is now open. This is a simple approval vote; only "support" votes should be made. Project members should vote for any candidates they support by 23:59 (UTC) on 28 September 2020. Thanks from the outgoing coord team, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 05:17, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

DYK for David Ashley Parker from Powder Springs
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:03, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Battle of Sedalia
Roger Wilco. Lieutcoluseng (talk) 19:16, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Brooks Pounders
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Brooks Pounders you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Larry Hockett -- Larry Hockett (talk) 13:01, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

References in Gessner Harrison
HI, I just fixed sfn errors -- the links need to link to the book cited (you need to include the year in sfn template). I would suggest to install script (described at Category:Harv and Sfn no-target errors) to highlight errors whenever the link breaks for any reason. Additionally, you have cited several books but did not include page numbers. I have tagged the citations with page needed. Please revisit the article and the proper page numbers. Thanks! Renata (talk) 05:14, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of 6th Delaware Infantry Regiment
The article 6th Delaware Infantry Regiment you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:6th Delaware Infantry Regiment for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Sturmvogel 66 -- Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 02:02, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Brooks Pounders
The article Brooks Pounders you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Brooks Pounders for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Larry Hockett -- Larry Hockett (talk) 22:41, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Capture of Sedalia
— Maile (talk) 00:03, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

TFL notification
Hi, Hog Farm. I'm just posting to let you know that Justin Moore discography – a list that you have been heavily involved with – has been chosen to appear on the Main Page as Today's featured list for October 19, 2020. The TFL blurb can be seen here. If you have any thoughts on the selection, please post them on my talk page or at TFL talk. Regards, Giants2008  ( Talk ) 02:21, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Confederate Memorial State Historic Site
—valereee (talk) 00:03, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Source review
Hi Hog Farm, thanks so much for your source review of the 1988 final, and I very much appreciate it. I was wondering if you would be kind enough to take a look at the 1993 final article too? Every little helps. Cheers. And let me know if there's anything I can help you out with review-wise. Cheers. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!&#33;!&#33;) 20:08, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
 * - Right now I've got a WP:MILHIST/ACR review that I've committed to next that's a little longish (55kb readable prose), but once I get through that one, I'll give the 1993 one a look if nobody hasn't snagged it first. If you'd really like to take a look at an article, I've got one open at Featured article candidates/Landis' Missouri Battery/archive1 that needs someone outside of the military history project to take a look.  If that's not your subject matter, though, I get that.  FAC's been pretty sluggish lately, so I've been knocking out several reviews lately. Hog Farm Bacon
 * Certainly, there's no rush on the 1993 article, my hopes at WikiCup ended about two weeks ago so this is just for my personal pleasure, take your time. I'll happily add your FAC to my list.  Cheers, and thanks again for your review.  The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!&#33;!&#33;) 20:57, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Rodney Scott's Whole Hog BBQ
I half-expected to see that you had written this DYK, as it seems right up your alley … Hope all is well. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 23:59, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Second Battle of Newtonia Site
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Second Battle of Newtonia Site you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Sturmvogel 66 -- Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 00:42, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Discord
Hi Hog Farm, I hope you are well! I've noticed your stellar contributions lately, keep up the hard work (I also saw you've done 200 GARs in a year... Which is crazy!)

I'm not sure if you are interested at all, but there is a discord group for Wikipedians that you may or may not be interested in. I frequent it a lot and I think you'd fit in well if it suited you. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 20:52, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
 * - Thanks for the encouragement. I don't do discord though, as I've found Wikipedia burns enough of my time on its own, and since I have to be online quite a bit for school, the temptation to keep a million random tabs open on my browser generally leads to decreased productivity.  Thanks, though. Hog Farm Bacon 21:07, 30 September 2020 (UTC)