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Roddy Llewellyn
I noticed you listed Roddy Llewellyn as a candidate for speedy deletion. Fair enough, but a quick google search on the name would have turned up a bit about him that couldn't be gleaned from the article text. I'm just now stubbing it. Hope that's okay with you. Steve block talk 20:23, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Sounds great. Based on what was written, I thought he was just some gardener. Didn't know he was a famous gardener. :)--Howcheng 21:08, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

opinion needed
Hello, I noticed you made an edit to Philip J. Klass. I put up NPOV on the article. Could you give an opinion as to the NPOV? Thank you, Bubba73 03:40, August 3, 2005 (UTC)

Mr. Monk and the Wikipedia MoS
Thanks for doing some formatting on Mr. Monk and the Other Detective. If I might make a suggestion, could you please use sentence capitalization for article headings, per Manual of Style? In other words, the heading "Plot Synopsis" should be "Plot synopsis". Thanks for your help here. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 23:40, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

Rent-a-Husband
I saw your vote on Votes_for_deletion/Rent-a-Husband and agree it looked bad, but Rent-a-Husband is a real movie that stars Brooke Shields, Maria Grazia Cucinotta and Chevy Chase. I rewrote the article into a stub, so you might want to take another look. DS1953 02:15, August 12, 2005 (UTC)
 * Nice work. I changed my vote. --Howcheng 15:32, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

Surrender of Japan
Thanks for the compliment, but you're looking at another user's work. My contribution was a paragraph or two, but someone else was in the process of writing an article (offline) and posted it after I made a small expansion of the article. Much better than I would have done in a month, let alone during the few days that Votes for Deletion allows! Thanks for taking an interest in the article. Fg2 06:46, August 16, 2005 (UTC)

SoCal WikiProject
Since you are in Southern California, you might be interested in the Southern California WikiProject (and its parent California WikiProject). Please take a look a look at the project and see if there is anything that interests you. If you have any questions, please contact me.

On a related subject, I noticed on your user page that you were interested in MLS players. Awhile back I edited the player rosters for the two LA MLS teams, adding diacritics to their names if that was the way that the were spelled in the articles on them on the team's websites. I was immediately reverted. Apparently two of the editors who do most of the editing on MLS articles have decided, without any publicity or discussion with other Wikipedia editors, that any MLS player with US citizenship, even those who were born outside the US, should absolutely not have their names spelled with diacritics, either for the titles of the Wikipedia articles on them or for player rosters (even if the diacritics are only after the "pipe" and not the article title). I would be interested in knowing your opinion on this. Blank Verse  &empty;  09:23, 23 August 2005 (UTC)


 * see C.D. Chivas USA page history and Talk:C.D. Chivas USA for the discussion. The long list of players on the MLS website has NO diacritics for any player. I couldn't find anything that seemed to be an "official" roster, and I couldn't find anyway to contact the MLS to clarify matters. Blank Verse  &empty;  04:29, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Aarón López was born in Zapote de Parras, Michoacán. His birth certificate almost certainly had the diacritics. The non-accented name at UCLA can easily be explained away by lazy and/or clueless athletic staff members and sports reporters. Aarón probably appreciated joining C.D. Chivas USA, with staff members who cared about the diacritics and knew how to enter them on the computer, so that his name was restored to its original spelling. Even though he is now a US citizen, I think that his name should still be spelled with the diacritics. That's the way that it is on his page at C.D. Chivas USA (&mdash;in the text of the article, not the infobox, where nobody's name is spelled with a diacritic). My personal opinion is that the names should be spelled the way that person wants to spell it currently, no matter how it was spelled in the past. Blank Verse  &empty;  03:44, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I liked your description of the soccer rivalries that you added to Los Angeles Galaxy, especially when compared to the hyperventilation that the anon wrote over in the Major rivalries article. If I had tackled the addition, it probably would have been written in ultra-cynic mode and been one of my rare violations of NPOV. Blank Verse  &empty;  16:09, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

CA Historical Landmarks
I've made a few small style changes to the page in progress. I'm not sure when I'll get back to working on this, but I'll probably start from the end of the alphabet unless I get ambitious and tackle L.A. County. Mike Dillon 05:02, August 27, 2005 (UTC)

re: Redlinks on templates
Yes, a number of navigation templates have been deleted on TFD because they consisted of numerous redlinks. So there is currently an unwritten etiquette rule to not add an article until it has been created. However, infoboxes are a different story... Zzyzx11 (Talk) 05:38, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

The Greatest Show On Earth
Thanks for the update on the Premier League. When I first read it I suspected it was a marketing slogan, similar to the one used for hockey by the NHL in North America (The Coolest Game In The World). I was unable to find a reference for it but the original sentence was too POV. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather 07:07, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

List of California State Routes
Someone wants to convert this to a template so it wound up at Articles for deletion/List of California State Routes BTW this user was probably making a WP:POINT when he did this as he kept removing the TFD from WV Highways. --Rschen7754 05:30, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

Barnstar

 * ''Moved to User:Howcheng

Jimbo Wales to Attend San Diego Meetup on October 18 2005
Hello, Jimbo Wales will be in San Diego to attend OOPSLA and has agreed to come by and visit with the San Diego wikipedians. If you are interested, you will find more info on my talk page. Johntex\talk 00:54, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

Road stubs
All of the following made their way to WP:SFD:


 * Arizona State Route Stub
 * Kentucky State Highway Stub
 * Maryland-State-Highway-Stub
 * Massachusetts-State-Highway-Stub
 * Michigan-State-Highway-Stub
 * Missouri-State-Highway-Stub
 * Nevada-State-Highway-Stub
 * New-Hampshire-State-Highway-Stub
 * Nhroute
 * Washington-State-Highway-Stub

--Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 03:51, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

AfD voting
Please do not vote in AfDs that are already marked as closed. &mdash; J I P | Talk 17:35, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Neck and Neck
I don't think that one's nonsense, but it could have gone under A1 or the infrequent A4. &Euml;vilphoenix Burn! 01:57, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Salamis Glory
Hi Howcheng! I noticed this nomination, and thought I'd have a crack at improving it. I have rewritten the article from a cruise review to a cruise ship article. I am not entirely sure if the ships notability is great enough (my personal view is that cruise ships are inherently notable enough for articles, although I understand that many may disagree with me there), but I'd appreciate another look at it. Yours, Sjakkalle (Check!)  07:00, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Barnstar

 * ''Moved to User:Howcheng

AFD
Thanks for your comments Howcheng, the things you reference are guidelines, not policy. No part of AFD policy mentions notability. I think it is important to follow policy, I will, however, take another look at those articles. My comment primarily concerned the nomination though. I think it is important that poeple nominating something for deletion list a valid reason! Cheers! Trollderella 19:45, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

Theodor Curtius
Would you please be so kind as to remove the Speedy Deletion notice from Theodor Curtius. It is explained on its talk page why your suggestion is erroneous. Wim van Dorst 21:43, 21 October 2005 (UTC).
 * The Talk page does contain explanatory info now, and the article has already undergone several edits, to mitigate any other copyright infringements appearances. Wim van Dorst 22:04, 21 October 2005 (UTC).

Articles for deletion/Tourettes guy
Hi Howcheng. Further to your suggestion at Articles for deletion/Tourette's Guy, I've also tagged Tourettes guy for deletion - just thought I'd let you know in case you wanted to vote there too... Regards, CLW 16:12, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Professor David Ashmead
''You noted that this listing had been orphaned (and I see how I forgot to put in the pg= parameter in the template), but there were five votes before your comment, so I'm wondering how they got there, especially as they're from users who are known to frequent AFD. I doubt they'd have found it just by accident... strange. Anyway, thanks for listing it properly. -- howcheng  [ talk &#149; contribs &#149; web ] 00:03, 26 October 2005 (UTC)''


 * They probably found it from its link from Articles for deletion/Calchas Street. &mdash;Cryptic (talk) 00:46, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Advertising vs Information
Sorry for the deletion of your comments on Avotone, I am new to Wikipedia and it will not happen again. I am just curious, what constitutes advertising vs. factual information? The article posted is written in a manner that is factual and informative for people looking for information about Avotone. True L’Oreal is more 'noticeable' than Avotone, but should that really matter? At what level do you become 'noticeable'? I commend you for your watchful eye over the information being posted on Wikipedia, but if L’Oreal can have a page, so should other companies, no matter what the size. If there is a problem with the facts posted on the Avotone page, I can understand, but there are thousands of people who have purchased Avotone products and they may want to know more information about Avotone and the history of the company.

Why is the article:Malevolent Alien Abduction Research being deleted ?
Why is that ? I'm also having a UFO Abductee look into this, and give his opinions as to make a sick article better. The intent of this is to provide information to people who has had a really nasty experience to report this without the often obscenity laced ridicule and/or insults, for people conducting research into these types of encounters. I hope I did'nt offend you.Martial Law 05:33, 27 October 2005 (UTC) :)

Done this. Reason is that it may serve as a source of information to both report hostile, often grisly alien encounters without the often obscenity laced ridicule,abuse and to provide a source of info. for sci-fi writers,etc.Martial Law 07:14, 27 October 2005 (UTC) :)

D'Agostini Winery
Sorry about that, it got mixed up with User:Markieg's edits in that category which were a mess. Looks good. Justinc 17:45, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

Fair use of wikipedia
You had a question about Fair use on the copyright page, why dont we build it together?--Travb 23:29, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

See my conversations on the topic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Copyright_problems#Fair_Use_policy_.28moved_from_Jimbo.27s_talk_page.29

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Copyright_problems/Header

Slobbery Jim
Howcheng,

I have rewritten the article so that it refers to the real life Slobbery Jim. I would be grateful if you could take a look. Capitalistroadster 10:11, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Meade Skelton
Hi howcheng,

Thanks for your message. Here is the recent deletion record of the article :


 * 16:30, 28 October 2005 Mailer diablo deleted "Meade Skelton" (db-repost)
 * 08:38, 27 October 2005 RHaworth deleted "Meade Skelton" (repost - see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Meade Skelton)
 * 16:52, 26 October 2005 Jni deleted "Meade Skelton" (repost of VfD deleted material)

In this case, I strongly recommend that you submit a Deletion review instead, as the AfD included votes from users citing non-notability and to address the repost clause.

- Best regards, Mailer Diablo 02:23, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

cc : There's an anonymous reply on my talkpage re: this. - Mailer Diablo 05:25, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

Fisker
Howcheng, you have proposed Fisker for deletion. I have reworded the article. I also took the liberty to rename it to Fisker Coachbuild. I respectfully submit that your statement "New automobile company that hasn't launched any products yet." is not correct since two models seem to have been shown at the 2005 Frankfurt Motor SHow. You may wish to review your introductory statement. My purpose is not to lobbying you, but just to inform you of the update. Thanks. --Edcolins 09:18, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

AFD
Feel free to vote on the Frank Davis AFD as well. The anon creator has been manipulating both AFDs and has been deleting votes.Gator(talk) 18:09, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

Klep dim Trep
Thanks! Still say delete. Bjelleklang -  talk 00:37, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks for merging them all into one!--Isotope23 01:15, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

afd helper
I have built a script to speed up voting on AFDs and am looking for feedback. Please have a go! jnothman talk 03:25, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
 * In response to your comments on my user talk page, by in its own page, do you mean that I provide a frame that is consistently used, or do you mean that I just always use the same target, so it'll pop-up the first time and change the same page for future edits? I use Opera, so once it opens up, I just hit the 1 key and it moves back to the nominations listing, and I can make sure my vote was posted correctly later. Maybe this discussion should continue on the script's talk page. jnothman talk 09:31, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

Shaquille O'Neal
Thanks for reverting the vandalism there just now. You beat me to it! :-) --Idont Havaname 00:32, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

Welcome to Esperanza!
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nn-band
I notice that you and some others have expressed that there should be a speedy tag for obvious nn bands and I could not agree more. Is there anything being done on this? What do you think of an nn-band template? Cheers. PJM 14:36, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

Your idea about expanding CSD A7 is even better. Is this something you've formally proposed already or are planning to? I think it would really unclog AFD. PJM 17:40, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

AfD nominators
G'day Howard,

thanks for your note (that was fast!). Hmm, that note on the main AfD page is new. I didn't notice it last time I nominated anything (admittedly, it's been a while). I was told (not long before you replied) that the practice arose because certain admins weren't counting the nomination as a full-bore vote. Frankly, this strikes me as exceedingly obnoxious: it's the nominator's job to put up a convincing case for deletion, not to vote himself. Oh, well.

Thanks for pointing this out to me. --fuddlemark (fuddle me!) 20:33, 3 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Apologies for falling silent, despite your reply. I tend to forget things if I don't get onto them pretty quickly.  If you're interested in the rest that User:Chairboy and I have had to say, please see User talk:Chairboy.  Cheers, fuddlemark (fuddle me!) 18:46, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

CSD A7 expansion
Correct me if I'm wrong, but this looks like the right place to make the proposal: []. PJM 21:20, 3 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Great. I added my thoughts already. PJM 22:06, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

Bret Harte Middle School
Unfortunately the radical inclusionists refuse to accept even even firsthand knowledge of a subject's non-notability. Gazpacho 07:08, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

Re : Closing unvoted AFD discussions
Hi Howcheng,

OK, will do so the next time round. ;)

- Cheers, Mailer Diablo 14:10, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

Fir e  Fo  x RFA
 

Thanks for your support on my request for adminship.

The final outcome was (96/2/0), so I am now an administrator. If you ever have any queries about my actions, please do not hesitate to contact me. Again, thanks! Fir e Fo  x  18:54, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

List of Jewish Fellows of the Royal Society
List of Jewish Fellows of the Royal Society is another pointless list that has sprung up like the French and Russian Academy of Jews lists. This one was already voted for deletion but ended in a draw for some reason. I'd like to reopen it for deletion but don't know how to do it correctly (I'm new). I'm wondering if you could help me. Thanks for any response. 72.144.147.76 20:28, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

It's not too early, because there was no consensus. Rules state that if there is no consensus one can be instated shortly afterwards using this template:  This article is being considered for deletion for the 2nd time in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policy.

Please share your thoughts on the matter at this article's entry on the Articles for Deletion page.

You are welcome to edit this article, but please do not blank this article or remove this notice while the discussion is in progress. For more information, particularly on merging or moving the article during the discussion, read the Guide to Deletion.  Maintenance Use Only: &#123;{subst:AfDx|2nd}} &#123;{subst:afd2|pg=|text=}} &#123;{subst:afd3|pg= (2nd nomination)}} [ log] {{subst:afd top}} {{subst:afd bottom}} 

Your vote on AfD/False Doppler
I just added some lengthy commentary to the AfD/False Doppler page. You may wish to take a look. It is hopefully illuminating. → Ξxtreme Unction { yak yak yak ł blah blah blah } 01:02, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the Barnstar
It's my first bit of acknowledgement from a fellow Wikipedian. An honor. Thanks sincerely. → <font color=#ff0000>Ξxtreme Unction { yak yak yak ł blah blah blah } 19:18, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Jewish lists
Hi, Jewish people are a diaspora and ethnicity just like African Americans. If you do not think that African American lists should be deleted then please change your vote on these lists. Arniep 18:35, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

Re: RyanVG
Done. Denelson83 20:26, 18 November 2005 (UTC)