User talk:Holmes Mike

Tekanto
Hi Mike. The article is still about the whole municipio, not the municipal seat/cabecera (only), whatever the article is actually called. Since we don't yet have a separate article about the town itself and the only info about it is contained in the municipio's article, common practice is to put the article at the simpler name (without any disambiguating qualifier). That way, searches and incoming links for either the municipio or the township will arrive at the article containing info about either entity. The article's text makes it clear enough what the scope is. If at some later point enough distinct info is obtained to create a separate article about the town, they can be split out. There's no real well-defined naming convention to distinguish Mexican municipios and localities of the same name, or rather there are in practice several ways it is done currently. Hope that explains, regards --cjllw ʘ  TALK 02:14, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Hi Mike
I thank you very much for your offer. I will certainly take advantage of the great material that you have gathered and exhibited here. I congratulate you. Your article in english for this little municipality in Yucatán is much better than the one I have prepared for WP in Spanish. Not as an excuse, but I undertook the task of developing the articles for the 106 municipalities in the Yucatan, so I first decided to schematize in order to give a presence thinking that improvements might come later from others. Not all of them were prepared by me, but most of them were. Now I am beginning to slowly improve them and you give me this beautiful oppotunity to do so in the specific Tekanto case. As far as the date of the establishment of the municipality I think the right one is 1921. You see, most of the Municipios in Yucatán were created after the 1918 "Organic Law": Ley Orgánica de los Municipios, was enacted. But let me check with my sources again and I'll let you know. Thanks for taking the initiative to share--Yodigo (talk) 00:33, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I have found more references stating the 1900 founding date that you use than the 1921 (only one) so I've decided to modify the Spanish version. I´ll try to go deeper into this, but for the time being, frankly, I think your version is more supported. Thank you for your comment on my talk page. Will keep in touch. (Oh yes, I think your interest for these small municipalities -at the end of the world for most people- is both surprising and deserving. Keep it up!)--Yodigo (talk) 04:13, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

More on Mexican municipios
Hi Michael, apologies for the delayed response, I have been away and off the air for the past week or so. I think your edits to those articles look great, I am glad that someone's looking at these. Re the article titles and scope, for most of these (and particularly when the municipio and the township have the same name) I think it is best to have the article at the simplest possible name, and for its scope to be (for eg) "Tizimin is a municipality in Yucatan, and also the name of its municipal seat/largest settlement..." or along those lines. That is, the article is mostly about the municipality, but of course mentions also the municipal seat (and any other notable localities within). Personally I don't see any pressing need to have separate articles on the municipality and the municipal seat, for one thing a great deal of INEGI, INAFED, CDI etc stats are at municipal level. It would only be in cases where enough distinct info accumulates to make it worth while to have separate articles; it is common practice to have articles that contain "subtopics" that could one day perhaps be turned into a viable separate article, and you could look at it as if the settlements were "subtopics" or sub-entities of the municipality. I would suggest, turning article titles like Municipality of Motul (if there are redlinks to these) into Redirects to the article containing the info about the municipality (and its localities, incl. the cabecera). That is, the actual article would either be at Motul (if there is nothing else at that name), or else Motul, Yucatan (ie "Municipio, State"). The other name variations eg "Municipality of Motul", "Motul (municipality)", etc would redirect to the article. Like I said, there are defacto several ways in which these are named. Keep up the great work, regards --cjllw ʘ  TALK 08:23, 6 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi Michael. Thanks, you've been doing great work on those municipio's articles, keep it up! Given that bodies like INAFED & INEGI publish copious and freely available material on them, having at least a starting article on all 2800+ of them should eventually be achievable, given the time and inclination. Re those ext links, yes a lot of them (too many) have little informational value and pretty much serve only the interests of the website, not wikipedia. So there shouldn't be much trouble in removing those links if they fall in that category, go ahead and take them out. Our external links guidelines here cater for the removal of links more commercial than useful. Sometimes you'll get a dispute, and sometimes they keep getting added back in (popular tourist destinations like Cancun, Cozumel, Playa del Carmen etc are the worst), but overall there's no obligation in wikipedia to maintain or have any external link. And yes, good catching those pseudo-official websites, we should always replace those with the actual ayuntamiento one. If there is one, that is; if not the state will often have some relevant webpage. Regards --cjllw ʘ  TALK 03:20, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

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