User talk:HongQiGong/Archive 4

Need your vote
Hi, we may not agree with each other, but when come to Charter 08, I hope we can see something in common. Please have a look at http://zh.wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:%E6%8A%95%E7%A5%A8#.E6.87.89.E5.90.A6.E5.85.81.E8.A8.B1PD-manifesto and cast your vote. My user name over there is 阿拉伯王子   Arilang  talk  21:29, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

USer:Sea888
USer:SEa888 is an incarnation of USEr:David873 and USer:Dave1185, he is a vietnamese who currently lives in australia, after having (or maybe his parents) fled south vietnam after the communist takeover, and happens to know alot about singapore. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.84.159.237 (talk) 19:17, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Differences between Huaxia and barbarians
An article that you have been involved in editing, Differences between Huaxia and barbarians, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Articles for deletion/Differences between Huaxia and barbarians. Thank you. Madalibi (talk) 07:05, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Purely chatty post
Hey there, since we've run into each other a few times in the past and I know you're from Hong Kong, thought I'd tell you I had my first visit to HK about a week ago and had a great time. Really fascinating place. Cheers, Heimstern Läufer (talk) 07:25, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Nicholas Tse
I was wondering if you were aware if there was an established convention on the order of names for Chinese people in WP? There has been a tug of war going on at the above, with editors changing it from Nicholas Tse Ting-fung to Nicholas Ting-fung Tse and back again. I'm getting rather sick of it. Ohconfucius (talk) 15:44, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Not sure if there's any consensus on WP for that, but the common convention in real life in HK is (if they're going to write their names in that form at all) to do "Nicholas Tse Ting Fung". But this usually isn't done unless it's a formal situation like in a news article or on a CV.  Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 17:34, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Wei Man
korean editor kuebie is preparing a vote to change name to a korean one, and canvassing korean editors, vote no on name change. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.155.158.150 (talk) 18:34, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Open invitation
Hi, please check User talk:Arilang1234  Arilang  talk  22:14, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

User:Arilang1234/Sandbox/ Hua-Yi zhi bian(temporary name)
User:Arilang1234/Sandbox/ Hua-Yi zhi bian(temporary name)

Please provide content:lead section and the rest.  Arilang  talk  02:28, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Join WikiProject Koei Warriors Games!
Would you like to join the Koei Warriors Games WikiProject? It is everything Dynasty Warriors, Samurai Warriors, and Warriors Orochi! To participate, add your name to the list of participants and apply   to your user page.

If you are not sure what a WikiProject is, it is a club of Wikipedians interested in the WikiProject's subject and helping to improve articles of or related to that subject. I saw you greatly contributed to the Samurai Warriors article, so I figured I'd ask if you wanted to participate in Wikiproject/Koei Warriors Games. You do not have to, and neither are you obliged; I am just asking. -Blue Caper  (talk) 23:24, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Han Chinese
Hey, look out for the Han Chinese article will you. Anonymous users are keep reverting back the article to version that contains statements of dubious origin (Chinese language article and article from political sources). The anonymous users comments in the talk page are pretty incoherent as well (with name callings and then some). I think it might be best to semi-protect the article.--Balthazarduju (talk) 22:40, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Seriously, just get STUFFED
You are clearly nothing but a trojan horse for the continued marginalisation of Cantonese people. Long live Cantones independence!! Nationalist320 (talk) 10:15, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

the above vietnamese user who is currently living in australia
User:Nationalist320, AKA User:Sea888, AKA USer:David873, crossed the line in his major sockpuppeting here, trying to push a POV that cantonese are vietnamese yueh.

theres an ANI thread on him which mentions you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.83.163.24 (talk • contribs) 2009-02-08T22:57:43

Hua-Yi zhi bian and the Unification of All under Heaven
Hi! If you have time and if you're interested, could you take a look at the above article? It has made lots of progress since an earlier version of it was deleted and since you last looked at it. Your advice would be welcome on how to improve it further, and maybe on how to rename it, because the current title appears a little bulky. Cheers, Madalibi (talk) 10:49, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

comment you posted
"Well, we're talking about identity politics. I don't have a source for it on hand, but I believe Han people are so named as a reference to the Han dynasty itself. And it should be asked, were there really "Han" people before the Han dynasty? Remember, the short-lived Qin dynasty, which came immediately before the Han dynasty, served to unite about 7 different tribes or nations of people, and marked the first unification of China"

WRONG- xia, shang, and zhou dynasty already were untied before zhou split into warring states, they were SAME PEOPLE, NOT DIFFERENT TRIBES. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.155.150.235 (talk • contribs) 2009-02-22T22:59:17

pro mongol editor has been canvassing to delete important chinese article
pro mongol editor has been canvassing to delete the article, Articles for deletion/Mongolia during Tang rule —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.160.248.69 (talk) 02:56, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Hello
As seen on the talk page, you've shown interest in Han Dynasty in the past. I was wondering if you would comment on the talk page about the recent changes I've made to the article, just to see if you think anything extremely relevant is missing. Thanks.-- Pericles of Athens  Talk 19:09, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Really doubt I would spot anything that you missed. But sure, when I have some extra time this weekend, I'll take a look.  Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 20:30, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject interview?
Greetings! I've been writing WikiProject reports for The Signpost lately, and I've decided to do the next one on WikiProject China. Would you be interested in participating in an interview? If you're interested, just leave me a message either here on my talk page. If you're not interested, would you mind suggesting another of the project's members who you believe to be qualified? Thanks! --Cryptic C62 · Talk 20:00, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm really only semi-active on WP these days. But without a doubt, ask User:PericlesofAthens for an interview.  I consider him one of the best editors I've came across and contributes greatly to Chinese history articles.  Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 03:53, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Alrighty, thanks for the tip. --Cryptic C62 · Talk 12:33, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

User:Tenmei
User:Tenmei has filed an ArbCom case against me and I have done a little research on Tenmei and noted you have interacted with this user. Can you help provide an opinion about him? Thanks.Teeninvestor (talk) 22:06, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Link:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Tang_Dynasty/Evidence

Brand Hong Kong
Dear Hong Qi Gong,

I work for the Brand Hong Kong Management Unit. The current Wiki Brand Hong Kong page contains a lot of out-of-date and inaccurate material, so we are trying to update the page. Why did you remove my update of June 16? I included plenty of reference material to justify my changes. I would appreciate it if you reinstate my changes of June 16 - it will save me the time and trouble of doing it again. I have already lost many hours of work trying to find how to contact you!

We also intend entering information about Brand Hong Kong of the main Hong Kong page. We would appreciate it if you do not undo our additions.

Many thanks, Mark. (If you wish pls email brandhk@isd.gov.hk) —Preceding unsigned comment added by PMJ Regan (talk • contribs) 08:32, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Brand Hong Kong 2
You have again reinstated inaccurate and out-of-date information about BrandHK - please refrain from doing it again! We have noted your points and removed anything that might remotely be described as self-promotional from our edit. Nor does any of the new material breach any copyright - all material used is the product of Brand Hong Kong Management Unit - it is our product! We cannot breach our own copyright. I have posted a revised edit today which contains purely factual information about BrandHK and its history. Please bear in mind that we have other changes still to come. For example, the current BrandHK logo on the Wiki page is incorrect so we are going to remove it and post up the correct image in the coming days via Wikipedia Commons. We have a legitimate right to edit inaccurate or out of date information about BrandHK. I have also placed a message for you on my talk page. PMJ Regan (talk) 09:02, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Brand Hong Kong 3
Please stop interfering with our edits! Your logic is flawed and you are acting being the bounds of logic - and outside of Wikipedia's interests. Further obstruction will lead us to seek your removal from Wikipedia's spectrum. Pls see my talk page for further details. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PMJ Regan (talk • contribs) 02:40, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Japanese cultural artifacts controversy
If you have any interest in the matter, please read my comments at Articles for deletion/Japanese cultural artifacts controversy (2nd nomination), and then go ahead and look at the all-new version of Japanese cultural artifacts controversy. I would like to know if this radical change might change some minds. Un sch ool 03:49, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

GA Reassessment of The Rape of Nanking (book)
I have conducted a reassessment of this article as part of the GA Sweeps process. I have found one minor issue which needs addressing, you can see the review page at Talk:The Rape of Nanking (book)/GA1. Thanks. Jezhotwells (talk) 13:28, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * My comment on the issue - . Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 19:12, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Celebrations for 2nd Anniversary of Wikimedia Hong Kong


Dear:  ：

Wikimedia Hong Kong has been founded two year ago. Today, we would like to invite you to a great event for our second anniversary celebrations, that is co-host by us - Digital Content Jam 1.0, which is belongs to The 3C Digital Creativity Dialogue Series -- Creativity, Content, Community.



This is the information of the event：


 * Date: 31, July, 2009 (Friday) 
 * Time: From 7:00pm to 9:30pm 
 * Venue: eTech Centre Meeting Room M2 &3, 4/F Opulent Building, 402-406 Hennessy Road, Wan Chai（Google map） 
 * '''Language: Cantonese
 * Free snacks and drinks will be served!

'''Please register via the link below to tell us if you would like to join the event. Registration Form'''

Regards, Hong Kong Wikimedian Tango Chan×Chat with me 10:32, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Consensus change on ROC/TW
I wanted to let you know that apparently there has been a change in the Wikipedia consensus on the use of "Republic of China (Taiwan)". If you recall (or not) from the discussion 2 years ago, the combination use can be applied for "origin". I'm not sure when it happened, but "origin" is now over on the "Taiwan" column, where "birthplace" was and is. There's also someone on the WPCLE talk page asking us to look at locale conventions again. Arsonal (talk) 23:06, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Japanese people in Flushing, queens
Are there japanese people and bussineses in flushing, queens today? I am just asking this question because, i hear that flushing, queens is a mixture of Chinese, Koreans and Japanese people living in the area having there own communities in flushing. Does flushing, queens have a Japanese expatraite community residing in the flushing area? Also, if there are japanese people living in flushing, queens today, how many japanese people are currently living there today in the area of flushing? (96.232.6.27 (talk) 23:33, 20 August 2009 (UTC)). h
 * I have found no source to indicate that there is a noticeable presence of Japanese population or businesses in Flushing. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 13:20, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Where there ever japanese people living in flushing, queens in the past? Where do japanese people in new york city currently live today? (96.232.152.203 (talk) 15:23, 21 August 2009 (UTC)).
 * I have found no source to indicate there ever was a noticeable Japanese presence in Flushing. And I have no idea where the Japanese people are in New York City.  Maybe you can do some research and find out.  Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 15:31, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Where can i do some research and find out about about the japanese presence in flushing, queens and around new york city? (96.232.152.203 (talk) 16:37, 21 August 2009 (UTC)).
 * I don't know. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 16:39, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

How do you know that there are no Japanese people living in flushing, queens? I hear that Flushing, queens has a large Japanese expatriate community in the area and my source is in the Rego Park, queens article section meaning that there is a japanese presence in flushing. (96.232.152.203 (talk) 21:21, 21 August 2009 (UTC)).
 * Thanks for pointing that out to me. I've removed the unsourced statement about Japanese expatriates in Rego Park moving to Flushing.  Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 01:49, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Is it true that Japanese people in Queens currently live in Sunnyside? I am just asking this question because, when i read the Sunnyside, Queens article section it said that Japanese people are one of the ethnic backgrounds that live in the sunnyside community today meaning that the area has a Japanese presence living in the neighborhood. (96.232.3.156 (talk) 16:06, 22 August 2009 (UTC)).
 * I have no idea. That information is also not sourced.  Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 20:07, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Disputed non-free use rationale for File:WalkLikeAnEgyptian.jpg
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If it is determined that the file does not qualify under the non-free content policy, it might be deleted by an administrator within a few days in accordance with our criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions, please ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thank you. Stifle (talk) 14:57, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Designated survivor
I think this removal was based on a misunderstanding: If I understand the procedure correctly, then it's not for every speech, but only for such special events as state of the Union Addresses and presidential inaugurations. The two addresses before the Joint Session of Congress were special; the media discussed that these amounted to state of the union addresses. That said, http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Steven+Chu%22+%22designated+survivor%22 doesn't seem to yield many reliable references, so it's probably not notable. &mdash; Sebastian 17:03, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh I see. In that case feel free to add it back if you like.  There is actually a short AP article about this - .  Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 17:20, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Happy 's Day!
For a userbox you can add to your userbox page, see User:Rlevse/Today/Happy Me Day! and my own userpage for a sample of how to use it. — Rlevse • Talk  • 00:37, 16 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks! Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 02:43, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Would like to talk to you
Hi there! I'm a reporter based in New York and I noticed you're one of the only two editors on the page Yen Chou. I'd like to speak with you sometime. Please send me an email at thomas.chan@journalism.cuny.edu

Thanks! Thomas
 * We can just speak here. What about Yen Chou do you want to talk about?  Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 03:22, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

File:WalkLikeAnEgyptian.jpg listed for deletion
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Object to your reversion of my update to University Grants Committee
I do not understand why you reverted my update to University Grants Committee. The (British) University Grants Committee was founded in 1918 and existed for 80 years - it was a key institution in UK higher education for all that time and clearly deserves an article in its own right, as a historical record. The reason you give for reverting is incorrect. It is not now the Universities Funding Council - that was a short-lived body. The functions of the UGC are now taken on by HEFCE, SHEFC etc. as mentioned in the article, but as said above the UGC deserves its own article, not as a footnote to HEFCE. With various University Grants Committees/Commissions around the world it makes no sense for the main UGC article to default to the Hong Kong UGC - this should properly be University Grants Committe (Hong Kong) in the style of existing page titles, e.g. University Grants Commission (Bangladesh)

Secondly, why did you not refer to the talk pages before doing this reversion, or join in with the discussion? It was suggested by another user a month ago (21 August) that the page should refer to the original UK UGC, not the Hong Kong one. You could have contributed to this discussion. I would be grateful if you would reinstate my edit. Lonegroover (talk) 13:50, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Edits on Tung Chee Hwa and Chris Patten
Hi, I noticed you undo my edits on succession boxes for Tung Chee Hwa and Chris Patten. I would like to hear your reasons for doing so. I was trying to establish a connection for the switch in government figurehead during the Transfer of sovereignty of Hong Kong. The article at its current state is rather confusing, the figurehead position did not really get abolished nor created in 1997. It was more of a change in title due to a change in government. Here's an example I pulled from Template:S-start page.

Tavatar (talk) 16:50, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't know enough about French history to comment on that table you copied over. HK Governor and Chief Executive are not the same thing.  If people want to read about the transfer of sovereignty, they can read the article on the handover.  Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 00:03, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * What I wanted to point out with the French box is that the intended way to represent a change in sovereignty or government in Wikipedia. The succession box I put in did not state those two are the same thing, it merely mentioned who was the head of the Hong Kong government before and after 1997. Somebody is still in charge of Hong Kong before 30 June 2009 and after 1 July 2009, that person still has the same power, but only with a different title.  That's what my edited in the succession boxes tried to point out.  Here's a quote from the Chief Executive of Hong Kong article.
 * The Chief Executive of Hong Kong (traditional Chinese: 香港行政長官) is the head of the government of Hong Kong and the principal representative of Hong Kong. The position was created to replace the Governor of Hong Kong, who was the head of the Hong Kong government during British rule.
 * The current state of the succession box in Tung Chee Hwa and Chris Patten's article does not include any of detail of what happened to the person in charge of Hong Kong before nor who got the head person after the takeover. It's almost as suggesting Hong Kong went into a state of Anarchy for a period of time with nobody in charge. Tavatar (talk) 15:12, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
 * That's a good point. But the succession box is not for Head of Government of Hong Kong.  The succession box on the Chris Patten article is for Governor of Hong Kong, and the one for the Tung Chee Hwa article is for the Chief Executive of Hong Kong.  Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 16:17, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
 * One is the head of government of Hong Kong for UK, the other one is the head of government of Hong Kong for China, I failed to see how they are completely two completely different things as you stated. Succession boxes are used to show the person before and after him/her in function he/her was in charge of.  WP:SBS explains the function more in detail.  In this case, the name Governor of Hong Kong and Chief Executive of Hong Kong are merely titles under a different government, the real function is head of the government of Hong Kong.  This fits in the category of offices tracked by succession boxes.  It would be fair to say Tung Chee Hwa succeed Chris Patten, Governor of Hong Kong's function as head of Government of Hong Kong under the title Chief Executive of Hong Kong. Tavatar (talk) 17:23, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
 * That's a good point. But the succession box is not for Head of Government of Hong Kong.  The succession box on the Chris Patten article is for Governor of Hong Kong, and the one for the Tung Chee Hwa article is for the Chief Executive of Hong Kong.  Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 16:17, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
 * One is the head of government of Hong Kong for UK, the other one is the head of government of Hong Kong for China, I failed to see how they are completely two completely different things as you stated. Succession boxes are used to show the person before and after him/her in function he/her was in charge of.  WP:SBS explains the function more in detail.  In this case, the name Governor of Hong Kong and Chief Executive of Hong Kong are merely titles under a different government, the real function is head of the government of Hong Kong.  This fits in the category of offices tracked by succession boxes.  It would be fair to say Tung Chee Hwa succeed Chris Patten, Governor of Hong Kong's function as head of Government of Hong Kong under the title Chief Executive of Hong Kong. Tavatar (talk) 17:23, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Userspace
About this edit: apologies if it was unexpected, I was just trying to let you know that templates like, etc., are no longer necessary, since can now do everything that they could. Best, r ʨ anaɢ talk/contribs 21:45, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Keep the Chinabounder page
Some sock puppet are trying to delete this page.--Ksyrie(Talkie talkie) 01:40, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Hong Kong
Well done.  SilkTork  *YES! 14:43, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Hong Kong
I hope this doesn't indicate you're going around removing sources that you can't access. -- Neil N   talk to me  16:28, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok then please find a verifiable source for that statement. Because currently that statement is not sourced.  Thanks.  Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 16:32, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Assuming good faith, it was sourced when the statement was put in. We don't rip out content because the source is temporarily unavailable or goes behind a paywall. -- Neil N  <sup style="font-family:Calibri;"> talk to me  16:36, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
 * The site has come back up and the source does indeed confirm the statement. -- Neil N  <sup style="font-family:Calibri;"> talk to me  17:04, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, the problem was actually the spelling in the URL. I'm going to fix it now.  Interesting article.  Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 17:09, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

hello
Hi, since you're active on Chinese article and can understand korean, I really need help at two clothing article. It's a well known fact that Tang Dynasty's clothing have been influenced by Central Asians (due to Tang's expansion in the area) but those are clothings are like these + +. User Cydevil3 use Korean sources to state that Banbi and Beizi are "adopt" from central asian, and both of these clothings aren't visible in Central Asian clothings. I believe he is using Foreign influences during Tang Dynasty to generalize that all of Tang's clothing are adopt from there. He provided Korean sources I can't read or having the full version of it available. What should i do...and i ask him to provide a link to his sources or translate it at here on oct 27 2009 and he's active after i post that comment on his talk page,,,,he's ignoring me...--LLTimes (talk) 20:55, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't see how he's trying to generalise that all of Tang dynasty clothing were adopted from Central Asia. Those sentences that the sources are linked to are pretty specific to the banbi and the beizi.  Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 07:42, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Which source O_o? can you translate the line for me?--LLTimes (talk) 17:25, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * If you doubt the accuracy of the sources because they are not verifiable, I think the best thing to do is to search for sources that are verifiable online. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 18:21, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * What if you can't find the source online? i only can find the dancing custom source which only talks about dancing clothing (some dancing clothing were influenced by Central asian) but Banbi and Beizi aren't dancing customs or even mentioned. anyway sry to trouble you :( --LLTimes (talk) 20:17, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Edits on an ongoing AfD article
I appreciate your eagerness to go to work, but could you please wait with the editing work as long as the AfD process? Because any large-scale change would just distort the picture of how the article actually has been until this day. I think other users should be given a fair chance to form their own opinion first. Regards Gun Powder Ma (talk) 23:15, 17 December 2009 (UTC)