User talk:Honoredebalzac345

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Edit warring at 2011 NATO attack in Pakistan
Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. You appear to be repeatedly reverting or undoing other editors' contributions at 2011 NATO attack in Pakistan. Although this may seem necessary to protect your preferred version of a page, on Wikipedia this is known as "edit warring" and is usually seen as obstructing the normal editing process, as it often creates animosity between editors. Instead of reverting, please discuss the situation with the editor(s) involved and try to reach a consensus on the talk page.

If editors continue to revert to their preferred version they are likely to lose their editing privileges. This isn't done to punish an editor, but to prevent the disruption caused by edit warring. In particular, editors should be aware of the three-revert rule, which says that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Edit warring on Wikipedia is not acceptable in any amount, and violating the three-revert rule is very likely to result in loss of your editing privileges. Thank you. Horse Eye Jack (talk) 17:01, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

No - false accusation. I only reverted a change ONE TIME on that page - not repeatedly. Reverting a change ONCE does not amount to REPEATEDLY reverting it. ITs not even close to the 3RR rule. Please be careful about your accusations in the future. Honoredebalzac345 (talk) 17:05, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Are you actually new here? Have you ever edited under another name? You appear to be awfully sure of yourself and policy for someone who is theoretically only days old. Horse Eye Jack (talk) 17:08, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Edit warring at Adrian Zenz
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war&#32; according to the reverts you have made on Adrian Zenz; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Points to note: If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Horse Eye Jack (talk) 17:07, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
 * 1) Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

Again - false accusation. REVERTING something ONCE does NOT amount to REPEATEDLY reverting it and engaging in Edit war.

Moreover, the discussions on talk page are mostly about Zenz's book, not criticisms of his work by Chinese government and Chinese state media.

Also - I always offer in my Edit summary to discuss on talk page, and also offer the other editor to revert my revert if they still disagree.

I only see a violation of policy if reverts are made REPEATEDLY, not just ONCE. ONCE is not even close to the 3RR rule.

I am now going to go ahead and create a talk section on the topic anyway. Honoredebalzac345 (talk) 17:13, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
 * 3rr is a bright line but even one revert can be edit warring. Horse Eye Jack (talk) 17:20, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Adrien Zenz is different because its a WP:BLP, please review the special standards for these sorts of pages. We can only use high quality reliable sources, which Chinese state media is not, on articles about living people. Also please answer the question you’ve now been asked twice, have you ever edited before you made this account? Horse Eye Jack (talk) 17:20, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Does even a single revert amount to full-fledged edit warring? In that case, I will check Wikipedia policies and do accordingly.

And no - I have never edited Wikipedia before I created this account - except one small grammatical change I made on a page as an unregistered user few weeks ago. After that I decided to create an account. Honoredebalzac345 (talk) 17:24, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia and copyright
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It just doesn't end
Look what I've just found out. I had thought that Adrian Zenz debacle was over, and I haven't even edited in such topics ever since, and yet now we've been accused of being socks of some other user. I don't know about your situation, but your name was mentioned and I was in the dark as to what was happening until recently as I wasn't even tagged. The way new users are being treated is just appalling. Telsho (talk) 17:11, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

Lol yeah I saw that. They seem to be obsessed with new users - particularly those who fight back against their politicization of Wikipedia and abusive edits. It seems few of them are actually here to build an encyclopedia, but largely to push their political agenda on Wikipedia and hound new users. Honoredebalzac345 (talk) 17:27, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Not to mention users being accused of being a part of some bigger organization. When people constantly makes accusations like that, it really makes you think what the truth really is, doesn't it? Telsho (talk) 18:02, 22 August 2020 (UTC)