User talk:Hoofjr

August 2020
Hi there - Wikipedia relies on reliable sources to verify information, especially about living people. You didn't provide a source for your changes to the Sam Barratt article, but I have found one and added it for you. Please try and remember to include sources yourself with future edits. Please let me know if you have any questions. GiantSnowman 10:50, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

Hello, I'm Materialscientist. I noticed that you made an edit to a biography of a living person, Craig Fagan, but you didn’t support your changes with a citation to a reliable source. Wikipedia has a strict policy concerning how we write about living people, so please help us keep such articles accurate. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Materialscientist (talk) 15:11, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

Your Kt post-nominal edits
Hello, I've reverted these, because they are unexplained major changes to very long-standing text about extremely high-profile people done by a new user. At the very least they need wide discussion somewhere like Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Peerage and Baronetage and/or Wikipedia talk:WikiProject United Kingdom, but I'm not familiar with the area so I don't know where the correct location for such a discussion would be. I notice that Necrothesp has already effectively reverted your removal at Jonathan Pryce. Graham 87 03:44, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, please stop this. Knights Bachelor have no postnominal letters. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:02, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi, thank you for this.

I thought they were given these as it says on the Kt page that  recipients may use the letters "Kt" after their name (note the lowercase "t" which distinguishes it from "KT").

Can you explain to me why they do not have it so I am aware. Graham''' 87 Necrothesp (talk)

Thanks
 * Pinging Necrothesp properly; please sign your messages. I for one had never heard of the "Kt" designation before today but as the article says, they are used 'when the style 'Sir' is awkward or incomplete" (which it isn't in these cases because they haven't had any further relevant honours). It then goes on to say "This style is often adopted by Knights Bachelor who are also peers, baronets, or knights of the various chivalric orders", which doesn't apply here. There are quite a few editors here who know a lot about these sorts of orders and decorations (especially those in the English-speaking world) so I'd tend to defer to their judgement. The only time I've ever encountered a genuine mistake in this area in my fifteen years of editing here was in the article about the Italian opera singer Renata Tebaldi. Graham 87 11:21, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Kt is very occasionally seen as a postnominal, but it is non-standard and generally regarded as incorrect. We do not use it on Wikipedia and it will usually be removed if added. The full "Knight" is sometimes seen, but usually only on very formal documents where all honours are spelled out in their entirety instead of with postnominal letters. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:50, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Necrothesp Graham Hi, thanks for both of your replies, apologies for my mistake. I thought I was doing the right thing. New to this so just trying to get stuck in but obviously messing some things up. Apologies again but thank you for your corrections. Apologies also if I have not pinged you properly. Hoofjr (talk) 00:20, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

Your recent edits
Please see WP:BRD - you were Bold in making edits, I Reverted them, now you're supposed to Discuss. Your edits are disruptive. GiantSnowman 18:01, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Sorry, just seen your talk page post - you need to post at the bottom, not the top. Multiple sections on such a short article are simply not needed. GiantSnowman 18:31, 7 July 2021 (UTC)


 * GiantSnowman - I understand the point you are making but I believe that organsing, even something small, will be better to look at and be easier to find more information rather than a big paragraph with a players history which could be lasting a decade. Would it not be better to look at a player's history per club rather than it all being jumbled up together? Please discuss further. Hoofjr (talk) 16:03, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Not really in situations where the entry for each section would only be a sentence or two. GiantSnowman 17:14, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
 * GiantSnowman A subheading will still organise for future transfers. It may be a sentence or two now but in the future it could really help out with orgaisation, prior preparation. If it hasn't altered any information, I do not see why this is an issue?Hoofjr (talk) 17:20, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Hmm. If it just adding headers - but not adding, taking away, or otherwise re-organising the content - then I suppose there is no real harm. GiantSnowman 17:21, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
 * GiantSnowman Excellent, I'm glad we could resolve this. If it is all ok with you, I will revert the changes made so they will subheadings as before.

OLY postnominals
FYI, I have started a discussion on whether we should use OLY or not at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Olympics, as this would potentially affect thousands of articles. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:39, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

Joseph2302 Thanks for letting me know, I will halt my progress for now until further discussion on it has been carried out. I found a few Olympians with the post-nominal titles so started to add more. I have found articles to say that it is a real thing. Articles like this: https://olympians.org/news/983/oly-post-nominal-letters-to-honour-olympians/#:~:text=World%20Olympians%20Association%20(WOA)%20has,International%20Athletes'%20Forum%20in%20Lausanne.&text=All%20applicants%20will%20receive%20a%20WOA%20certificate%20honouring%20their%20achievements. Hoofjr (talk) 11:43, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi. On the official twitter of WOA here you can find some OLYs. However, whether verified official twitter account could be a reliable source on Wikipedia is debatable. If you are interested in adding OLYs to the correct athletes, my suggestion is that to use the twitter as a "lead" and then try to find more reliable sources like international or national media. --阿pp (talk) 13:37, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

阿pp Thank you for finding that, I have started a talk with the Olympic committee and seeing that information I can find also, so hopefully that will be a positive outcome. Thank you for your helpHoofjr (talk) 13:46, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

June 2022
Please do not add or change content, as you did at Ryan Giggs, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Mattythewhite (talk) 19:50, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of Brooklyn Kabongolo


The article Brooklyn Kabongolo has been ;because of the following concern: "Never played a professional game"

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 * Telfordbuck, reference seven states that his first appearance for the club against Rochdale on 30 September 2023 in a National League match. For more specifics he came on as a substitute in the 92nd minute, he was subbed on for Jack Bridge. Southend United is classified as a professional association football club on Wikipedia so I am not sure how Kabongolo doesn't classify as not having played a professional game? Please could you clarify if I am wrong. Hoofjr (talk) 13:00, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi mate, appreciate your response.
 * Essentially although Southend United are a full time team, the National League is not a professional football league.
 * Telfordbuck (talk) 18:04, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your reply.
 * Unfortunately, I do believe you are incorrect in this statement. If you look on the Wikipedia page for 'National League' it states on the second paragraph The National League is the lowest of the five nationwide professional football divisions in England, below the Premier League and the three divisions of the EFL, and is the top tier of the National League System of non-League football. The National League North and National League South form the sixth tier of professional English football. The National League consisted of only one division until 2004, but expanded as part of an extensive restructuring of the National League System beginning with the 2004–05 season.
 * I therefore believe that the page cannot be deleted.
 * Thanks. Hoofjr (talk) 18:13, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

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