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Question
Hello Beemer, User talk:Beemer69 In regards to your contributions to the Young soulja the realest article could you please explain why you reverted my edit? Those were official links. There are other articles with the same external type of links which are okay to use like on Flo Rida for an example. Please advise. Wefindtalent4u (talk) 05:57, 30 January 2016 (Wefindtalent4u (talk) 01:04, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi, no need to remove a question if I don't get to it right away. Anyway, to answer, most of the links were removed because Wikipedia is not an external link directory. The amount of links in Flo Rida's article (three, same as currently on the YSTR page) is sufficient. Thanks for writing. sixty nine   • speak up •  05:39, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Sourabh J Sarkar - Non Spam
Please read this and tell us if this Spam

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1160108/jsp/saltlake/story_62635.jsp — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bmram1973 (talk • contribs) 09:05, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Well, I'm hardly the only one who thinks it's spam, so you're barking up the wrong tree here, buddy. Cheers. sixty nine   • speak up •  17:15, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

We need your help
User:ItsLassieTime has created a sock and vandalized a page that you reverted. I am giving you a subpoena to testify in my ANI thread that you reverted vandelisim.

-Double-o Marf — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marf Lassie (talk • contribs) 15:57, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Patrol
Hi there! When you tag a page for CSD, please tag it as patrolled! Thank you! --allthefoxes (Talk) 23:57, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

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Hey, can you be reached via email or social media?
--94.246.144.29 (talk) 05:58, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi. Unfortunately I don't do social media, while I prefer to keep conversations between fellow Wikipedians to the talk pages. Sorry. sixty nine   • speak up •  02:54, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

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Mortal Kombat: Deception and tables
Hello Beemer69. I was wondering if you think the Mortal Kombat: Deception could be turned into a table to make it easier to distinguish who are the newcomers with notes. Also, I've been wondering but most of the fighting franchises character list have huge tables that feel like undue weight (MK's one is 160!) which could easily be explained in prose. What do you think? Regards.Tintor2 (talk) 18:28, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Hey, thanks for looking me up. Yeah, I've thought about that for some time in regards to Deception but was too lazy to ever act on it. :') The character chart is OK for the time being, but I'm going to experiment with the merging of MK3/UMK3 and MK4/Gold together in order to reduce the number of boxes (since only a few characters were added to both upgrades) then accordingly making a few tweaks in notes. The biggest issue I have with the list as a whole is all the unregistered newbies chucking wrong note numbers into the boxes, which are often hard to trace. sixty nine   • speak up •  00:55, 30 May 2016 (UTC)


 * I'm not good with tables but if you could make a box for Deception I would appreciate it.Tintor2 (talk) 01:27, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

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Dave Schwartz
The way you were trying to do it, while laudable, would have created another entry in the Wiki dex for someone that already existed there. The problem is traffic related and his original profile was not deleted correctly. I fixed the traffic problem but the dead subject article (no pun intended) remains. I will let someone else fight about that and clean it up. Prefer not to get involved when the kids fight over what needs to be deleted and what doesnt and who gets to do it. Let them burn off the testosterone. Cheers.Sunnydoo (talk) 02:26, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

RE:Footballers
Hi sixtynine,

Thank you for your message, no need to apologize.

I believe that the major issue about footballers' biographies, apart from the risk of fanboyism, is their structure: in the Italian edition of Wikipedia we had long and thorough discussions about this topic, and we realized that the Career section must not have too many paragraphs (for example, Buffon's career with Juventus now has two subsections only). We also try to make sure that the page doesn't overcome a weight of 125 kB (I think the longest football biography on it.wiki is Roberto Baggio's one, which is 135 kB). This isn't a definitive solution, because a lot of new or unregistered users still write about every single goal that a player has scored, but at least the articles are more manageable. In other words, we are preferring quality over quantity by applying the ten-year test and WP:NOTSTATS.

As I wrote on Sadsadas' talk page, one of these days I will ask WikiProject Football's opinion about it.

Greetings,

Dan Kenshi (talk) 11:03, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Talking about enormous biographies, on it.wiki we cronically struggle to mantain some order in Messi and Ronaldo's articles, and it looks like en.wiki suffers from the same issue (Ronaldo's articles weighs an astonishing 258 kB).
 * On the one hand, it's natural that extremely popular players have a lot of supporters who contribute to their articles (not to mention that en.wiki is by far the most "international" wiki); also, footballers like Messi and Ronaldo break records almost every week, so it's not easy to make their articles shorter; but, even so, there's a lot of redundant information: for example, I think it's unnecessary to mention contract extensions, because they're not relevant in the long term, and it's unlikely that a player stays with his team until the contract expires.
 * Also, for what regards international matches, I think there's sometimes too much information about qualifiers: if a player reaches the final phase of the World Cup with his national team, then there's no need to extensively describe what happened during the qualifying stage.


 * As you correctly pointed out, some of these articles really look like books, rather than pages of an encyclopedia. I have to say, though, that most of them seem very well written and sourced, so quality is not an issue, but reading them shouldn't take two hours each. In my opinion, a good example of how a football biography should be like is Gianni Rivera's one. --Dan Kenshi (talk) 23:29, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

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Tekken Characters
The source you're deleting from Gaming Target should be reliable, since the article is written by Matt Swider, who has worked for several other reliable publications, like GamePro, UGO.com, GamesRadar and Machinima.com.

Also, I don't agree with your merges of some of the Tekken character articles (especially considering the current size of the character list article), such as the ones for Lee Chaolan and Bryan Fury. I might revert them, then we can discuss it? Kokoro20 (talk) 05:30, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Hey. I've been redirecting some of the individual articles (at the risk of bloating the main character one, but I've been working on paring that down a little as well) due to what I felt was a lack of notability. They were mostly unsourced original research, bloated costume descriptions and game guide-style content, capped off with minuscule reception sections consisting mainly of de rigueur top-ten lists. The request to expand Lee's reception section went ignored for three years. I searched for additional content on these particular characters but couldn't find anything noteworthy. (I can't find it now to save my life but there was a listing of gaming sources here that were deemed either viable or not viable upon user review.) I admit I probably did jump the gun on Lee and Bryan Fury and won't argue if you ultimately opt to put them back, because you're more experienced than I am with editing VG content, but on the other hand, the likes of Raven, Bob, and Ganryu have threadbare storylines and next to no reception. sixty nine   • speak up •  06:09, 13 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Well, original research and game guide material isn't necessarily a reason for a merge. But I'll ahead and re-instate their articles. I think Bob could get away with having his own article too. I've seen quite a bit of reception for him as well. But I won't revert you on that one quite yet. I'm not sure about Raven and Ganryu.


 * One more thing, do you ever do GAN reviews? There's a Tekken character article or two that I've been wanting to get to GA. Kokoro20 (talk) 06:19, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

I greatly appreciate your asking, but unfortunately I've never done a GAN review. I would like to but lack any experience. (Just curious, what articles did you have in mind?) sixty nine   • speak up •  03:37, 15 November 2016 (UTC)


 * The ones I have in mind are Lili and Ling Xiaoyu. There's at a few others I would like to get to GA sometime as well. If you can't review them, then maybe you can at least help out with these articles? Kokoro20 (talk) 08:43, 15 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Sorry for the late reply, but I see that you did. When I can, I'll look over your edits, as they might be some I wouldn't agree with. I just haven't had much time to work on articles lately. But I do want to get more work done soon enough. Kokoro20 (talk) 08:26, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Elizabeth Wertenberger
Thankyou for creating the deletion nomination for the article on Elizabeth Wertenberger. It takes quite a bit of energy to review the articles to make sure that no one who is notable gets nominated, so it is nice to see others involved in the process.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:27, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Not a problem. I like getting rid of useless junk articles as much as the next person (perhaps a bit too much), plus over time it's helped me to learn what constitutes notability on here and what doesn't. Take care. sixty nine   • speak up •  02:54, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

Talkback
I am conducting a GA Reassessment of Crazy Eddie. Since you are one of the top ten contributors I thought you might want to work on it per my reassessment. Shearonink (talk) 06:06, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

What's wrong with Chinese and Finnish sources?
You said "Delete Not notable; sources therein are in Finnish and Chinese, for cripes' sake. sixtynine • speak up • 22:39, 18 December 2016 (UTC)" in a recent discussion for notability of Chrystal Huff. I do not comment on Huff's notability, but I must say that your argument is not very classy one, in my humble opinion. Iivarius (talk) 04:38, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Changing my UAA report
Did you mean to change my report? I've never seen this error before. Zupotachyon Ping me (talk ⋅ contribs) 04:52, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I didn't know you'd reported that name before I did, until just now. I went back to the page and saw both reports -- yours and mine -- but then I refreshed and yours was gone. sixty nine   • speak up •  04:54, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
 * No, I reported "Poophead210", then your report apparently changed my report to "Hitlrdidnothingwrong" here. No big deal, anyway. Can't figure out how that happened. Zupotachyon Ping me (talk ⋅ contribs) 05:06, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Ah. I now think it was because I'd copied the offending username into that post to copy the template, then forgot to revert it. Oops. :') sixty nine   • speak up •  01:43, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
 * The struggles of being a Wikipedia editor :^) Zupotachyon Ping me (talk ⋅ contribs) 01:44, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

UAA reports on users with no edits
Hi there,

Per the instructions at the top of WP:UAA, please don't report usernames for accounts that have not yet edited. Doing so creates unnecessary work for the admins and UAA clerks, and only advertises names that would otherwise become quickly buried and present no further issues. Note that while there are occasional exceptions, these are very rare, and only in cases of blatant defamation or vulgarity. Thank you. –  Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 01:39, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
 * And again. Could you please acknowledge my message? –  Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 01:32, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

I'm hardly the only one who's been reporting usernames with no edits (which I've done for some time with no issues suddenly until now), so I think you're being a bit harsh with me here. Other admins have at least left notes with rejected submissions rather than just deleting my posts without so much as an explanation. sixty nine  • speak up •  01:40, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Well, yes, but the notes are left to inform users about why their reports have been rejected – in this case, I've explained my reasoning to you personally (and posted the templated comments on several of your reports yesterday). I thought my original message was very pleasant, and not "harsh" in any way. I was disappointed to see that you ignored my message and continued to report inactive accounts, without explaining why you thought my concerns were unjustified. As of late several admins, myself included, have been reaching out to frequent UAA patrollers to ask that they avoid reporting usernames with no edits; as Beeblebrox put it, "It is our responsibility as admins to conscientiously review every report a user makes at UAA, so we have to check for contribs, deleted contribs, and tripping of the edit filter for every one of these reports, only to find out there's nothing there and therefore no problem to be solved." This ties up a lot of time that could be spent dealing with more pressing reports. Further, if a username is truly problematic – offensive, apparently promotional, misleading – then presumably we'd want as few editors and readers to be exposed to it as possible. Unfortunately, when an account with no edits gets reported to UAA, it makes its way into logs, edit histories, watchlists, and so on, where otherwise it would fall through the cracks and be visible only to the most vigilant patrollers. This seems to undermine the purpose of reporting and blocking a problematic username. I thank you for your response and consideration. –  Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 01:55, 17 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Just to add my own input here, you are correct that you are not the only one doing this. That is why Julian, myself, and others have been reaching out to users who do it and asking them to please stop doing so. WP:UAAI contains the instructions that reporting users are expected to be familiar with, and has contained the instruction to wait until the user edits for about six and a half years, so this isn't anything new or just our opinons, neither is it personal. We are simply trying to reduce the number of reports that do not actually require administrator attention and would appreciate your help in accomplishing this. Beeblebrox (talk) 02:27, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

January 2017
Hey, Beemer - I see you undid my changes to Mary Lou Jepsen. I was in the process of adding links to verify that she a/ has left Facebook (that's been public for a few months) and b/ links to her new company and c/ her joining the board of Lear. And I corrected her birthday.

Please explain the deletion.

- john — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnconorryan (talk • contribs) 02:41, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
 * If you were planning to add sources, apologies for the revert, but be sure to mention that in the edit summary. In the meantime, while such contributions may be factual, without sources they also constitute original research and -- with or without citations -- conflict of interest, which are usually the case with edits made by users closely affiliated with a particular article subject. sixty nine   • speak up •  02:56, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

- beemer ... thanks for the comments; I did add citations, apologies for any confusion. // jcr — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnconorryan (talk • contribs) 01:00, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Also make sure to put four tildes ( ~ ) at the end of your comments on discussion pages to add your signature. I'm done nagging you now, I promise. :') sixty nine   • speak up •  16:29, 20 January 2017 (UTC)