User talk:Hopefull Innformer

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Talk: Yasuke
Just a reminder in your time participating in Talk:Yasuke that repeatedly accusing people who do not agree with you of "being from twitter" is a violation of No personal attacks and Assume Good Faith. Please refrain from doing so, as it is unhelpful and a violation of Wikipedia policies. X0n10ox (talk) 02:43, 19 May 2024 (UTC)


 * X0n10ox "being from twitter" is in no way shape or form a "Personal attack, my good sir. It was a conclusion based on your wording about a japanese youtuber talking about Yasuke 'being a Samurai' I saw that video and he's not even a reliable source, since he engages in the lax usage of the American English language which uses the word Warrior/Samurai as interchangeably, if they were the Japanese wouldn't have different words for it. If a moderator thinks "Okay you clearly come from twitter" believes that is in any way a "personal attack" by any means I'll edit that part out and apologize, but again there is nothing "personal" in telling you 'Oh you came from X', the only one breaking a rule here is you since you are assuming bad faith from that sentence about twitter and not good faith. Hopefull Innformer (talk) 06:06, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
 * It is, in fact, a personal attack. I remind you once again that in accordance with NPA, WP:NICE and GOODFAITH, that proclaiming anyone who disagrees with you "must be from twitter" is inferring that the person in question is not operating in good faith. You know very well that repeatedly commenting that people must be from twitter is implying that the people in question are either maliciously operating on Wikipedia in support of an agenda at worst, or at best you're off-handedly dismissing people because you have deemed them as 'from Twitter'. Since you have responded in a way that suggests it was a one off instance that I am reading bad faith into, I am attaching a bunch of quotations.
 * You have repeatedly inferred that other editors be dismissed or diminished their contributions by accusing them of being motivated by the Ubisoft game, or accusing them of being "from Twitter". Setting aside the fact that "people from Twitter" is usually used derorgatively to imply someone has leftwing ideologies, you accuse people who disagree with you of being  "just people who don't care for integrity or accuracy", even going as far as saying that User:Theozilla of being "insincere".  Per PA calling someone "insincere" or "lax" and going "whatever inaccurate narrative you want to push" all fall within the bounds of Personal Attack:
 * Using someone's affiliations as an ad hominem means of dismissing or discrediting their views—regardless of whether said affiliations are mainstream. An example could be, "You're a railfan so what would you know about fashion?" Note that it is not a personal attack to question an editor about their possible conflict of interest on a specific article or topic; but beware – speculating on the real-life identity of another editor may constitute outing.
 * Insulting or disparaging an editor is a personal attack regardless of the manner in which it is done.
 * The point of bringing the point to your Talk Page is to attempt a resolution without having to bring the Admins in on it. X0n10ox (talk) 08:38, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
 * You have repeatedly inferred that other editors be dismissed or diminished their contributions by accusing them of being motivated by the Ubisoft game, or accusing them of being "from Twitter". Setting aside the fact that "people from Twitter" is usually used derorgatively to imply someone has leftwing ideologies, you accuse people who disagree with you of being  "just people who don't care for integrity or accuracy", even going as far as saying that User:Theozilla of being "insincere".  Per PA calling someone "insincere" or "lax" and going "whatever inaccurate narrative you want to push" all fall within the bounds of Personal Attack:
 * Using someone's affiliations as an ad hominem means of dismissing or discrediting their views—regardless of whether said affiliations are mainstream. An example could be, "You're a railfan so what would you know about fashion?" Note that it is not a personal attack to question an editor about their possible conflict of interest on a specific article or topic; but beware – speculating on the real-life identity of another editor may constitute outing.
 * Insulting or disparaging an editor is a personal attack regardless of the manner in which it is done.
 * The point of bringing the point to your Talk Page is to attempt a resolution without having to bring the Admins in on it. X0n10ox (talk) 08:38, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Using someone's affiliations as an ad hominem means of dismissing or discrediting their views—regardless of whether said affiliations are mainstream. An example could be, "You're a railfan so what would you know about fashion?" Note that it is not a personal attack to question an editor about their possible conflict of interest on a specific article or topic; but beware – speculating on the real-life identity of another editor may constitute outing.
 * Insulting or disparaging an editor is a personal attack regardless of the manner in which it is done.
 * The point of bringing the point to your Talk Page is to attempt a resolution without having to bring the Admins in on it. X0n10ox (talk) 08:38, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

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There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. X0n10ox (talk) 08:56, 19 May 2024 (UTC)