User talk:Horang2022

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Happy editing! ~ ToBeFree (talk) 13:09, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

January 2022
 You have been blocked from editing from certain pages (Lilka) for a period of 2 weeks for edit warring. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 13:09, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

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Violations of the biographies of living persons policy or the edit warring policy (which isn't limited to the three-revert rule) may lead to a topic ban without further warning. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 13:12, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Unblock request for topic block

 * The block is about your behavior, not others'. You have edit warred to include content without having obtained the necessary consensus to do so (WP:ONUS), knowing that your addition was being objected to. You have mentioned "3RR" in your edit summary, so you knew that the edit warring policy exists.
 * Just to avoid any impression of personal bias, the other user has not been blocked because the edit warring policy contains an explicit exemption for removing "material that is libelous, biased, unsourced, or poorly sourced" about living people. With WP:BURDEN and WP:ONUS in mind, blocking someone for removing disputed material is something I usually avoid. It's perfectly fine if the material is kept out of the article until a consensus for inclusion is found; it's disruptive to edit war it back into the article without such consensus. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 13:44, 22 January 2022 (UTC)


 * I made 3RR but Reiro made 4RR or 3RR. Because source from Shinmoongo News contains a screenshot of Korean Intellectual Property Office database, there is no doubt for Lilka's real name. I posted my opinion to Talk:Lilka before revert Reiro's editing, but Reiro did not. I did not violated three-revert rule. Other informations are also supported by many inline citations. I should be unblocked and Reiro should be blocked. Removal of Verifiable and sourced material are not Exempted by 3RR rule.
 * On the other hands, I told to Reiro there is no doubt for Lilka's real name and told that one secondary source contains reliable primary-source material. Applying WP:BURDEN to block me and not block Reiro is highly unfair. I am obeyed WP:BURDEN but Reiro did not.
 * 08:36, 22 January 2022‎ Horang2022 talk contribs‎ 8,067 bytes +1,952‎  Because three sources about her real name are independent and WP:BLPPRIMARY said that where primary-source material has been discussed by a reliable secondary source, it may be acceptable to rely on it to augment the secondary source, they are reliable source. Namiwiki is not reliable source. Please participate discussion and do not make edit war. undo Tags: Undo Reverted
 * 08:13, 22 January 2022‎ Horang2022 talk contribs‎ 8,067 bytes +1,952‎  Lilka is not private individual because Lilka made many self-promotional activities. On the other hands, Lilka's real name was mentioned in independent three reliable sources. Furthermore, Lilka intentionally mentioned her name in her internet broadcasting. undo Tag: Reverted
 * Reiro should be blocked and I should be unblocked, regardless temporary state of the article during discussion. Horang2022 (talk) 14:12, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello, Horang2022,
 * Not all information that is verifiable should necessarily be included in an article. WP:BLP takes precedence in most disputes. You'll need to go to WP:BLPN if you want to include this information. This has to stop being an edit war between two editors and you need feedback from editors who are uninvolved in this dispute. If you return from your block and continue to insist on including this information in the article, it could result in a longer and more extensive loss of editing privileges. I think you should drop your insistence on what you want and bring this conflict to the attention of other editors who could support your interpretation of policy or disagree with you. Liz Read! Talk! 03:04, 24 January 2022 (UTC)