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Good work you've been doing on the Watford page, let's hope we can be updating the page at the end of the season to say we've been promoted! Worldtraveller 22:54, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

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Your Table
I would just like to say that I think your table of the Watford squad, I feel, is infinitely better than the current one. I posted a message on the Watford discussion board under it, but, as it is your table, I thought I'd put a message here aswell. I am really keen on using that table as a base instead of the current one on all football articles. Feel free to say what you think on my talk page. Also, thanks for finishing off the managers table, much appreciated. Cheers! Kingfisherswift 17:43, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Read your message about the table - shame it won't be used, I think it's rally good. I think I'll write the Darius Henderson article, him and Bouazza have to be done. I f we don't beat Leeds I do think I will die of disappointment - we have had such a good season. YELLOW ARMY Kingfisherswift 15:13, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Cool - I have meant to work on the history for ages - it's got nothing before 1977 !?! I'll do Bouazza now, then see if I cn find anything pre-77 to help with. Cheers, Kingfisherswift 16:02, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

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First post
Thanks. - Motor (talk) 21:01, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

FIFA World Cup squad
Please see Talk:2006 FIFA World Cup (squads) before you revert edit!!!

the club section should be the club in 2005/2006 season.Matthew hk 16:17, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

I have replied in the talk section. HornetMike 16:25, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Seeking an opinion
As an experienced Wikipedian with an interest in football pages, your opinion would be welcomed on a discussion at Talk:Swansea City A.F.C.. After various attempts to add a site with no original content, the site's owner has now recruited someone else to do the same. The question is this: am I correct to delete links to sites which themselves consist of others' copyrighted material and links to other sites? Given the paucity of real content, I have a strong suspicion that the site is operated on a "cash for clicks" basis.

I would like, ultimately, to see the Swansea City A.F.C. Wikipage reach Featured standard, so I am inviting opinions from Wikipedians with sustantial edit histories. Thank you for your time. - Stevecov 14:25, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Hot Fuzz
Hi Mike. My source is boxofficemojo.com, which is by far the most reliable source for release dates on the web. The UK release I got off IMdB, which I normally avoid like the plague as it is pretty much all useless gossip, the date there makes sense in relation to the US date. boxofficemojo is cited in all the recent years in film except 2007, where I must have forgotten to list it (good job you reminded me). Hope that helps, Rje 00:23, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

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Watford FC - the cashmore connection
Hi HM - saw your edit about those players - I'd be interested in your views at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Denis_William_Cashmore

(since you seem to know a lot about the club).

--Charlesknight 00:19, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Please help on William Shakespeare
Posted by PruneauT 01:07, 20 June 2006 (UTC) on behalf of the AID maintenance team.

Your edit to Wayne Rooney
Your recent edit to Wayne Rooney (diff) was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to recognize and repair vandalism to Wikipedia articles. If the bot reverted a legitimate edit, please accept my humble creator's apologies – if you bring it to the attention of the bot's owner, we may be able to improve its behavior. Click here for frequently asked questions about the bot and this warning. // Tawkerbot2 10:42, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Err, yeaah. Someone reverted some vandalism but the bot obviously did it at the same time and put it back in. So I removed it and you did it again! HornetMike 10:45, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Green template background
I hadn't noticed because it's something that only occurs when using Internet Explorer, which I hate and won't use. Thanks for bringing it to my attention, I'll try to fix it.  SLUMGUM   yap    stalk    23:48, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Keith Warn
Former Watford goalkeeper, played 3 league games just after Watford got into the league. I think he played a lot more for them non-league and I wondered what you could dig up about him. The only link I can find is this. The interest comes about from the fact that he umpires at our cricket club and I want to surprise him with some facts :) P.S. Keep up the good work --Bedders 10:05, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
 * What's your interest in him? Read what I wrote more carefully :) He played with Bobby Moore for London Schools, and against Jimmy Greaves at reserve team level.  A very interesting man. --Bedders 13:13, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Recently featured articles
Re: your edit here. I removed those other pictures from the list because I thought the list was getting too long, and the comment on the top of the page does say to stop it getting overly long. It also says to put in the date the article/picture became featured, so that's why I put those dates on. Raven4x4x 09:42, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

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Everton F.C. FAC
As Veila has replied to you in the discussion that edit about Manchester United has been removed qhich should satisy your objection. SenorKristobbal 13:08, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

POV image
I have read that before, but the consensus seems to be that all "most likely" teams be removed, while only one person (Dodge) wants all images of starting line-ups gone, with no explanation as to why. The Brøndby 04-05 starting line-up is based on most appearences that season, and also shows the last Brøndby team to win a trophy. Why is that point-of-view?

The image was originally made to illustrate the team under coach Michael Laudrup, but my current plan is to expand the "Former players" section with info in the style of the Per Bjerregaard article (landmark transfers, money made from player sales, being a development club and so on) and include the image as illustration of more than half the players being sold in a span of two years. Until that section is written, though, I've "parked" the image at its current position. Poulsen 22:22, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

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Re: Featured Pictures ordering
Hi, Mike. I'm not sure which page you're referring to; lists of featured pictures are all over Wikipedia. I assume you mean this one: Template:Announcements/New_featured_pages. Assuming that's the page you mean, I reordered the entries because the procedures here: Closing procedure, "When promoted..." say "Date, then alphabetical order" in step 3. Logically that means increasing for both (1...31 for date and a...z for alphabetical order), otherwise it might say "Reverse date, then alphabetical order." In truth I have no great preference for any particular order, and only reordered the list there to comply with the procedure. Note that steps 3 - 7 all specify places to add featured pictures to, and that all of them specify a different preferred order for entries. 3 says "Date, then alphabetical order." 4 says "newest on bottom." 7 says "newest on top." 5 and 6 simply warn that images by Wikipedians should be listed in a different section than images by others found by Wikipedians.

Those guidelines have been around for longer than I've been around. If there's a discussion somewhere in which the preferred order was changed, then I guess nobody got around to updating the procedures on the page I referenced. -- Moondigger 11:27, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

League Cup stats in infoboxes
I spent quite a bit of last night updating Watford's infobox stats, as whoever did them left out all FA Cup/League Cup/Johnstone whatever appearances and goals. Someone's reverted one of them saying League Cup appearances don't count. That's not the case, is it? If so, that's utterly ridiculous. HornetMike 13:06, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

My understanding is that only league appearances & goals should be shown in the infobox. The note at the foot of the infobox says  "* Professional club appearances and goals counted for the domestic league only."

I'm sure that this is mentioned under the guidelines for creating infoboxes but I cannot find it at the moment. I guess this is because it's hard to get reliable stats for cup & other non-league appearances for players from earlier generations or from overseas, and the information in the infobox should be shown on a consistent basis.

I hope this is of help.--Daemonic Kangaroo 13:17, 15 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for that, it's been very helpful. Cheers, HornetMike 13:46, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Joe O'Ceauruill
I'll check it out. One site said he may have had a trial at Orient after being released by Watford, rather than it being a loan, but others said it was a loan so I went with them. I'll get on the case. Qwghlm 21:58, 2 November 2006 (UTC)


 * OK, sorted. The source I had mainly used was the Arsenal official site, and it turns out they're wrong - the Orient site has the relevant stats and details. Have updated the article accordingly. Qwghlm 23:00, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Paul Fairclough
Hi Mike - yes, I'm a Barnet fan, but no, I don't know when PF's birthday is. And - being on the other side of the world from my old home town, I haven't really got any easy way of finding out. I'd try some of the other regular editors of that page - User: Kickit might have some idea. Grutness...wha?  22:24, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Ronnie Jepson
I'll ask the admin of our message board, he's bound to know..... ChrisTheDude 09:13, 8 November 2006 (UTC)


 * 15th November 2005 apparently, that would have been the date he was appointed on a caretaker basis.... Should have looked at the article first :-P ChrisTheDude 21:59, 8 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Bizarrely, when it was announced that RJ was the permanent manager, it was actually confirmed that he'd in fact already been made permanent some months earlier and it had just never been announced at the time (why it was done like this is anyone's guess but then anything's possible where Mr Scally's involved). The actual date when he'd been appointed permanently was never actually stated, as far as I know.... ChrisTheDude 22:07, 8 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I found this. It doesn't mention the reports that he'd already been made permanent a couple of months before this story came out, so maybe I imagined them or someone was BS'ing.... :-) ChrisTheDude 21:05, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Vote for TP out of WC and club

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Please go to Templates_for_deletion/Log/2006_November_17 and Templates_for_deletion/Log/2006_November_21 to vote. Matthew _hk t  c  15:00, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Theo Robinson
Hi, I noticed you reverted Theo Robinson being number 36, stating in the history "he isn't". According to the soccerbase Watford page he is. Thanks, Mattythewhite 19:59, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

List of managers
No worries - wasn't sure how relevant it was to the article, but it's a good study and should be referenced somewhere in Wikipedia. :) Qwghlm 19:59, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

The peer review has been inactive for a while and I think it is ready for FL. You could consider ending it per Peer review/Request removal policy and nominating at Featured list candidates. I'd be very happy to nominate it for you, but you may prefer to do it yourself. Colin°Talk 14:02, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

"Creating" a Role
Hi! I notice that you have changed references to "creating" a role in a play to "playing" a role in at least a couple of articles. Counter-intuitive as that may seem, it is fairly common usage (and more precise) to refer to the first person to have played a role on stage as having created the role. The theatre publication Playbill has used the phrase with respect to James Corden and Russell Tovey, whose articles you changed, saying that Richard Griffiths, who played Hector "created the role at the National Theatre in England (as did the entire company)." See http://www.playbill.com/news/article/100207.html Burnley 18:58, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Danny Invincible
Hi Mike, re: your comment about Danny's username. Very minor differences in usernames such as the inclusion or omission of one letter or using alternative characters to create the appearance of letters in names that can easily be confused with notable people or other Wikipedia users are treated the same as exact replications. Deizio talk 21:06, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Fair use images
Yeah, they definitely should be cut - the rules say they cannot be used for decorative purposes. Qwghlm 18:02, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Cricket Infobox
Hello Mike. Your update to Shanthakumaran Sreesanth isn't actually up-to-date at all. Are you updating the full box? Blnguyen (bananabucket) 23:55, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Play-off appearances
Thanks, I'll keep note of that. -- Mattythewhite 07:52, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Les Taylor (footballer), was selected for DYK!
Thanks for your contributions!  Nish kid 64  22:31, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

RFA announcements
A note of caution, there's a certain element of RFA regulars who have a strong dislike of any form of announcements outside RFA itself due to perceptions of votestacking. Its not going to be a problem with Qwghlm or Daniel.Bryant as they're both looking like landslides anyway, but on a delicately balanced RFA it sometimes results in people going Oppose - advertising of RFA or somesuch. Oldelpaso 19:05, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
 * RFA can be a strange world - its talk page always has some wikidrama or other on it. Advertising is normally only an issue if the nominee does it, but treading carefully is never a bad idea. Oldelpaso 19:21, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar
You're long overdue one of these. Whenever I see news about a change of manager, I look at List of English Football League managers by date of appointment and you've already updated it. Oldelpaso 19:21, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Feyenoord PR
Would you mind reformatting your comments and removing some/all the horizontal lines? Lines should be used between posts not within them, and it kinda breaks it up unnecessarily... I'd do it myself but I'd thought I go by Wikiquette first... Cheers. Qwghlm 12:17, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Colin Lee
Hi,

He's now Director of Football at Torquay and acting as manager until one is appointed (which could be a long wait), so I think he can be called the manager for the time being. Think this only happened yesterday, so date would need adjusting. WikiGull 15:26, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Keith Curle was appointed as Head Coach yesterday, and yes it's safe to assume that he's the manager (it's not the first time that we've not had anyone called manager!) WikiGull 14:58, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

RE: Demerit
Yeah, you're right there abuot vice-captains. I'll leave it blank. Sorry bou' that :) к1иg f1$н £я5ω1fт 19:57, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Colly
Despite you being a Hornet fan (with my lot being robbed last weekend) I just wanted to say thanks for your comments on the peer review of Paul Collingwood. I've responded to each in turn, and implemented almost all of them. While you claimed brevity, I found them to be pretty useful, and thorough in their dissection of the article. Very much appreciated. Hopefully you'll be up for doing this again when I attack another cricket bio...! The Rambling Man 18:45, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Colly
Hey, just wanted to say thanks for your comments during the peer review of Paul Collingwood, it was promoted to featured article status this morning! The Rambling Man 10:04, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Gilly
Hey, thanks for your interest in the Adam Gilchrist article, I noticed you made a few mods. I've rephrased the section which you tagged with a so I was hoping you could give your opinion at some point in the FA nom. Cheers! Oh, and good luck today, surely a semi-final place in the bag?! The Rambling Man 11:51, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Deleted articles
Yes they are, tag them with db-repost. Might be a good idea to stick the wikilink to the relevant AfD in the edit summary or something so that admins know where to go. Not much time on my hands atm but if I get a chance later this afternoon I'll go through them. Qwghlm 12:58, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Simon Pegg
Hi, HornetMike. Sorry about the late reply — I was off-wiki for most of the day. I've removed the "Simon Pegogetz" bit from the article, and left a note for the anon explaining some relevant Wikipedia policies. I've added Simon Pegg to my watchlist, and will try to keep an eye on it. Ideally, the anon will either give up, or engage in discussion on the talk page. If he continues to edit war, I'll take further action.

(Oh, and you didn't break the 3RR — you reverted three times, which is fine. If you had reverted once more, you would have been in violation, but you sensibly stepped back at that point.) —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 04:21, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Marquee player
Thanks for your comments at the Mariners' FAC. I have responded, to fix three of the four issues you brought up (one to come). However, I must disagree with you on the marquee one; please note my response. Although it is my fault for not referencing that sentence properly, I'd appreciate it if you could read over my reply and note your agreement or continued objection to the wording (which could change shortly to explain "marquee" better). Cheers,  Daniel Bryant  07:54, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Ipswich Town F.C.
Thanks for the comments at the article talk page. As ever, you've been thoughtful and constructive and, even where I disagree with you, eminently sensible. Please do contribute when we bring Norwich City F.C. to peer review and FAC in the next few weeks. --Dweller 13:02, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Notability (people)
Hi, seeing you are interested in football this is an invitation to contribute to this discussion to clarify certain issues about football player notability. I think clearer guidelines are needed to avoid repeated inappropriate nominations for deletion and time consuming discussions. Cheers! StephP 20:29, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

ITFC FA
Hey Mike, thanks to your comments and some good hard graft from a budgie, we've got the ITFC article promoted to Featured Article status. Awesome. When you get a chance, we're currently working on the Norwich City F.C. article. It's in a bad state right now, but you've got to start somewhere - comments always welcome! Cheers for your help, The Rambling Man 07:23, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * (blatantly copied from another comment by TRM :D) Hey Mike, just wanted to drop by to thank you for your comments in the FAC of the Central Coast Mariners FC article. You may be interested to know it achieved featured article status today. Thanks for your insightful suggestions and for helping in assisting the article's promotion. Cheers!  Daniel Bryant  00:50, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

WP Football Deletion Archive
Sorry! I didn't even know there was such a thing, I must have just missed it! I'll remember that from now on!  Asics   talk  Editor review! 19:32, 7 April 2007 (UTC)


 * What do I do about merges and moves, do they still go in the deletion archive?  Asics   talk  Editor review! 18:33, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I've asked Elison and he says he's not 100% certain, but he does. So I think that means yes!   Asics   talk  Editor review! 18:55, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

NCFC peer review
Hell's teeth HornetMike! Thanks terribly for all that lot, me and the Budgieboy will, as ever, deal with each and every point. Cheers for your time and effort! The Rambling Man 15:40, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Relegation
Hi, thanks for your message. Nice to know that us being relegated to near oblivion is not well liked by most footy fans. Can't see us coming back up very quickly, though if we get some decent owners in rather than the various muppets who've mismanaged the club for the past few years then we might stand a chance (biggest mistake we made was getting promoted a couple years ago, completely stuffed us!). Shame about your result on Saturday, good luck for getting back into the Premiership (would say good luck for avoiding relegation, but I really don't see that happening).

At least it'll mean I have fewer player articles to continually update next season! WikiGull 15:26, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

WFC
No problem. I understand the logic. On a side-note, I'm pretty sure Watford FC can make it back up in a couple of years. Good luck on that. Though, the captivating headline this weekend is going to be regarding the battle at the top. It looks like it will be a race to the finish. Personally, I hope Chelsea snatch the Premiership but then lose to Liverpool in the Champ League semis (and Liverpool go on to lift the trophy again). Hehe... I support LFC, of course. Keep up the good work. Zuracech lordum 23:26, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Norwich City F.C.
Hey HornetMike, hope the depression is lifting a bit! Thanks for your comments on the Norwich City F.C. peer review. I just wanted to let you know that User:Dweller and I have implemented a load of changes and have now nominated the article for WP:FA. If you'd like to make a comment, you can find the discussion here. Once again, thanks for your time and interest. The Rambling Man 16:04, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Unilaterally removing material from articles
I notice that you have been unilaterally removing material from club articles. This is a bad practice and where the material is sourced is getting very close to vandalism. It is also against Wikipedia editing practices. Removing the Robbie Williams section from the Port Vale article is a case in point. That section was sourced and the Robbie Williams involvement is hugely significant in the context of the club. What you should do is raise your concerns on the article talk page - we edit by consensus not by unilateral actions by previously uninvolved editors. I strongly advise you to reconsider your approach. BlueValour 23:47, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi, I'll reply here seeing as I think what's you said you do on your talk page. Apologies if you, um, weren't! Anyway, just to explain I was taking the oppurtunity when updating league placings to remove sections I felt obviously disregarded policy and decisions made on WP:FOOTBALL. That mainly meant stuff that was fairly obvious - trvia sections, link farms and other miscellany. Celebrity fan sections too - but we'll bring that up on the WikiProject. I didn't think that required consensus in order to remove any of it. The Robbie Williams thing was my mistake - I meant only to delete the song bit, which was fairly trivial, even if it was sourced. I suppose, in retrospect, I would be polite to post a message on talk page if I'm removing sourced material, even if it is (at least in my view) policy violation. Will do that in future. Cheers, HornetMike 09:26, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Emilio Nsue AfD
I was looking at a different page with an automated tool, but this one was highlighted elsewhere and got the nom meant for the other. If you want to go forward, that's up to you. :) DarkAudit 22:22, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Featured article candidates/Derry City F.C./archive2
Would you be willing to add your support to the nomination of Derry City F.C. for FA status? Cheers. Danny InvincibleTalk 13:04, 21 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I think most of the issues you raised in relation to the article have been resolved. Maybe you'd have another look? Cheers. Danny InvincibleTalk 11:08, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Template:Announcements/New featured pages
Hi Mike. I just noticed you updated this page for new featured articles. I just updated it the other day with the new articles that Raul promoted on 6/1. Wonder if you could revert or at least leave the newest promotions intact. Thanks. Cricket02 14:21, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, okay. Rats.  There were 14 that day, and of course mine is the 14th. Seems there is room for the extra 4?  Everyone works so hard on them seems only fair they all appear, at least until the next promotions....  Anyway,  thanks for all you do.  Cricket02 14:51, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Frank Barson
I am currently trying to get this article up to GA status. The Watford section is lacking a bit and Oldelpaso said you are a Watfrod expert so i was wondering do you have any information on him thanks (Everlast1910(Talk) 12:58, 15 August 2007 (UTC))

Mighty hornets
Just thought I'd pop over to say through gritted teeth well done on Saturday. Looks like it could be an interesting season... The Rambling Man 07:12, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Nick Smith (footballer)
Hi. I just noticed you nominated Nick Smith (footballer) for deletion. I created the page and actually totally agree with you. His stats on List of Bradford City A.F.C. players were wrong and I've just actually deleted him from that list since he never played a game. To be honest, he doesn't meet criteria. Peanut4 23:19, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Just got your message. I've tagged the initial entry for deletion. Peanut4 23:22, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Managerial changes
Hi there, I noticed the note you attached to your edit of 2007-08 in English football earlier today. It is an interesting point you make. I've started a discussion on the talk page. Peanut4 17:06, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Featured List of the Day Experiment
There have been a series of proposals to initiate a Featured List of the Day on the main page. Numerous proposals have been put forth. After the third one failed, I audited all WP:FL's in order to begin an experiment in my own user space that will hopefully get it going. Today, it commences at WP:LOTD. Afterwards I created my experimental page, a new proposal was set forth to do a featured list that is strikingly similar to my own which is to do a user page experimental featured list, but no format has been confirmed and mechanism set in place. I continue to be willing to do the experiment myself and with this posting it commences. Please submit any list that you would like to have considered for list of the day in the month of January 2008 by the end of this month to WP:LOTD and its subpages. You may submit multiple lists for consideration.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:LOTD) 17:38, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Looking for some an old Watford result
Hi Mike - I have a favour to ask. I'm currently trying to get the article on Herbert Chapman up to GA or FA status - in the biography of him I have, it notes his final match for Northampton Town (the club he was player-manager of) occurred in Southern League in 1908-09, but doesn't give the exact date. It occurred sometime over the Christmas/New Year period, and was against Watford, in which Watford won 4-1. Do you have any Watford books or stats websites at hand that could tell me the exact date that match was played? Google has given me nothing useful. Many thanks in advance. Qwghlm (talk) 14:25, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Where you been?
Taking Portman Road's virginity, I expected at least a na-na-ne-na-na....! Glad to see your name on some WP:FOOTBALL stuff! The Rambling Man (talk) 16:23, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Hertfordshire Rangers F.C.
I have created a stub article on Hertfordshire Rangers F.C. who appear to be one of the fore-runners of Watford F.C., but I am a bit confused about their history. Unfortunately the Watford F.C. article says little about the very early history. My searches on the web have come up with several very different versions.

Here it says "Formed around 1865, Rangers featured in the FA Cup between 1875 and 1881. In 1898 they merged with Watford St Peters to form the modern Watford FC.", which was the basis for my initial article. Here, however, it says "In December 1870, the Watford Observer carried a report on Hertfordshire Rangers - the forerunners of Watford Rovers. Watford Rovers was formed by a group of lads in 1881 who had been given permission by the Earl of Essex to kick a football around in Cassiobury Park. In 1882, home games began in Vicarage Meadow and a year later, the club's name was changed to West Herts. In 1898, a rival club, Watford St Mary's, was absorbed by West Herts and the name 'Watford' was formally adopted."

Version 3 says "The club takes the year of its formation as 1881 when Watford Rovers was formed. This club amalgamated in 1890 with West Hertfordshire Rangers, believed to have been formed in 1865. In 1896, the club joined the Southern League Second Division, turning professional the following year. For a period the town boasted two professional clubs but it quickly became clear that this was not sustainable and in 1898, West Herts Rangers and Watford St Mary’s FC merged to form Watford FC."

Finally, we have "They were formed in 1881 as Watford Rovers. They later merged with Hertfordshire Rangers and Watford St Mary’s to become Watford FC."

Unfortunately, the history section of the club's own website is "under construction" so is of no help at all at present. Can you clarify the position and perhaps include a brief summary of the early history in the Watford article, and correct any errors in the Herts Rangers page. Cheers. --Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 13:03, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

:)
yea...preview is a good idea! (comment reg Steve Kabba) ;) Was myself wondering for a moment if I was dealing with a sophisticated vandal! Prashanthns (talk) 00:00, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

WP:LOTD
List of English Football League managers by date of appointment was selected as one of the top WP:LOTDs for June and will be the LOTD twice during the month. Let me know before May 23rd if you have nay date preferences.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 01:49, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Kelly Grovier
Hi Mike! I'm a bit new to this and just wondered: the helpful change that you made to this poet's page seem to have altered the way that the snippet for the wiki page looks when Googled (try Googling "Kelly Grovier", and you'll see what I mean! Rather than giving the first line or two of the article, it now gives the catergory fields "ALTERNATIVE NAMES. SHORT DESCRIPTION, Academic and poet. DATE OF BIRTH. PLACE OF BIRTH, United States. DATE OF DEATH. PLACE OF DEATH", which isn't really what a surfer wants.)  Is there a way of fixing this, do you think?? I'd love to know for future as it has happened to pages I've edited too! Thanks Mike! --Stcomberbache (talk) 11:07, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for getting back to me. I've consulted the "Wikipedia:WikiProject Persondata" page and it recommends the following: "The persondata template should be appended to each article between the end of the main body and the start of the categories (or, if present, before the DEFAULTSORT template)." I see, though, that you had appended it *after* the categories (and DEFAULTSORT template) -- easily done!, I should think -- and so, if it's o.k. with you, I've moved the persondata up. Perhaps that will make the difference! Thanks for your help. --Stcomberbache (talk) 08:54, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Lewis Young
Restored and marginally updated, just for you. Yeah, home record gone already. Still, a good win for us last night despite me wishing the Carling/Coca Cola/Milk/League Cup didn't even exist. I fancy us to have a half-decent season this time round. Cheers! The Rambling Man (talk) 06:49, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Henderson restored and updated too. Pah. I've given up on the season already.  I watched us against Wolves and we sucked.  We didn't just suck, it was the worst home performance I've ever seen. Ever.  You'll enjoy Saturday night!  The Rambling Man (talk) 21:59, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Ross Jenkins (footballer born 1951)
Your article needs inline citations, quickly, to qualify for DYK. --Millbrooky (talk) 22:21, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

DYK
Thank you for your contributions! - Mailer Diablo 17:19, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

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Oliver Lancashire
History restored. Looks like it might have been him who first created it. Average age of Manchester City side that finished yesterday's match against Chelsea: 22. Oldelpaso (talk) 16:02, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Hess
Cheers for that, I've added in a snippet about his family and will assess the rest another time when my wife's not trying to boot me off the PC :-) Good to see they've gone for a straight verbatim transcript of typical Hess-isms such as "I done a four year apprenticeship when I left school" :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:49, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Current squads
As I said on WP:Cricket, if it's going to be the current squad, it should be just that: the current squad. Darren Pattinson hasn't even been named in the England A squad for the winter, so how can you say he is in the current England squad? You can't! If you're going to have all the players from the last year, the section should NOT be headed "Current Squad". Andrew nixon (talk) 21:41, 6 October 2008 (UTC)