User talk:Hornoir/Archive 1

Locke & Key
Coincidentally I was raising this issue over on the comics project: WT:CMC. I know you've based this on The Dark Tower comics (and The Stand looks similar) but neither of them are really how comics series are usually dealt with. You'd usually expand an article and if looks like something needs splitting then we can discuss it and we have dealt with much longer stories within one article before and I can't see why this can't all be done in one article (esp. as we need to conform to WP:WAF and keep plot down to a minimum WP:PLOT).

I won't do anything with the other article for now and see what the consensus is - if it is thought to be OK to do it like this then I'll revert my edits. (Emperor (talk) 15:59, 9 December 2008 (UTC))


 * OK. I was thinking about reverting my edits for the time being (as nothing is lost we can always set it back to the version people required) but threw a link in instead which does the same job.


 * As a sidenote (and nothing to be changed right now) but WP:WTUT and WP:PLOT would suggest not using tables for issue-by-issue plot breakdowns. However, we can deal with that later. (Emperor (talk) 20:31, 9 December 2008 (UTC))

Stubs
You removed the stub template from Tim Palen with the edit summary "Removing Stub Template since this already possesses the Under Construction Template". Please understand that a stub template places an article in a particular rating category; while I assume you intend to expand it at some point soon, it's really not appropriate to remove the template until it's of a higher rating – at least start class. Thank you. -- Skarl 19:22, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Veronica Mars
Hornoir,

Thanks for dropping me a note. Cornucopia is doing a good bit of work at the moment--I'd recommend you drop him a note, too. Welcome! Jclemens (talk) 17:25, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: Veronica Mars task force
First off, thanks for joining the force. :) The userboxes look really good, and I've already added some to my userpage. I'm not really sure what the task force page should look like. I say just create it however you like, but just try to give it a noir look. Thanks, and talk to you soon.  Corn.u.co.pia /  Disc.us.sion  01:18, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Just to be clear, using the userboxes at this point will eventually link to a dead page when the content is moved to a permanent location for the template. hornoir (talk) 01:26, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I haven't started, so feel free to go nuts! ;) With the whole process, just do whatever you think is best.  Corn.u.co.pia /  Disc.us.sion  01:55, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure, thanks for all your help. :)  Corn.u.co.pia /  Disc.us.sion  02:40, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Wow, that was fast! Really nice job, it looks great. Thanks for all your help (and I left your name first, you created the page, you deserve to be listed first). Cheers :)  Corn.u.co.pia /  Disc.us.sion  05:14, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

I'm really loving the page, but could you change the font? I don't mind a fancy font (and if you find a better one please add it), but I think the left pane especially is a bit difficult to read. The WikiProject Lost font is good, which I believe is just the normal font. Thanks! :)  Corn.u.co.pia /  Disc.us.sion  05:24, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I placed it back into the base Wikipedia font as per your request. The title cards, though, remain a varied font... which I think helps make them standout.  Glad you're loving the page.  hornoir (talk) 21:05, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the change. Hopefully more users sign up soon!  Corn.u.co.pia /  Disc.us.sion  01:03, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Banner

 * We've now fixed that error with the example uses of the banner in the documentation, so you won't need your novel workaround solution ;) Do you mind if I remove the includeonly tags from Template:WikiProject Veronica Mars again? It's just that it's supressing a category (Category:WikiProject banners without quality assessment) which might just prevent your banner getting maintenance in the future? Martin 15:31, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I've altered the documentation to not include the template and altered the template proper to include category=no as a noinclude clause. Hopefully this works for the goal you were striving for.  hornoir (talk) 13:33, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Hostel II movie poster
No worries. I just added something quickly before I got a bot form message added to my talk page. I figured whoever added the poster to his page and developed the section would likely expand on the FUR later. The changes you made look good. Happy editing! --Nehrams2020 (talk) 19:19, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Growing Up With Horror
I grew up on the films that are considered classics. I was known as an expert in it by friends and coworkers. I spent years studying the genre with purchasing books,magazines, and going to film conventions.

I would be happy to contribute to Wiki with what I know, but where do I start? Can you give me advice or a suggestion. Thanks, Electric Japan (talk) 08:01, 10 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I've replied to your user talk namespace, Electric Japan. hornoir (talk) 13:41, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

OK. I got it now. I am already a member of the "Horror Experts". I am kinda toasted after working, and added my name twice to the list. Now, I just got it. I write a lot where I am. Too much! I'm back on track now. Thanks, Electric Japan (talk) 11:27, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Horror Project
To be honest, I don't know. The WikiProject Horror page itself is not frequented often by its members. I agree, that the whole thing is in desperate need of an overhaul and some more "active" members to run it. I think we've brought this up on the talk page before, but I cannot remember. Either way, since you seem interested, maybe you should start a talk page discussion detailing everything that needs to be updated, addressed, etc. and we can go from there. If need be, I'll even start to take a more active role in the actual project (I usually just edit the articles within).  BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  20:50, 9 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Actually, I was doing just that. At the moment I was just looking at the Film page and trying to create a sidebar just for our project. I've added some pages and deleted things that don't apply to us but we'll have to create some of these red links (they deal with the coordinators and cleanup crews). I'm going to try and get over to the Novel Project to check out their page and see what works for them. I like our feature article listing better than the Film Project's listing, so I'll probably keep that...but I don't think we need all those dates in there.   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  06:44, 10 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Interesting. Do you have an idea of what kind of pages you would want to watch? I know the film project has a ratings crew. Shortly after they elected their coordinators they got together and made a ratings crew that went around and assessed all of the "B" articles to see if they really fit the criteria. Sure, I'd be your assistant. Fair warning, my classes just started up again for this semester so I'm largely inactive from 8 - 8pm on Monday - Wednesday, and 8 - 5pm on Thursday and Friday. I still check and do what I can when I wake up and on my lunch break, but I cannot do major tasks until the evening and the weekends. Also, let me know what kind of things in the Project Novel you like so I can add it to our page. What do you think of their Annoucements and open tasks box?   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  14:19, 11 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Ok. If we're just going to call them something like, "WikiProject Horror/To-do list" or "WikiProject Horror"/Coordinators"...then I'll go ahead and create the links on the sidebar. This way, then they are up and running they'll turn blue automatically.


 * I'm sure the ratings crew does, but their first concern were all of the articles that don't get formal reviews (as GA and FA do). I think that should be our focus first, and once we've re-assessed all of the articles that are below GA and FA, we can re-assess those as well.


 * Just let me know what you need me to do and I'll try and get it done ASAIC. Oh, btw, if you want to check on the progress or (up to you) want to edit the potential new look for the Project Page (and the sidebar) you can find the Project page here and the Sidebar here].   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  14:41, 11 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm home for my lunch break and saw your message. No problems. I've been busy trying to get the sidebar and the announcement templates done that I haven't made much progress with the project page. I need to study the novel project's page a bit to see what they have that is well organized (leave it to the novel people to have really neat stuff :D). I have replaced the FA, GA, etc lists with our format. I removed that "date written" stuff...it really means nothing. At the most, if you want, I'm contemplating putting back the date it passed FA, A, GA so that we can do a quick skim and see which articles are probably the closest to failing the criteria for their respective status - as the criteria has become stricter as time has gone one. Buffy the Vampire Slayer used to be FA.   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  16:49, 12 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I'll make note of that for when I get back from class tonight. Personally, I think we need a "primary author". I don't like getting personal credit for that stuff, because a lot of people help in some regard, whether it is copy editing or something else. I'd rather remove it and leave the title, date it was passed, and a brief description.   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  17:33, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Runaways Peer Review
Thanks for the additional comments! You took the time out to help build this article, and was really helpful. Best wishes! -- A talk / contribs 20:54, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Jack Pierce
You may know, I have added lots of information with diffrent text/information on the Jack Pierce article. I have been working on it for almost a year. Someone had taken an article that was virtually identicle from another website and placed it on Wiki. I could not believe that once I noticed it. I have been changing it so it would not be similar.

Thanks, Electric Japan (talk) 10:59, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Milestone Announcements
I'm afraid that, due to the nature of the beast either I put in the limits above what they currently are, and add in the lower ones once you're certain everything's rated correctly, or I shelve the whole thing under you're certain. Sorry to have to do this to you but it could get a little messy otherwise, I hope you understand. - Jarry1250 (t, c) 16:12, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Horror Newsletter
Have you given some thought to orchestrating a newsletter to go out to all of our members, kind of like how the Film Project does?  BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  13:40, 1 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I've thought about it a bit, but I'm more concerned with getting the project as a whole up-to-par before worrying about a newsletter. While a newsletter would help keep membership informed about various tasks and notices, I feel like the project proper has to be more fluidly organized so that members can find things when they want to help out.  Does that make sense to you?  hornoir (talk) 13:47, 1 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Perfect. Thought just crossed my mind when I saw you adding those two bots to the bottom of the project page. What's next on the agenda that you need assistance with, so that I can help?   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  13:49, 1 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Not the most fun, but all the Saw task force articles have to have their banners shifted to  with any   and   carried over.  Adding   to the same might be good, even if the task force proper wants to change those priorities in the future.
 * Likewise, all the Saw task force categories have to be placed in-line with the WikiProject Horror categories. I think I got all the proper categories placed, but I'm running out of steam on that project.
 * I want to make the Notice Board more fluid and easy-to-use, so any thoughts on that matter would be good.
 * And the Outreach page has to be done still.
 * Let me know what you can handle, so we're not overlapping efforts. hornoir (talk) 14:00, 1 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Alright. I'll get back to you after I eat something (just woke up and my stomach's doing that, "Feed me Seymour" call). Oh, and I have your talk page watched, so I'll know when you respond to me. :D   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  14:08, 1 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I got sidetracked yesterday with some other projects and I was at work and school all day today. I just took care of the banners for all of the Saw related articles. At least, I think I got them all. I went off the list the task force page has.   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  03:39, 3 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for doing that; I've been going blurry-eyed tagging things. You wouldn't happen to know Perl, would you?  I've been trying to compose some rules for the New Articles bot to follow, but my Perl abilities are, well, piss poor (to be honest).  The bot is located at User:AlexNewArtBot and I've already selected a name for the feed (Horror) and announced the feed (#8 under Arts and Entertainment).  The rules would be placed at User:AlexNewArtBot/Horror.  If this is something you can't do, let me know so I can continue to muddle with it.
 * I completely revamped HCOTM today. Feel free to improve further if you think there's anything I missed.
 * A newsletter is on the horizon, so if you want in on helping "compose" it, let me know. hornoir (talk) 03:57, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I have no skill in Perl whatsoever. I'm not even sure of what it is, so I wouldn't be much help with it. Let me know when you're reading to work on the newsletter, and I'll see what I can do.   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  04:30, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

It looks awesome. I'm at work till 5 (5.5 more hours..on lunch break right now). I'd love to see what I can do with the Project News section. I'll try and work something up at work (I can't really access Wiki there other than to view it very quickly, so I'll try and do something in WORD and then show it to you when I get off work later. I'll post it on the talk page of either the Outreach page or the talk page of the actual Feb. Newsletter. If that's ok.   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  16:34, 5 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Glad you like it. Go nuts on the project news section (well, not too nuts… I'd prefer the thing wasn't huge).  I look forward to seeing what you come up with.  hornoir (talk) 17:33, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Horror Showcase
You know you cannot see any of the other classes in the "Showcase", right?  BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  00:33, 7 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Huh? I've been on two computers with it today (a Mac and a PC) and can view them all (FA-Class, FA-Class nominees, A-Class, Did You Know? articles, GA-Class candidates, and GA-Class).  What are you seeing?  It should be in two columns (using the col-begin, col-2, and col-end templates).  Have you tried purging the cache?  [ Try this.]  <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">hornoir <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">(talk) 00:39, 7 February 2009 (UTC)


 * No, I see two columns. But I only see FA and GA. I don't see dates attached to the FA articles (even though they are listed in the "edit" screen). I don't see A-Class, I don't see FAC or GAC, or DYK...but I see them all in the edit screen. I see them fine (and it looks good) in Firefox. But IE is not displaying what you're intending to display.   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  00:45, 7 February 2009 (UTC)


 * That's VERY strange. I'll have to check into it and change things around a bit to make it more universal.  Thanks for letting me know!  <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">hornoir <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">(talk) 01:32, 7 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Hey Bignole, please check it again as I may have fixed the problem. Let me know if it works.  If not, can you check WikiProject Television/Veronica Mars task force and see if the two column design (and Showcase display with dates) work for you?  Thanks.  <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">hornoir <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">(talk) 01:56, 7 February 2009 (UTC)


 * It's all straight now. :D   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  02:00, 7 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I just realized, we're going to have to go through all of the literature articles and tag all of the ones that are horror related. At 2600 articles, we haven't even begun to get all of the Horror-related ones. I'm pretty sure we don't have the vast majority of Stephen King's novels, or any prolific horror writer . Then again, upon looking at some of his books...maybe they all are tagged. Speaking of the tag, you have Saw task force as an option, but what about the other task forces?   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  02:39, 7 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Oh, yes; there are a LOT of articles that aren't tagged. Scary, isn't it?
 * The Saw task force is a primary of WP Horror (there base is located under ours), but the others are located elsewhere and either have a unique banner or are a bannered under a different WikiProject. WikiProject Alien really should be a task force rather than a WikiProject.  Any interest in trying to convince them move?  <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">hornoir <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">(talk) 02:56, 7 February 2009 (UTC)


 * We really shouldn't have to "convince" them, just present them with the facts of what a WikiProject encompasses and what a task-force encompasses.   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  03:18, 7 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Then again, it would require convincing them that most of these articles actually fail WP:NOTE and should probably be merged into articles with a larger scope.   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  03:28, 7 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I think it is common courtesy to request the change in their talk space and await approval (or non-reply for reasonable period) before being bold and moving them. Here's the "convincing" I did to WikiProject Saw: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Horror/Saw task force.  I leave it in your capable hands, though, if you wish to undertake the task.  :)
 * And yes, your WP:NOTE comment is probably correct. I find a lot of WikiProjects that should be task forces overcompensate in that department.
 * P.S. Please check the Showcase again, as I did another slight mod (to the candidates sections) and want to make sure it didn't tweak anything.  <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">hornoir <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">(talk) 03:31, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

It still looks alright, although a few of the dates are taking up two lines instead of one on a few of the articles. I don't know if you see that as well. I'll test the waters with the Alien project based on your comments for Saw.  BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  03:49, 7 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Two-line dates should be fixed; please try again (sorry to keep sending you back… I feel like a bastard for it). Best of luck with the Alien project.  In case it helps, a complete list of the WikiProject Alien project pages can be found: here.  <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">hornoir <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">(talk) 03:57, 7 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Let the battle begin. Then again, there are apparently only 9 active members (according to the Project's page...but that hasn't been touched since October 08)...and there hasn't been activity on the talk page since December 23. There might not be that many people actively watching the page. We'll see. But, with 9 members and a whole slew of articles that could be merged into larger, single articles...I'm really surprised this is a Project. Not to mention that the nav box encompasses Alien, Predator and Alien vs. Predator articles (it's kind of bloating the nav box to make it appear to be larger).
 * Jaws, Jason and Castlevania still have the double-line dates.   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  04:01, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
 * They're all single-lined again.   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  04:51, 7 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Excellent. I was just about to ask you to check again.  Thanks for contacting the Alien project...  If no one has replied in a reasonable time (two weeks?), then just boldly enact the move.  Task forces/work groups didn't originally exist, so a lot of WikiProjects that shouldn't have been created were; but now that task forces are common practice, those projects have to be brought it.
 * To be honest, WikiProject Horror probably wouldn't be created today. Fantasy and Science-Fiction task forces are set-up within WP:NOVELS, so I assume the WikiProject Counsel would've advised something similar for us in this day and age.  Thankfully, we'll exploit the entire Grandfathering rule of existence.  :)
 * <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">hornoir <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">(talk) 04:57, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Horror Newsletter (Part 2)
Reset over to the left side as I'm getting tired of the tabs. Perl is a programming language that is, well, annoying. At this point, I've told the New Article bot to send articles that have the horror-stub, horror fiction, horror film, and Category:Horror but exclude anything with the Category:Science fiction studies (which is strangely located under Category:Horror). I can't rightly think of other terms to look for that might indicate it belongs under WikiProject Horror but hasn't been tagged as such. Suggestions?

Newsletter will probably be on my horizon in the next couple of days. I'll let you know once I start so that you can contribute. <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">hornoir <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">(talk) 04:39, 3 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Not too many things actually come to mind....gothic horror? lol. I'll be around, just let me know when. BTW, you're doing an excellent job re-establishing all of these project pages.   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  04:45, 3 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Don't laugh, as I was considering paranormal romance as one of the tags. Anything that COULD fall under our purview should be there, basically.  I was considering listing all the major film franchises and horror authors as well, but with lesser point counts… thus inclusion of the tag alone wouldn't make it register, but multiple small tags might.
 * I have another very exciting task that needs to get done. When I had wrote every member on the participant list (remember those days, all of a month ago), I noticed a few were deleted, retired, etc.  Can you go through and...
 * Remove deleted accounts from the list
 * Merge accounts that state they have been renamed (if the renamed account is also on the list; an example being my own located at #62)
 * Retire (to the Inactive members section) renamed accounts where the newest name isn't on the new list
 * Retire (to the Inactive members section) accounts that specifically are announced as retired
 * I'm sorry to dump this on you, but these things need to get done. And I did go through and standardize the entire membership into one format.  That wasn't fun, trust me...
 * And thanks for the props regarding the redesign. And thanks again for all your help.  You've been a great partner in changing everything and I probably couldn't have done it without you.  <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">hornoir <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">(talk) 14:32, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll what I can do about it. I'm only on my lunch break from work right now so I won't be able to do much in that regard till later. I'm probably ditching class tonight (I have a huge quiz/exam tomorrow morning that I need to read on), so I'll have some more time when I get off work in about 6 hours (5pm here). That shouldn't be hard, just tedious.   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  16:12, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Don't worry about it; in fact, I just finished doing it myself. PLEASE study for your test... nothing worse than being ill-prepared for such things.  <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">hornoir <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">(talk) 19:00, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
 * So I see...I guess I can close out the tabs I already had open..lol. You're just on the ball with everything. I have some general article cleanup from the days vandals, and then I'll probably do just that. After tomorrow I don't have class for the rest of the week, so I'll be more a free spirit as far as helping goes.   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  21:46, 3 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I have OCD, so when I think of something that needs to be done I find it hard not just to do it myself right then and there. It makes me a great workhorse for things, but not real great on the sharing of responsibility.  Cleaning up vandalism is such an important thing; best of luck with that.  I think the Project is slowly getting to the point where it can be easily maintained with minimal work, which is what I'm hoping for... so that future coordinators won't have to focus on minor things and can instead promote the project, help with reviews, etc.  <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">hornoir <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">(talk) 00:21, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm straight with the changes. One thing, is the "watch, edit, etc." banner for the Announcement template off for you? When I view the newsletter, that sub-banner that sits atop the announcement template is shifted to the right, so that it sits "off screen", so to speak. Is that just me?  BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  22:19, 5 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I just double-checked and the Announcement template banner is fine for me. But I know an easy way to take care of it...  the edit banner only appears in BASEPAGENAME WikiProject Horror now (the main project space).  There is good and bad to this, but I'll see if I can't figure out what was causing the problem and fix it at a later date.  Since you seem cool with the newsletter, a off we go…  <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">hornoir <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">(talk) 23:29, 5 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Hmm. If there was a way to find out if it was going to send next month or this month, then I'd say go ahead and hand deliver if it was next month. We need to know what day it is being delivered, if it's going on Feb. 27...we might as well revamp it for March and issue out what we have now by hand.   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  14:54, 7 February 2009 (UTC)


 * When it gets accepted, I'll be notified of when first delivery will occur. After that, it will always deliver on the 1st of a month.  I guess there's nothing left but to wait and see.  <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">hornoir <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">(talk) 15:35, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Newsletter delivery
Can you make changes to it once it's been accepted? If so, and it won't be delivered until March...then maybe we can update it to a March newsletter. If not, well then I guess we'll just figure out what to do then.  BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  15:38, 7 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure I understand the initial inquiry 100%; the newsletter, once delivered, can't be altered (to my knowledge). The bot simply runs pre-programmed task which I have limited control over (since it is not my bot), thus I can't alter the tasks greatly.  Every month, the bot automatically tries to deliver the new newsletter (based on established location control, in this case /CURRENTMONTH CURRENTYEAR) and won't retry if it fails.  The new newsletter must be finished before the first of the delivery month (in general).
 * The February newsletter is already archived within the WikiProject Counsel, so we can't really say there isn't a February newsletter. If the bot doesn't deliver it, then we can either hand-deliver it or just create a new March newsletter and let February stand as an archive only event.
 * I mailed the bot control to hopefully get clarity on the situation. Let me know if I answered your question, as I'm not sure I did.  <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">hornoir <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">(talk) 15:57, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
 * What I meant was, if we know when the bot will deliver this current newsletter (and as such that won't be till March - hypothetically), can the newsletter by altered before it is actually delivered?   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  16:29, 7 February 2009 (UTC)


 * OH! You make a NEW newsletter every month, the instructions are located in the Outreach section.  So, yes, you can alter the newsletter as much as you want prior to delivery.  <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">hornoir <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">(talk) 18:03, 7 February 2009 (UTC)


 * So, theoretically we could make some minor adjustsments to this one (like changing February to March) if it is released on March 1.   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  18:05, 7 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Not really. This newsletter is for February and has been logged with the WikiProject Councel already.  We could create the March newsletter using pretty much the same information as the February one (though it would be different, as we'd have a collaboration by then and I'd like to start nominations for coordinator positions around then).  <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">hornoir <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">(talk) 18:09, 7 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, I guess we got our answer (check the bottom of your talk page if you didn't notice the "new message" before my current message to you).   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  02:39, 8 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Yea! Very exciting.  I hope it will bring the activity level back up on the project.  Thanks again for all your help thus far; we've still got a ways to go, but things are looking brighter and shinier…  <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">hornoir <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">(talk) 03:13, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

I agree, I was excited to see it. When it arrived I was like, "Yes, now we have the rest of the month for people to filter back in to the project and we can get this stuff rolling". I think we have better potential for the CotM and other general assessments with it coming out today.  BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  03:16, 8 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I hope you're right. Now that most of the project has "come together" again, is there any specific area you would like to focus on?  <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">hornoir <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">(talk) 03:20, 8 February 2009 (UTC)


 * You mean within the project (e.g., organizing project related stuff), or with articles themselves?   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  03:27, 8 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I meant within the project, but there is a lot of article work that needs to be done… have you seen the laundry list the is the cleanup page? And there are a lot of articles that aren't tagged but should be.  Etc.  Just curious as to what you'd enjoy doing to help the project.  You've earned it.  <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">hornoir <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">(talk) 03:35, 8 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I haven't given it much thought. This is the most active I've been within the Project itself. I usually just stick to articles (which I'm really behind on fixing all of those Friday the 13th articles. I got the franchise article and Jason done a long time ago, but I haven't finished the individual films. Whatever I do, I know that I don't have the time to devote to the role of coordinator, so I wouldn't even put my hat in that ring.   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  03:42, 8 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Then take a breather from the project stuff and catch up on what you've fallen behind on. At the very least, I hope you nominate yourself for an Assistant Coordinator gig… I think you've been very helpful to the project.  When you're ready to take on some more project tasks, just let me know.  <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">hornoir <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">(talk) 03:46, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Well, if you have things you need assistance with just let me know. I try and volunteer for things I know I can work into my schedule.  BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  03:47, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

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Alien Project
There does not seem to be a lot of apprehension about turning that into a task force. I think, should this actually get done, the first step will be to assess the notability of all those articles that are sketchy and see if they can be merged into an article of broader scope. I just tagged one of the early Alien games; it had nothing but a brief plot description and that was it.  BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  21:37, 8 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, first I'd like to rewrite their template to conform with the locations for categories that a task force would get, that would automatically shift over the ratings and whatnot to the proper place. Then redo the horror banner to include them.  Then go through and retag things.  Sound good?  If no dissenting opinions come in soon, perhaps I'll just do the move.  <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">hornoir <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">(talk) 23:50, 8 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, I was referring to after all of the business edits that will have to take place. :D   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  23:53, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Template:HorrorWikiProject
Hello. I see you've been working on this template which I converted to WPBannerMeta back in November. I was wondering why you stopped using the meta. Was it not working as you wished? You've done a good job with the template, but you will certainly find it easier to maintain in the future if you convert it again. Please let me know if I can help in any way. Martin 08:46, 16 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I find WPBannerMeta too limiting… I'm able to accomplish more with greater control without using it. If you look over the revised template carefully, you'll see I've done quite a few things (some of which make it easier for those trying to fill out the project banner on talk pages) that one can't do within the WPBannerMeta framework.  Sorry.  <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">hornoir <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">(talk) 13:59, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Friday
You are aware that you've created a second review page, to the original page, right? Also, if we limit it to a "Horror Project" review, then we won't get very much outside opinion, and that's a rather important aspect lost.  BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  19:20, 21 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes, they are separate peer reviews. Wikipedia: Peer Reviews is meant to be a wiki-wide review, while WikiProjects host their own individual peer reviews.  You could have an article peer reviewed by all WikiProjects it falls under at once, but each would have their own review page.  <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">hornoir <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">(talk) 21:25, 21 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Interesting.   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  21:29, 21 February 2009 (UTC)


 * To be honest, the Wikipedia Peer Review section tends to get the same handful of people replying to the article… and articles only stay there for a month. WikiProjects tend to let reviews stay up until the article gets to FA class.  It's a big difference in that regard.  <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">hornoir <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">(talk) 15:21, 22 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Hey, whatever works. I'm just worried about having to answer the same questions on two different pages, or having competing opinions on two different pages and having to "well, so-n-so on this review page says.., while so-n-so in this one says..".   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  15:29, 22 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, unfortunately, that does happen. But remember that reviews are just advice, not set-in-stone law.  Go with whatever makes the most sense for the best reasoning.  I tend to find WikiProject reviews to be a bit more focused on the topic (and understanding of it), which Wikipedia reviews are great for understanding how someone without a basis of understanding reads the page.  It's important to find a balance between both.  And, to be honest, most people don't review a piece after the first time.  I don't know why, but they assume the first reviewer did their job.  Sad, but true.  <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">hornoir <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">(talk) 15:43, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Task Center
I've been watching (I watchlisted it when you first created it). It looks good. I don't think I'll put my name in, because of my schedule it is much easier for me to assist in a non-formal way. That way, I don't run the risk of being "absent" from my position for extended periods of time. It's one of the reasons I never put my name in the Coordinator ring for FILM, or HORROR. But, I must say, you're doing an excellent job. When did you want to initiate the official coordinator search?  BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  21:58, 23 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm going to try to create a nomination page this week, so that nominations can be made during March. Then voting in April.  <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">hornoir <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">(talk) 22:01, 23 February 2009 (UTC)


 * P.S. Thanks for saying I'm doing an excellent job. And, of course, you've been a HUGE help in what is being done.  If you run for a coordinator position, I'd certainly support you.  <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">hornoir <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">(talk) 22:03, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks and a request
Thanks for signing up at Peer review/volunteers and for your work doing reviews. It is now just over a year since the last peer review was archived with no repsonse after 14 (or more) days, something we all can be proud of. There is a new Peer review user box to track the backlog (peer reviews at least 4 days old with no substantial response), which can be found here. To include it on your user or talk page, please add. Thanks again, and keep up the good work, Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 03:09, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Sequencing & Count of Locke & Key
Hey there,

The only online references I can find that Head Games has 6 issues are the IDW shop site (I wasn't sure if this was usable) and the inside of the actual comics (which state "of 6"): http://store.idwpublishing.com/product_info.php?products_id=1513

I think you're slightly misreading the interview quote, which I tried to make clear in my summary of the change (but ran out of room, I should have stuck this on the discussion page):

"Welcome to Lovecraft was really the prologue. [...] There's gonna be 24 issues. [... I]t has a bit of a three-act structure, so the first 12 issues are one act… something happens at the end of issue #12 which begins to change things. The next 12 issues are Act 2, and then that final graphic novel will be Act 3"

See, my reading of this is: <ul> <li>Act 1 == Welcome to Lovecraft + Head Games == 6 issues + 6 issues == first 12 issues</li> <li>Act 2 == 12 issues</li> <li>Act 3 == Graphic novel</li> </ul>

A prologue generally occurs _within_ a text, and it seems to me that he's including it in Act 1 in his comments.

And while he states that the next 12 issues will be Act 2, he doesn't say that the numbering will be 13-24, and given that Head Games is numbered 1-6, I would expect the same to happen for the next arc (or at the very least, to _not_ make this claim because nothing supports it).

To be honest, I'm a little confused as to why you keep changing my edit to state that "Head Games" has 12 issues when I'm holding the actual issue #1 in my hand and it _clearly_ states (#1 of 6) on the inside cover. Authors say things in interviews all the time that aren't born out by the actual publication; I'm hoping the published comic is considered slightly more authoritative of the truth than something the writer idly said months prior to its release.

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Collab
I'm thinking that we may have to extend this current CotM into the next month, and make sure that we really advertise these new articles at the nomination page - I'm not sure we'll get enough activity to be able to pick an article for April.  BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  15:12, 21 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Sounds good. I'm unfortunately thinking the same thing for the coordinator nominations… Regardless of everything, perhaps there just aren't enough people interested in putting in the time and effort for the project.  <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">hornoir <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">(talk) 10:24, 22 March 2009 (UTC)


 * That's a possibility as well. If that's the case, I'll be happy to extend my assistance whenever you need it. Speaking of, we should probably start figuring out what we want the newsletter to say (it's March 22), we don't want the deadline sneaking up on like last time. :D   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  12:41, 22 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the continued assistance offer… but I know you had said time was tight with schoolwork and whatnot, so I don't want to bother you more than needs to. Instead of using the newsletter model I constructed, I was thinking of sending out a simple bulletin telling members about the coordinator election and the collaboration of the month.  Try and emphasize those two aspects.  'Cause, I'll be honest, I don't really want to be the lead coordinator… so I'll be quite happy if someone else gets nominated in.  But to be stuck as the lead with no assistants sounds, well, slightly insane to me.  I don't think I could do it.  <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">hornoir <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">(talk) 17:37, 22 March 2009 (UTC)


 * A bulletin would work to. It could emphasis the need for more activity.   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  17:40, 22 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I hope so. If there isn't more activity, then I fear the project will just revert to what it was before we started the remake/remodel.  Alas.  <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">hornoir <span style="font-family:CarbonType,American Typewriter,Bookman Old Style,Courier;">(talk) 17:43, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

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