User talk:Horologium/December 2010

Kingdom of Socks
There's 170.170.59.139 and 74.82.68.32 as well. I'll leave it to you to add them or not. Peridon (talk) 13:12, 3 December 2010 (UTC)


 * I had already caught (and added) the latter, but I just added the former as well. Thanks for the heads-up.  Horologium  (talk) 13:14, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Interesting IPs. One's warned for vandalism, and one's a suspected sock already - that's 170, suspected of being NatchitochesLA. who is a suspected sock of SGPubCo who is blocked indefinitely... Peridon (talk) 13:19, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
 * 170.170.59.138 has just appeared - now that's silly.... Peridon (talk) 22:55, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
 * 170.170.59.139 and 170.170.59.138 both resolve to a FedEx Copy Center in Cumming, Georgia. What are the odds that two totally unrelated people happen to be participating in the same AfD from the same copy center? As for the other two IP addresses, one is on a Blackberry (God knows where he is) and the other is in San Dimas, California, so it looks like we might actually have some separate editors, or a bunch of meatpuppets. Oy, what a mess.  Horologium  (talk) 23:43, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
 * There's four of named ones blocked now - two of them being the Prince himself (or so he says...). Peridon (talk) 15:04, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Guess what? He's back as Highmasterplan. He's getting rattled from the sound of it. Peridon (talk) 22:42, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

disambig pages tracked by Wikiprojects
Hey, i notice multiple edits by you removing a Wikiproject banner from disambiguation pages, such as in this edit. Your edit summary is to effect that disambiguation pages don't need to be tracked by wikiprojects.

However, they certainly can be tracked by wikiprojects, and many are, and that is often a good thing. For example i developed entries in about 3000 disambiguation pages involving NRHP-listed places, and it is helpful to have them covered by the WikiProject banner. Right now that is facilitating a cleanup campaign regarding all those entries, becasue they can all be found within the WikiProject's disambiguation-class articles category. Your removing the Wikproject Florida banner makes it harder for a future cleanup drive to be successful for that project, and it takes away unnecessarily from "credit" for the wikiproject, and it has other effects, perhaps all minor. However minor they are, your removing the Wikiproject banner seems unhelpful, IMO. So, please stop! --doncram (talk) 16:58, 6 December 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm actually doing some cleanup for WPFLA. The project has a bunch of non-articles which are being tracked, needlessly, and by removing them it makes it easier to identify *articles* which need to be improved. As for "credit", a redirect doesn't accrue anything to the project, as anyone can create a redirect at any time. If we were talking about articles, I'd agree with you, but not so much for redirects.


 * I had not worked my way through to the NA importance redirects yet, but I see that many of them are for NHRP buildings. If you can explain to me what benefit they have for WP:FLA I'll leave them in place, but absent that, I will want to nuke them to clean out the project's footprint a bit. Those redirects (and the ones for roads) seem to be more important to the NHRP and Roads Wikiprojects than WP:FLA; I am not touching the templates for other projects, because I'm not a member of those projects, and I don't remove or importance-assess for projects to which I don't belong.  Horologium  (talk) 17:08, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for replying. I had noticed your edit at Talk:Park Avenue Historic District, where there is only one Florida entry in the dab, and i can agree it could amount to having clutter.  But then i noticed you removing the wikiproject banner from Florida-specific road disambiguation pages, where i am not involved but I would think it is helpful to keep the Florida wikiproject involved, having some responsibility/ability to be involved.  Maybe you could touch base with User:Ebyabe, long active in Florida NRHP articles (and founder of WikiProject NRHP).  Or maybe you could touch base with the Florida wikiproject (although maybe you already have), about this.  I do think that state wikiproject involvement in state roads disambiguation, and in dab pages clarifying state-specific topics, is just simply helpful, but I won't review or revert any further edits by you.  Glad to know you'll consider what's best to do.  I'll re-implement that removal of yours for the Park Avenue Historic District article now. --doncram (talk) 17:28, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
 * The dab page for Park Avenue Historic District was the only dab page in all of WP:FLA, which is one of the reasons I nuked it. The three redirects I nuked were all prioritized redirects, which is silly; redirects should not be prioritized, even if there is a valid reason to keep track of them. As for keeping project tags on redirects, why do so, if the article itself is tagged? Dab pages (when they exist) can be useful to have for projects where the same name is used for different articles within the project, but not in cases like the PAHD, where the other pages are in different states (and covered by different projects). Again, note that all of road pages were redirects, not dabs. With 8,580 pages under the project, including almost 800 needing some form of quality ratings, and and additional 3200 needing to be prioritized (not to mention some of the more idiotic priorities (Venus and Serena Williams as High Priority for WP:FLA? I don't think so...) I'm trying to cut down on the nonsense we have and focus on the core of the project.  Horologium  (talk) 19:54, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

a request
I'd appreciate it if you took another look at User:Geo Swan/not ready yet/United States v. Nazario (2008). I've added more information.

As the first case where a former GI faced charges under the Military Extraterritorial Jurisdiction Act of 2000 I believe the case is notable -- more notable than Mr Nazario himself.

I won't go into all the details. They are in the article. I believe this material is close to the point where it could be moved to article space.

Candidly, Geo Swan (talk) 01:47, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

puppet
Thanks for the quick reply. If its not info that will be announced at the ANI, can you let me know the results? I think Dylan has entrenched himself. I hope he listens to common sense. Buster Seven   Talk  22:06, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure, but the link to the SPI is right on the AN/I page: Sockpuppet investigations/Benjiboi. I will be busy over the next couple of days (finals/term papers), so I won't be here on a regular basis.  Horologium  (talk) 22:11, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

AN/I - thanks
Thank you for following up on the socking allegations there today and posting them at the discussion of record. Not that you need my approval, but I think that that is one of the few cases where it is good to revisit a closed discussion. Regards, - 2/0 (cont.) 21:49, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Your User page
I like the design of your user page-the hide/show capacity. I was gonna cut and paste from yours and then adapt it to mine but maybe there is a better (and more instructive) way. Can you direct me to a guideline? Thanks. Buster Seven   Talk  19:33, 21 December 2010 (UTC)


 * I used the userpage design page created by User:The Transhumanist. It's at User page design center. The "style" section has a selection of show-hide headers which I blatantly ripped off and recolored (lavender is not my favorite color), and a few other options, which may work for you.  Horologium  (talk) 19:39, 21 December 2010 (UTC)