User talk:Horologium/March 2009

RE: WP:AN on my Talk page
I inadvertently hit "Restore this version" when what I meant to do was hit the "Current version as of..." link. No harm intended; I just wanted to read the whole discussion. Radiopathy (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 09:34, 2 March 2009 (UTC).

Possible mismarking
Howdy. You recently deleted User talk:Rockfang/List of companies involved in the Holocaust as CSD U1. It probably isn't a big deal, but I think you meant to use G7 as a reason since U1 apparently can't be used for User talk pages. Regardless, thanks for deleting the page for me.--Rockfang (talk) 23:48, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


 * No, when I deleted it, I actually changed it from the G7 which you had tagged it, because it is a talk page of a user subpage. User talk pages cannot be U1'd, but the talk page of a subpage you had created in your userspace is deletable under U1. It's not a big deal, though, since it's userspace deletion at the user's request...  Horologium  (talk) 23:52, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Hmm. Now you are cornfusing me. ;)  I coulda swore I marked the talk page as G7 and the main page as U1.  Anyways, cool beans. :) Rockfang (talk) 00:04, 6 March 2009 (UTC)


 * No, you *did* tag it as a G7. I changed it to a U1. As I said, though, no worries; nobody is going to contest it.  Horologium  (talk) 00:06, 6 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Ah. Thanks. :)  Rockfang (talk) 00:08, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Amongst the Pigeons
Hi and sorry if I am not doing this correct as i aM new to wiki and how it works - i was in the process of building a page for a musical artist called AMONGST THE PIGEONS which you deleted .... I was not finished and dont feel it should be deleted. The artist is an up and coming dance act in UK and deserves a wiki page. How can it be that other bands are allowed page and this one got deleted? Please feel free to point me in the right direction - I did not appreciate the page being deleted straight off cause as I say I am new to editing in WIKI and need more help with it ..... Thanks  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Marowak (talk • contribs) 14:34, 7 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I deleted it because another editor felt that it did not meet the notability requirements for Wikipedia, and tagged it for "speedy deletion". After reviewing the article, I had to agree with him, and I deleted it. The article is 1)unreferenced, 2)does not make any assertion of notability, and 3) reads like a fan site, rather than an encyclopedia entry. We welcome your input, but Wikipedia is not a compendium of everything; it's an encyclopedia, with minimum requirements for entries on people, places, things, or events. Take a look at Wikipedia's notability guidelines for bands and musicians; Wikipedia's policy on verifiability, which requires citations to reliable sources; and a brief note about appropriate word choices for encyclopedia articles. At this time, I do not believe that "Amongst the Pigeons" meets the requirements; if you still disagree after reading the three links I have provided, you may follow the procedures at Deletion Review to ask for the article to be restored. However, without any citations other than the artist's own website and MySpace page, it is unlikely to be restored.  Horologium  (talk) 19:23, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Larry Elder/Rockyobody
Sorry to bother you with this again. I just thought you should know that the user who I referred to who wanted to edit Larry Elder in light of the edit protection was a sock puppet of Rockyobody. Two other ip addresses have been accused of being sock puppets of Rockyobody and the ip address that wanted to edit Larry Elder is from the same location so I added it to the list. Rockyobody has subsequently retired from wikipedia: User:Rockyobody. I'm not sure what the protocol is on the edit protection regarding Larry Elder since Rockyobody is no longer a user, and was in violation of wikipedia user policy, but I just thought I'd let you know. Thorburn (talk) 19:38, 8 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Rockyobody has made an edit to the Larry Elder article under a new username User:Eaglesfan619. He reactivated his old username in addition to using at least 4 anonymous ip addresses.  I don't know what the right thing to do is.  There's an investigation going on over his suspected sock puppets.   What else should I do? Thorburn (talk) 04:50, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

I hope your whole situation works out, but I have done nothing wrong, see Thorburn discussion. I will revert my edit to Larry Elder page because it seems my edits have caused a stir.Eaglesfan619 (talk) 19:31, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Julie Hiatt Steele
I'm not sure I followed your reference to Steele in connection with the Sarah Palin discussion, but I was surprised to note that the Kenneth Starr article doesn't mention his unsuccessful prosecution of Steele. It's a decision for which he's been criticized; it's surely notable enough to be in his article. JamesMLane t c 21:42, 15 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I realize that it wasn't clear, for which I apologize. I was trying to come up with an example of linking one (non-notable) person to another person through a third party who had connections to both, independently. I could not come up with an example where both the non-notable person and the third-party person did not have articles, which probably didn't make it any clearer. As to the whole Ken Starr thing, I'm not going to go there; it's one of those political areas from which I try to stay away from deep involvement (see 2004 Washington Gubernatorial election, 2000 presidential election in Florida, et al); I tend to get a little too worked up and end up failing to AGF and fail to abide by the NPA policy.  Horologium  (talk) 21:54, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Deleting articles with hatnotes
Hello! When deleting an article, please check for a hatnote leading to another subject. If one exists, it probably is a good idea to redirect the page there.

I bring this to your attention because you deleted Pedicab, which was a useful redirect from March 2003 until December 2008 (when it became an article about a seemingly non-notable band, with a hatnote for its former target added in February). I've restored the pre-change revisions.

Thanks! —David Levy 16:30, 16 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Filed away for future reference. Thanks for the heads-up.  Horologium  (talk) 19:52, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Allen Neuharth
You removed the WikiProject Florida on Allen Neuharth. I was trying to understand why. He was CEO of Gannett when he moved to Florida in the early 1970s. He founded USA Today while in Florida. He is still writing his nationwide column out of Cocoa Beach, Florida. What do you perceive as the requirements for a WikiProject Florida on a person? Thanks. Student7 (talk) 20:29, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I removed the WP Florida tag because the article does not mention anything about him moving (back) to Florida. It says that he worked for the Miami Herald until 1960, which means that he only spent a few years there before moving to the Detroit Free Press. If he moved (back) to Florida (as you assert) find some sources and add it to the article. There is a vague implication that he lives in Cocoa Beach now, when it mentions that he is married to a Cocoa Beach chiropractor, but there is absolutely nothing at all that mentions his life in Florida. Was he in charge of Florida Today when it adopted the full-color format that was later used in USA Today? If so, add that to the article. I'm not opposed to adding him back into the project, but a read of the article (as it currently exists) doesn't justify his inclusion. When I do assessments, I *do* actually read the article first... (grin)  Horologium  (talk) 00:46, 17 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Will try to be more specific and less vague! I figured you had a reason. Student7 (talk) 19:22, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
... for protecting the speed of our light :-) DVdm (talk) 20:34, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Re: A favor to ask of you
As I am a bit busy, you may want to ask at WP:PWNB. Hope it helps, --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 16:25, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

A favor
You wrote

Since you are a native Polish speaker who is active here on en.wp, I have a favor to ask of you. Could you take a look at the first paragraph of Sebring (Floryda) and make sure that it is grammatically coherent in Polish? I don't speak the language, and the baffling array of cases and declensions makes my head hurt. (grin) The rest of the article should be okay (its boilerplate), but the lead was translated with the assistance of Google translation, which is sometimes not very good.

As a side note, how long is the lead time for sighted revision review on pl.wiki? I wrote an article last July (Coral Springs (Floryda)) which has never been reviewed. Is that odd, or par for the course over there? I just added a lot to the article today, but was surprised to see that it's never had a stable revision to view.  Horologium  (talk) 22:46, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I looked at it as you asked, everything seems fine. I did a couple of small touch-ups, that's all. I wouldn't worry about the review though, it's meant for articles that are released on a CD and distributed across Poland, as I remember, with only the well established subjects and categories included. You did a good job anyway, congratulations. --Poeticbent talk  05:58, 30 March 2009 (UTC)