User talk:Horologium/May 2008

You are now an administrator
Congratulations, I have just closed your RfA as successful and made you an administrator. Take a look at the administrators' how-to guide and the administrators' reading list if you haven't read those already. Also, the practice exercises at the new admin school may be useful. If you have any questions, get in touch on my talk page. WjBscribe 11:41, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations!
Let me be the second to congratulate you on your adminship! Wikipedia could really use more administrators like yourself and I guess the rest of the community agrees with that if you look at the voting on your RfA :) Have a nice day and good luck with the new tools! A Vand talkcontribs 11:45, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * And the third chimes in with congrats. Good luck with your new janitorial supplies. Feel good today; the community has bestowed upon you trust. Then get to work! (and keep your head down) :-)>   BusterD (talk) 12:12, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Congrats mate! dihydrogen monoxide (H2O) 12:14, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Again, congratulations. Pedro : Chat  12:17, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Yaaay unanimousment! Cookies all around!   Queerbubbles  | Leave me Some Love 12:41, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I was waiting for the same. I wish you all the best in your new role. --Bhadani (talk) 13:51, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Good luck. :) · AndonicO  Engage. 14:29, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Congrats! I would have gladly co-nommed had I seen it earlier, but I suppose 2 co-noms is enough. VegaDark (talk) 14:47, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * You're very welcome, and I'm glad to hear of your success. Well done! Happy editing,  Lra drama 16:31, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

WP:100
Congrats on making the WP:100 : )

(Oh, yeah, and on that admin thing too.) - jc37 14:28, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks on both counts. BTW, I didn't drop the thank you note on your page, but I did specifically thank you (and Wizardman and Black Falcon) for nominating me.  Horologium  (talk) 14:33, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Aww, I missed out on being spammed thanks? (That's ok, it seems you weren't the only one to skip my talk page.) I suppose I deserve it for missing out on the chance of being #101 - I saw your closed nom about an hour after it closed :( - jc37 15:10, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Congrats! :) Black Falcon (Talk) 17:04, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations!
Congratulations on your becoming an administrator! You're very welcome. Cheers! - Diligent Terrier (and friends) 18:26, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the club hombre! Van Tucky 20:42, 1 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Congratulations from me as well!! I have an unrelated question: is the "g" in your username hard or soft?  Aleta  Sing  21:24, 1 May 2008 (UTC)


 * It's a "zh" sound, as in "rouge". (grin) Check out Horologium, which contains an IPA pronunciation of my name, which was taken from that constellation.  Horologium  (talk) 21:27, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, interesting, thanks! I figured out the Latin, but didn't know anything about the constellation.  Aleta  Sing  21:45, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Congrats! Spencer  T♦C 23:14, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

help
Sorry I couldn't help. But I'm glad you found your answer. --CyclePat (talk) 06:26, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

RE: Yes, fixed.
Umm...Nobody is bent out of shape, I simply undid it. And, it was displaying just fine before you "fixed it", and still is now that I've changed it back. It's just probably best not to edit others peoples' comments, unless absolutely necessary for some reason. :-) - Rjd0060 (talk) 14:38, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure what happened then, because it wasn't displaying when I took a look at the Fleckenstein article, and noticed it had been protected. I went to add a tag, and saw yours. Apparently, something was going on at my end, because it's displaying fine now, and a quick look at the page history is showing that it was working then, too. The joys of Wikipedia... :\  Horologium  (talk) 14:41, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Media comment
Hi mate, would you be willing to speak to a report about something Wikipedia related (she's US based and would like to speak to a US Administrator)? If so could you please drop me an e-mail and I'll put you two in touch? The username for the e-mail is the letter a followed by my username (no dot or other separator) at gmail.com Many thanks, and I hope you get this in time. Oboler (talk) 17:20, 4 May 2008 (UTC)


 * You have gmail. (grin)  Horologium  (talk) 17:35, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

University of Phoenix
Did you mean to semi-protect it or fully-protect it? You semi-protected it, and put the fully-protected template on the page. Just a heads up.  Milk’s Favorite Cookie   (Talk)  20:05, 4 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Oops. Newbie admin mistake. Thanks for catching that, although slapping the full protection template on the article seemed to have about the same effect, until you edited...  Horologium  (talk) 20:11, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I pressed edit and the page came up, so I was like "Whoa". Thinking it would go to "view source" when I pressed save, which didn't happen...  Milk’s Favorite Cookie    (Talk)  22:13, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

RE:RFPP
Heh, sorry, feel free to revert it. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @   22:52, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Splatterhouse 2009
not sure why Splatterhouse (2009 video game) was deleted. Isn't the game like any other in development? Seems like a valid enough property ([]) to have its own page. Not much different than any other remake of an old game (eg Bionic Commando (sequel) Street Fighter IV) If it was written poorly or like an ad, perhaps require a rewrite instead of deletion? 75.26.45.62 (talk) 08:36, 5 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I deleted it because the entire content read "Splatterhouse is an upcoming video game for the XBOX 360 and Playstation 3. It is a remake of the classic Turbografx-16 game Splatterhouse.". It was unreferenced, violated WP:CRYSTAL, and does not need a separate article; it can be added in to Splatterhouse until it is previewed or released and reviewed by a reliable source.  Horologium  (talk) 08:48, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

RFA
I was just going through various old RFAs and it was interesting to see that you didn't receive even one oppose from anyone. But bagged a whopping 100 supports. Congrats! You really deserve being an admin. -- ₮inucherian  (Talk) - 13:34, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you. It's not as unusual as it used to be; a lot of the RFAs listed on WP:100 are within the last year or so. I think the most impressive is BD2412, who had 183 unanimous supports.  Horologium  (talk) 13:44, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Congratulations (and a special thank you for putting your RFA spam in the right place!) If you ever have any questions while you're finding your feet, my talk page is always open. Neıl ☎  23:33, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Church of Satan
That IP address was continuing to edit when I posted that notice up. About a minute after I posted that notice up, he was blocked. Technically, the user wasn't blocked when I made the request, but you are right, I should have noticed that he was blocked and posted a notice onto the request that I gave on the WP:RPP page that he was blocked so you didn't have to waste your time looking into the matter. Cheers, Razorflame 20:05, 6 May 2008 (UTC)


 * No problem. However, if it is (clearly) vandalism from a single user, we'll just warn and block that user, rather than protect the page.  Horologium  (talk) 20:07, 6 May 2008 (UTC)


 * All right. I'll take that information under my wing and use it in the future. Thanks for teaching me something new that I need to learn before I can do this. :) Raz<b style="color:#6cc">or</b><b style="color:#6c9">fl</b><b style="color:#6c6">am</b><b style="color:#6c3">e</b> 20:08, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Customer Focus, Inc. deleted?
I'm a firm believer in listing all notable businesses (I think it's a great part of a true brilliant online Encyclopedia that's mapping the world and all it's worthwhile knowledge) and Customer Focus is definitely notable. I just saw it got deleted and I'm shocked. There's a ton of tiny and truly non-notable businesses on Wikipedia and Customer Focus isn't one of them. You said that the only thing notable was their client list. I'd say that makes them pretty notable! The have over 100 of Forbes 500! How is that not notable? They are immensely influential.

Drewhamilton (talk) 03:29, 7 May 2008 (UTC)


 * The article had been prodded for five days, and the only reference was from the company's own website. As the PROD nomination stated, there was no assertion of notability, and no independent sourcing. I note that the nominator failed to notify you (not a requirement, but a courtesy, which I will address to him shortly), but the article did not satisfy the requirements of Notability (organizations and companies). A quick search revealed a fair number of hits, but none of them were reliable sources independent of the company itself. (Such sources may exist, but they were not readily evident.) This was not an example of an overzealous new change patroller at work; the prod tag was added 12 days after your last edit. If you feel that my deletion was in error, you are welcome to take the matter to Deletion Review.  Horologium  (talk) 10:59, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Had I noticed that User:Drewhamilton is a regular contributer and not a one-time account, I would have probably just tagged the article for sources. Phlegm Rooster (talk) 18:23, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Lansing Mall
This is in regards to your question on IRC about Lansing Mall. Apparently the version that you cleaned up was pure vandalism, and then I prodded it, not realizing it had already gone through AfD in 2006. (Apparently, the admin that deleted the page didn't realize this either.) At the time, I couldn't find any reliable sources pertaining to the mall itself -- but once I did, I re-created the page from scratch. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 18:58, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Can you help with photos?
Hi there. I need some help getting images to illustrate the next article I'm writing, Draining and development in the Everglades, you can see here in my sandbox. I'm looking for fair-use photos of Miami or Ft. Lauderdale suburbs, and aerial photos would be super. I'd love to find photos of real estate or land for sale signs in drained portions of the glades. I'm also looking to know how I can use a photo of Crocodile Hole at the Florida Memory Photo Collection taken in 1927 titled "Crocodile Hole" to contrast with one titled "Crocodile Hole opposite Lemon City, Florida" taken in 1916. I know the 1916 is fair use, but it's useless without the stark contrast of the one taken in 1927. I usually need hand-holding with images, so...hold my hand? Or direct me to someone who might be able to? Thanks, for what you can do! --Moni3 (talk) 19:46, 7 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Gahhhh, image issues. The period you are looking at is probably the worst of all worlds, since a) the Everglades was still a remote backwater then (with the commensurate lack of photography), b) copyright law around that time is sometimes difficult to verify, and c)it's not like much of this stuff is available in digital form (Marjory Stoneman Douglas didn't have a Sony DSC710 in her pocket to snap interesting photos). You might want to look at the US Geological Survey (www.usgs.gov), which has a lot of historical pics. For newer photographs, (such as Fort Lauderdale's western suburbs), I'm at a loss. My family has a lot of pics from our home near the edge of the Everglades in the 70's, but they're not what you're looking for and not in digital format. You might want to contact Wendy Wangberg at the Coral Springs Museum of History (954.752.7535); she has *tons* of photos, and she might be able to work with you on licensing issues. She also might be able to point you in the right direction to talk to the city historians for some of the other suburban cities. Horologium  (talk) 22:14, 7 May 2008 (UTC)


 * You might not want to know how far I'll go to get a good photo or a full citation. I'll call Wendy. I've already peppered some pages with usgs photos, and I'll use some others. Keep me in mind, and thanks! --Moni3 (talk) 22:26, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Tempest Wrestling
I was wondering If this article is allowed in wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempest_Female_Wrestling_Club --Roaring Siren (talk) 20:03, 8 May 2008 (UTC) P.S I am trying to be an admin !


 * No, it's not an appropriate article, as the business is non-notable. Ordinarily, I would have speedy deleted it, but it has already been nominated for a speedy delete, and it was contested (check the edit history). I have sent it to Articles for Deletion. As to your bid for adminship, I would strongly recommend that you wait for a while and build up an editing history; you have less than 200 edits (including your deleted image contributions), and you don't appear to be ready at this time. Stick around for a while, learn how Wikipedia's policies work, and build up a history of solid contributions.  Horologium  (talk) 20:59, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Special:Contributions/71.112.97.119
Anon keeps popping up on my watchlist adding a non-article individual to Dillard High School. Apparently this is a regular thing with him! If you can help keep an eye on him, I'd be grateful (I don't know why I'm still following my Fort Lauderdale high school articles, now that I'm in San Francisco, but I might be the only one :) ).  Bastique demandez 00:00, 9 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I've added that page to my watchlist. If he adds the individual again, I'll take it up with him on his talk page. (I notice that he doesn't have one, which indicates that nobody has addressed the issue with him, or welcomed him to Wikipedia, or let him know about our policies regarding notability.) He seems to be pretty focused on this one individual (look at how his other edits relate to the add on Dillard High School); we might have a WP:AUTO issue here.  Horologium  (talk) 00:25, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

User LvlaTr1X and vandalism
I was one of the two people reverting edits comparing Exxon to Satan, the Anti-Christ etc yesterday, however you posted on his user page to disregard the warning as he was fixing said vandalism. I'm wondering if you could take another look at that as I beleive his warning was wrongly cleared. Thanks! SweeBeeps (talk) 15:12, 9 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Take a look at his contributions. In each case, he removed inappropriate edits by other editors. I made sure to check before posting such a message, especially when I followed it up with a note to the editor who posted the warning (on his page). LvlaTr1X is not a prolific contributor, but all of his edits have been constructive, and he has no deleted edits. The warning was inappropriate.  Horologium  (talk) 15:41, 9 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Hrm. Alright, I'm still pretty new at this all as well which is why I wanted to check. Just now I was looking at a comparison between LvLaTr1X's edits on the Exxon page and the current version (which is what we were undoing prior to the other user placing the warning) and all of his changes and saw the lines like "| company_slogan = "Taking ALL the money out your pocket Pla-ya!", "We're drivers too", "Understanding Energy" "Wrecking Doug Karsch's backyard Hockey Rink for Profit" etc all highlighted in red. These weren't this user? As I had said before, I just want to make sure I have a firm understanding on this for the future. Thanks again! SweeBeeps (talk) 16:06, 9 May 2008 (UTC)


 * The sections highlighted in red were the portions he removed; the stuff highlighted in green was what he added. All of his edits are good, solid reversions of the massive IP vandalism on that page. Look at each of his edits individually; because of all the junk being added, looking at his contributions as compared to the current revision is not the best metric to use. Here are the links to his individual edits:, ,  ,  ,  .  Horologium  (talk) 17:00, 9 May 2008 (UTC)


 * OH! I get it now! Thanks for clearing this up for me, it'll help me identify what I'm looking for when working to fix vandalism. SweeBeeps (talk) 17:58, 9 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi and thanks for clearing on my part. I do apologise for not stating the reason for my editings, will do so next time. I had to admit that I was dissapointed that I was accused of vandalism when I was removing it. But cheers. Aaron W. Chai (talk) 14:28, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Henry Kissinger
Well, Im a little confused. You left this message on my page: I have removed your contribution to this page (again). In the form you added it, it is thoroughly inappropriate in tone and content. We do not use the first-person in Wikipedia (no "I", "me", "us" or "we"),

If it´s a quotation about someone and it happens to include "I" or "me" or whatever, what´s the problem. Why can´t we include a literal quote? It´s not wikipedia´s point of view, it´s a person´s point of view (Chomsky´s in this case).--Loyan (talk) 21:35, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
 * If it is a direct quote I see no problem either.  a s e nine  say what?  07:18, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

A bit of research
As you tend to be active in language userboxes and categorisation and such, and are now an admin, you should probably be aware of User:PatPeter. I'll let you do the initial reasearch for now. Feel free to ask for further information. - jc37 01:36, 12 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I am well aware of him; I had a number of clashes with him over languages and over other user category issues. He had created a couple of polemic user cats that I nominated for deletion (or at least !voted to delete, I don't recall which). Thanks for the heads-up, though.  Horologium  (talk) 11:13, 12 May 2008 (UTC)


 * See also: Requests for checkuser/Case/PatPeter. - jc37 23:54, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar
I award you this Barnstar for all of the hard work you have done for University of Florida articles over the years. Jccort (talk) 13:56, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

WBOSITG's RfA
<div class="boilerplate metadata afd vfd xfd-closed" style="background-color: #F0F0FF; margin: 2em 0 0 0; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px solid #AAAACC;"> Hello Horologium, I'd like to take this opportunity to thank you for your participation in my RfA which was passed with a final tally of 114/10/4. I'm both shocked and honoured to gain so much support from users whom I admire and trust, and I hope I can avoid breaking that backing by being the best administrator I possibly can. I will take on board the opposition's comments and I hope to improve over the coming months and years. Once again, thank you!  weburiedoursecrets inthegarden  20:28, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Forum shopping and canvassing...
There was absolutely no need for this. Please read my request word for word, and assume some faith. Forum shopping and canvassing, I never... NonvocalScream (talk) 21:41, 15 May 2008 (UTC)


 * It wasn't directed specifically at you, but did you even bother to look before posting that last unprotection request? All five of the rejected requests are still on the main page (there may be more that have been archived, I didn't check). I admit to being cheesed off at having to address two unprotection requests for the same article at the same time, but I don't think that my sentiments are at all misplaced. The links I provided clearly spell out the policies, and the canvassing link defines disruptive canvassing, which this is beginning to resemble. FWIW, I did read your entire request, word for word, and I reject the sentiment outright. I don't feel that you made the request in bad faith, but I disagree with your reasoning in this case.  Horologium  (talk) 21:47, 15 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Your message to the talk seems directed at everyone who requested unprotection. There was no canvassing on my part, at least I only posted a note on ANI.  If that was canvassing, then it was not disruptive canvassing.  If there were five requests, perhaps the community would like to see the article unprotected, maybe you should post a check on ani, just my suggestion.  I apologize for accusing you of ABF.  Regards, NonvocalScream (talk) 21:51, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Levitron protection
Hi,

I see you acted on my request to protect Levitron, but you've protected the talk page as well - which makes it difficult to discuss the situation with the warring editors... Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 22:32, 18 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I fixed that. Sorry about that. It should be good to go now.  Horologium  (talk) 22:34, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Per request
Enjoy : ) - jc37 22:19, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Talk_page_highlights

Thanks!
Thanks so much for your support in my RfA, which closed successfully this morning. TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 19:43, 22 May 2008 (UTC)