User talk:Horse Eye's Back/Archives/2024/May

Citrus taiwanica
It looks like Citrus taiwanica is a synonym of Citrus × aurantium, the bitter orange. Usually I or another editor would simply redirect the article to the accepted name without comment. But Citrus is a popular genus so I thought I would ask you first; is there any reason to believe the Citrus × taiwanica is a legit taxon? Abductive (reasoning) 05:55, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
 * That seems backwards... You never presented any reason to believe that its a synonym. Citrus is in general very contentious when it comes to synonyms, you will for example find people who say that Citrus x paradisi and Citrus × aurantium are synonyms... Same with Citrus × sinensis and Citrus × aurantium, yet we have separate pages for Bitter Orange, Sweet Orange, and Grapefruit. Horse Eye&#39;s Back (talk) 16:55, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
 * The consensus at WP:Wikiproject Plants is to use the Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew website Plants of the World Online to determine if a flowering plant taxon is accepted. The POWO entry for Citrus taiwanica says it's a synonym for Citrus × aurantium f. aurantium. Abductive  (reasoning) 23:34, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Such a consensus has absolutely no bearing on notability etc. Plants is but one of the relevant wikiprojects, it has no more say than any of the others. Thats what I think you're missing... Even if its a variety its a notable one, so it gets a page. Horse Eye&#39;s Back (talk) 00:02, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Going forward it would be best if you checked POWO if a taxon is accepted before creating an article, and to refrain from creating it if is not. Abductive  (reasoning) 01:41, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Why? Whether a taxon is accepted or not has no bearing on notability unless there is something I don't understand. The most we would be talking about here is creating the page under a different name with slightly different formatting. Horse Eye&#39;s Back (talk) 03:21, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Ah, so move it to Citrus × aurantium f. aurantium? Abductive  (reasoning) 05:28, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I would have no objection at all to such a move. Horse Eye&#39;s Back (talk) 15:41, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
 * A discussion on this has arisen at WT:WikiProject Plants. Abductive  (reasoning) 20:24, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Horse Eye&#39;s Back (talk) 20:34, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

Your thoughts
Hi @Horse Eye's Back I can see you've done a lot of work on the Australia-China relations article and would like your thoughts. There's a batch of articles from the last three or four years that indicate Australia has been experiencing a coercion campaign; and I think there's enough of them to create a separate article on the topic. Anyway, I've put that suggestion on the talk page and will let the other major contributors know too. MatthewDalhousie (talk) 09:27, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you, have left a brief comment. Horse Eye&#39;s Back (talk) 15:06, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Much appreciated. MatthewDalhousie (talk) 16:12, 7 May 2024 (UTC)