User talk:Horseflyson

Knin
I have noticed you are very interested in keeping Josipa Rimac out of the article of Knin. If you have any reasoning for this, please discuss in the DISCUSSION page. You're edits seem to reek of vandalism--if you have reasoning for this, once again, please discuss, or stop. The mayor has every reason to be on this page, she was born in the area and has lived there for many years. --Jesuislafete (talk) 04:40, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the comment. Calling this a reek of vandalism is incorrect. The real question is what JR is notable for. Just for being a mayor? For being a youngest mayor in Europe (maybe even not any more)? Big deal. If she is there on the list, all the other mayors in Knin’s history should be listed too. More so, Milan Babic and Milan Martic! Definitely more famous than JR, though notorious.

You say ‘The mayor has every reason to be on this page, she was born in the area and has lived there for many years’. Is this the reason? She was not even born in Knin! I was born in Knin and lived there for many years. Should I be listed as notable too?

JR is still young. If she is going to do something major in her life for Knin or for Croatia, or whatever, I will give her every credit. On contrary, one should know that there are rumours of nepotism and corruption around her. And you know what they say: where there is smoke… By the way, there is a group of people cultivating a cult of JR on Wikipedia and elsewhere. What is going on there? Is she such a snob!? Like all the people with only form and no substance.

FYI, I’ve tried discussing some issues in the discussion page. It didn’t work. I’ve noticed there were so many rubbish, nationalist opinions and right-wing views, questioning the credibility of the entire Wikipedia. I’ve looked into some of your other comments and posts and it seems to me you are one of those. --Horseflyson (talk) 11:50, 7 July 2009 (UTC)


 * It is good that you are taking an interest in editing pages, but you are new, so please brush up on Wikipedia's rules and policies, especially | Contributing to Wikipedia and | Wikipedia's five pillars. Basically, it is not up to you to decide who is notable and who is not, and your own personal opinions should not be the basis of decision. Moreover, Wikipedia's notability on politicians says: "Generally speaking, mayors are likely to meet this criterion" |here.


 * As for your complaints that Rimac was not born in Knin--she was born in a small village near it and went to school there, went to school there, and is now the mayor of the city. Notable people does not necessarily mean you must be born within the boundaries of the city to qualify--Momčilo Đujić would then have to be removed since he was not born in the city either. And Babic was born near Vrlika, but if you wish to put Martic there as well, then feel free to do so.


 * The discussion page is an essential part of Wikipedia. You should not be discouraged from using it because of feelings of frustrations. Everyone is encouraged to use the discussion page, and if they do not, you many remind them to do so. Please remember to read the rules of Wikipedia, and remember to | assume good faith. --Jesuislafete (talk) 23:27, 8 July 2009 (UTC)