User talk:Howard the Duck/Archive33

V
V. Okay. Perhaps you love V so much huh? Maybe you were a previous editor? Haha. Well, I just didn't see the need for that link to be italicised... But if you would insist, that wouldn't be much of a big deal. Thanks! I'm doing the article of Colleges of the University of Santo Tomas. Kindly check it out! :) Pampi1010 (talk) 12:16, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
 * The titles of publications are always italicized. It's normal practice. See WP:MOSTITLE. See also Template:Ateneo de Manila University. – H T  D  12:24, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Anyway, some bot or user edited the Colleges article and removed all the seals of the colleges. I patterned the article from Oxford, Cambridge, and Durham University articles which have all the college logos in one page. Obviously, I missed something, but what? I've seen the link that the user gave me for explanation. I understand in a way why he had to do it. Could you help me do something about it? Thank you again! Pampi1010 (talk) 05:23, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
 * The logos themselves have to be notable to merit a separate article. – H T  D  11:56, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
 * This is not about V. UST Article is back as a Good Article, however, its not listed in the Wikiproject Universities as one. I can't seem to find when and how it became a good article again. Would you know why? Is the "good article" legit? Thank you. Pampi1010 (talk) 02:55, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
 * It's been delisted. – H T  D  08:54, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Heyy another! Some user "patrolled" the Colleges article. What does that mean? Is it a good thing? I didn't really understand how "patrol" is defined in the special page:patrol of wikipedia. Yes, it monitors.. but how? Thank you! Pampi1010 (talk) 15:17, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
 * New pages patrol/patrolled pages – H T  D  15:19, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
 * So its a bad thing because its now labeled as an article for speedy deletion? Something like that? Ugh. Pampi1010 (talk) 15:25, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
 * It just means someone else noticed it. – H T  D  15:30, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

2014 FIBA Basketball World Cup
Hello.

I noticed that all standings tables report goal difference. However, FIBA uses goal average in order to rank teams after ties (as stated in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_FIBA_Basketball_World_Cup#Preliminary_round). I tried to test out the "Bs cl2 header navbar" template, in order to incorporate the goal average, but it seems like I am way too newbie to successfully do that.

My question is thus: does a template that incorporates a working version of goal average exists and if so, will you endorse its usage?

Partoni (talk) 15:20, 1 September 2014 (UTC)Partoni
 * Goal average is only used in case of three-way (or more) ties. Overall goal average is only used when all tiebreakers have been exhausted. We'd be using goal averages for the tie column if it comes to that. – H T  D  17:05, 1 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Senegal not 3rd, Croatia still plays a game right?18abruce (talk) 14:31, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah sorry I was trying to clean that up when edit conflicts happened. :p – H T  D  14:53, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I've done wsy worse, no worries. Group C is wild, Ukraine now has to defeat USA or they are out.18abruce (talk) 15:16, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Group C was a tough case to deal with. People were confused on what to do. – H T  D  14:56, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I think saying people were confused is being very kind. Stubbornly ignorant and unapologetic seems more accurate, risk of 3Rs (and a little perspective) kept me away for most of the day.  Appreciate all your work.18abruce (talk) 18:56, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I'd like to think there are people who were confused as well. FIBA has that table ranked by points and goal average and they were using that. Well, those confused people were stubborn, if that counts. – H T  D  18:58, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Seth Corteza
You are invited to join the discussion at Articles for deletion/Seth Corteza. Thanks. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 14:28, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Sindikatu
Now that Naruto mentioned the AFD for Seth Corteza, I thought maybe you and Nar should take a look at that page as well. Blake Gripling (talk) 06:34, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

Luzon map image in Luzon article
Hi Howard,

This edit to the Luzon article came up on my watchlist. One thing that did was to restore a cleanup hatnote which complained, "Jumps between island and island group. (February 2014)". Scrolling down, I saw File:Luzon_regions.PNG, and I got the point.

I see that you uploaded that image, so I thought to ask you about updating it. I don't do much image editing, but I could take a whack at it if you don't want to. I'm thinking that these things need to be done:
 * The MIMAROPA region ought to be removed from the Luzon regions map. If the MIMAROPA region is somehow associated with Luzon island, the details of that association ought to be clarified in the Luzon article and in other articles (e.g., the Mimaropa and Regions of the Philippines articles)
 * The color for the Central Luzon region ought to be changed so as not to make Laguna de Bay and Lake Taal seem to be part of that region, and Palawan Island probably ought to be shown on the Luzon regions map.
 * A separate File:Luzon_island.PNG image ought to be made which eliminates the bits of the image which are not on Luzon island itself.
 * After the Luzon island map image is available, the Luzon article ought to be changed to use that image instead of the Luzon regions image.

What do you think? Could you put this on your to-do list? If not, do you mind my taking a crack at it?

Or perhaps this discussion ought to be located at Talk:Luzon. If you think it belongs there, feel free to move it.

Cheers, Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 21:54, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
 * There are several definitions of "Luzon". The two mostly in use are the "island" and the "island group". The former is the "geographical" definition while the latter is the "political" one. The geographical definition refers to the Luzon mainland; the political definition is the part of the Philippines within Regions I to V, NCR and CAR. Think of the analogy between Great Britain and the Orkneys, Shetlands and the Isle of Wight.
 * I haven't checked the MIMAROPA article, but the Regions of the Philippines includes that region within Luzon.
 * The map has the geographical (red shade) and the political definition (red+maroon shades). It should be quite apparent that the island shaded red is Luzon island per se.
 * The lakes are white, which should be a visual cue that it's a body of water and there's no land in there.
 * – H T  D  22:35, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Template:Infobox PhilGenChamp


A tag has been placed on Template:Infobox PhilGenChamp, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to have no meaningful content or history, and the text is unsalvageably incoherent. If the page you created was a test, please use the sandbox for any other experiments you would like to do.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Template:Infobox PhilGenChamp


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Philippines national football team
Please do not remove! you can see the biggest defeat of the Malaysian national football team, there is a 8-2, 6-0, 7–1 and etc. (Tommy 11:10, 11 October 2014 (UTC))
 * Er no. The biggest defeat is the biggest defeat. God this is basic English. – H T  D  13:08, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
 * And apparently, basic mathematics too. Apparently there was a 14-1 loss against Malaysia that's bigger than the 12-goal losses against Indonesia. – H T  D  13:13, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

Invitation for a discussion: Serbia national basketball team
Hey, I would like to invite you for a discussion here: Final disscussion: Results/medals history. Please, participate.-- AirWolf  talk  13:34, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Volleyball players layout
Wikiproject volleyball would like to hear your opinion in this discussion. Thanks, Osplace 21:14, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

careful
not sure why you want to [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Module%3ABasketball_color%2Fdata&diff=630252216&oldid=630239419 mangle the colors for Golden State]. Frietjes (talk) 17:43, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I'd have to blame technology on this one lol – H T  D  17:59, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

NCAA Season 90
So, we will NOT put the 3rd place playoff anymore? TNSD (talk) 14:44, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
 * At this point you can choose only one. Which is more important? Or we could ditch both in the brackets. The problem with the one you're using is that it's flat out wrong; you used the 4th seed playoff options for the #1 seed, and the 2nd seed playoff for the #3 seed. – H T  D  15:13, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Oh, okay. I get it. TNSD (talk) 04:00, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

I need your help please
Hi, I need your help in moving the Digital transition section of ABS-CBN Corporation article to DWWX-TV article. I think the section is more appropriate in the DWWX-TV article since it pertains to the flagship TV station of ABS-CBN. I am not familiar with moving a section although I have read the guide in moving a whole article unto another. I hope you can help me. Thank you. God bless. Hollyckuhno (talk) 13:24, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
 * You could just cut-paste it to the destination article? – H T  D  13:29, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

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2014 FIBA Basketball World Cup squads
Hello, I do not agree with your last change to this article because, in my opinion, it is not factually correct. Firstly, contrary to your reasoning, separate conferences are not members of USA Basketball, they are associate members of NCAA (you should check that before putting a statement in). Secondly, conferences are not separate championships, there are games played between teams from separate conferences, and there is a final NCAA tournament consisting of best teams picked from various conferences. Therefore, all these conferences belong to a single system of competition and it should be shown as such in the table (otherwise we should separate East and West Conferences of NBA, right?). Thirdly, there were 8 NCAA players in the world championships, somehow you put 9 players in. Based on these arguments, I am considering reverting your changes. Skorpionas (talk) 11:32, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
 * The difference between NBA conferences and "NCAA" conferences is that the latter have legal personality. Even without the NCAA they could hold championships, as in what's happening in college football. You could consider the NCAA tournament as the American college version of the Euroleague, and its college tournaments as the national leagues.
 * Also, they could be members of USAB while being NCAA "members". USAB supplies the referees in these games they can't get those if they aren't members. – H T  D  11:43, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Also, the "federation" refer to the "national basketball federation", not the eventual championship the players and teams were aiming for. – H T  D  11:58, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Again, you make an incorrect statement. USAB do not supply any referees as NCAA referees work as independent contractors, but in this case it is not even relevant as we talk about 'players per league', not 'referees per league'. Also, you say conferences 'could be' members of USAB, but as a matter of fact they 'are not', they are members of NCAA, so it is an irrelevant argument too. Talking about 'national federations', in terms of basketball conferences, their 'national federation' is NCAA as it is NCAA which regulates and sanctions the rules at the collegiate level, USAB is not connected in any way to it. Also, I think representing NCAA players as a single line is better in terms of encyclopedia's informational purpose. However, I can agree that conferences have legal separation, so my suggested compromise is as follows - players could be listed as per separate conference, but the 'federation' should be noted as NCAA as it is the one which sanctions the rules. Skorpionas (talk) 12:31, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
 * My suggested compromise is opposite: have a single line for NCAA players, with USA Basketball as the "federation". You're very much mistaken that the NCAA is "not connected" to USA Basketball; the NCAA is one of the founders of USA Basketball, and the NCAA even has someone in the FIBA rules committee. They're the ones who made up that possession arrow rule in lieu of jump balls that FIBA now uses. – H T  D  14:09, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I agree with your compromise. And you are right that NCAA are members of USAB, the same as NBA too. Although the primary function of USAB is just organising the U.S. national teams. Skorpionas (talk) 12:31, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

Biggest defeat determined by margin
Hi Howard, there is some confusion in my mind. If according to the Philippines national football team match statistics, Philippines first biggest defeat is 15-1 to Malaya, while the second is 15-0 to Japan. Isn't if determined by margin, both should also be include? as 15 minus 1 = 15-0.. Needs your opinion, thanks! ~ Muffin Wizard;) 09:48, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
 * 15-1=14
 * 15-0=15
 * 15>14
 * Ergo Japan has the bigger win. – H T  D  19:50, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Japan 15–0 Philippines says that the 15-1 defeat vs. MAS was the biggest defeat of the Philippines until the 15-0 loss vs. JPN. – H T  D  20:39, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Leon Miguel
Hi, Howard,

Started removing the references to FB and IMDB as suggested. Cheers!

Cmerioles (talk) 08:48, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
 * The thing is you have to remove the sentences/paragraphs that are cited by those bad references. – H T  D  11:51, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Happy New Year Howard the Duck!


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