User talk:Howard the Duck/Archive5

About Pmgomez
Just thought you'd be interested to know...after I made my comments on the Images for Deletion for the tagged Xavier School photos, Pmgomez began looking at my contributions and started looking for one of my articles which he later edited with rather unusual gusto. I won't contest the edits for now (I'll be working to improve the article), but I'm on my watch. --- Tito Pao 07:53, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I think the edits weren't that bad. Everybody does that, even me :evilsmiley: -- Howard  the   Duck  12:13, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
 * You've got a point. Accordingly, I edited the articles. Btw, I'd also want your advise on archiving talk pages...how long is long, and in your opinion when is the right time to archive discussions? This is for a talk page on one of the articles on my watch list that is getting longer and longer...I'm not sure if it's the right time to archive the discussions or if I should wait a little bit more. --- Tito Pao 15:04, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
 * For usertalk pages, once it has a notice like "this page is ## kb" I archive it already. As for article talk pages, the safest thing to do is to archive non-existent discussions. -- Howard  the   Duck  15:11, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Season's Greetings!
Enjoy this and this --Pinay06 (Talk•Email) 05:00, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Merry Christmas.
In the spirit of the Reason for the season, may I take privilege of offering a simple greeting: Merry Christmas. :) { PMGOMEZ } 16:11, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
 * As they say, "walang personalan, trabaho lang" hahaha. -- Howard  the   Duck  02:39, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Torch relay
First they are separate NOCs. Second those are their IOC designations. Third please follow the Country - City format. Thanks. Merry Christmas. Passer-by 16:56, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Compare http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%2215+countries%22+%22Torch+relay%22+site%3Adoha-2006.com and http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%2213+countries%22+%22Torch+relay%22+site%3Adoha-2006.com for number of countries. See http://doha-2006.com/gis/menuroot/torchrelay/relay_route.html for way of listing. Passer-by 19:05, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Haven't I explained this already? NOCs are organizations. The torch went to places. If you go Madison Square Garden, you don't say "I went to the New York Knicks," but instead, "I went to New York City. -- Howard  the   Duck  02:38, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Those are not merely designations to the NOCs, but to the countries participated. In Asian Games, Korea means South Korea, and Korea DPR means North Korea. Officially the torch went through 15 countries, not 13 independent sovereign states. Passer-by 00:15, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Again, the torch went to places, while the NOCs participated. If the torch went to Athens does that mean Greece participated? -- Howard  the   Duck  00:55, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Wrong. As per official sources discussed in Talk:2006_Asian_Games, all mention either "13 countries" or "15 countries and regions". Never do they ever say "15 countries"--Huaiwei 12:52, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Not exactly wrong, as you may want to emphasize; I've posted other sources with other descriptions like "14 countries", etc. -- Howard  the   Duck  13:41, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I was refering to official sources, ie sources from the Asian Games website itself.--Huaiwei 14:37, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but we should also give 3rd-party sources a chance too. -- Howard  the   Duck  14:48, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Sure, but its clear the majority are saying either 13 countries or 15 countries and regions isnt it? ;)--Huaiwei 15:24, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Maybe, but we can't leave out the rest. -- Howard  the   Duck  15:29, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Sure, but when there is only one figure which can be presented, surely one of them have to prevail. Community concensus seems to be pointing at 13 countries so far.--Huaiwei 16:05, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually, I'd like it to be 13 countries, with HK and Macau under China, but without the ", China" suffix. -- Howard  the   Duck  16:09, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Which is the format already presented currently, unless passers-by reverts again.--Huaiwei 16:19, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I guess an RFC will iron out things. -- Howard  the   Duck  16:29, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

changes by user
Hi! User:Lagalag seems to be changing articles of Filipino people from Filipino to Filipino. Is this change correct? IMHO, all these similar edits should be reverted. I already have for my watchlist, but there is probably a long list. Please advice...--Guest818(talk) 07:47, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I think it's correct. -- Howard  the   Duck  07:55, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I feel otherwise but hey. That's not why I'm here. Berserkerz Crit 18:12, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Test: if saw a Wikipedia article, "Fernando Poe, Jr. was a Filipino actor..." I'd first look in the Philippines, -- Howard  the   Duck  07:40, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Re PMGomez
Just wanted to tell you how great you're handling the situation lol. Keep it up. Rationality and civility are the enemies of stubborn or clueless people. =) Berserkerz Crit 18:12, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Hey, at least I'm playing games with him. Every time I ask a question, he says, you look. lawl. -- Howard  the   Duck  07:25, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

PMGomez's response
User_talk:Berserkerz_Crit { PMGOMEZ } 01:34, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Do you really have to butt in discussion of different people? -- Howard  the   Duck  04:47, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, because it's about me. Should you want a private convo, use email or other private means. { PMGOMEZ } 06:56, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but user talk pages are supposed to be private... And I only use my Wikipedia email in very important situations. -- Howard  the   Duck  07:00, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Where does it say that user talk pages are private? Hmm? { PMGOMEZ } 02:18, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Come on now, use your common sense, that's why it's prefixed with "User:", right? -- Howard  the   Duck  03:09, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I was forcing myself not to respond to this stupid statement but just to help bar asinine content from happening even further..."Remember that all talk pages are public. If you want to communicate privately, try using e-mail ..."Talk_page { PMGOMEZ } 05:28, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Lol I guess I should have known he checks up on your user page. [Reply on PMGomez' talk page]. Sorry for the trouble Howard and PMGomez. =D Berserkerz Crit 08:39, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

ISS Template
I am glad I was following the discussion at WT:TAMBAY. Now, I've updated the infobox of Holy Spirit School of Tagbilaran. I still have several SS in my watchlist, and I'll be working on them this week. --Pinay (talk•email) 08:25, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Can you help me check the affiliations parameter? it is not showing: CEAP and PAASCU. Thank you. --Pinay (talk•email) 08:57, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Perhaps "affiliation" without the "s" might do the trick. -- Howard  the   Duck  12:46, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

2006 in the Philippines
My apologies. I thought those would be acceptable since the PBB Celebrity edition winner was mentioned there and the date she won. I won't do it again, peace ok? John earlm 15:54, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Sorry for that. But the reason why PBB:CE was there since it was reality contest, and generally, reality contests, (PPS, PPB, PI) are accepted. -- Howard  the   Duck  15:56, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Infobox K-12 School
How similar is Infobox K-12 School to that deleted Philippines template? -- Steel 18:33, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I suspect it has the same code. But I can't check since the history of the deleted infobox is gone too... -- Howard  the   Duck  11:23, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Changing other user's image licenses
Please do not change the licenses other users have placed on their images. A pd-self tag or anything along that lines means that the user releases all rights to it as they made it themselves. The tag you added to Image:XS typebanner.png created a false copyright on the image where one does not exist. Metros232 16:28, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, I just followed User:Mithril Cloud on what he did... -- Howard  the   Duck  16:31, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, I just reverted that one. I only changed the license for that one since you stated that it's not eligible for CC. -- Mithril Clou  d  16:40, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Since it's a logotype? -- Howard  the   Duck  16:42, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
 * It's a reproduction of what the logotype looks like as far as I can tell. Hence the "Own work, based on existing samples." summary. Metros232 16:48, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
 * So is it a derived work? -- Howard  the   Duck  16:51, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't believe so. In this list of copyrightable and not, it appears that typography and calligraphy aren't copyrightable.  Metros232 16:56, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Counterexample: So this isn't: Image:Ucla designlogo.gif? -- Howard  the   Duck  16:58, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

(unindent)I think that the UCLA logo is actually used as a logo and the De La Salle "logo" is not. Based on De La Salle's University Identity page, it appears that this isn't a logo that they use. It looks like SunKing created this logotype based on the font standards that the identity page lays out. Am I reading that page correctly? Metros232 17:03, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Hmmm. How about if it appears with the logo, like on the walls of La Salle's building? -- Howard  the   Duck  17:06, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't quite follow what you mean and how it relates to the image. From what I see, it's a completely different logo that SunKing created using the font guidelines but not the logo guidelines.  Metros232 17:14, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Sorry, it's 1AM here (lol)... the thing is, the logoface seems to appear with the logo on one of La Salle's buildings at Manila (I'm not sure, though), making it a part of the logo. -- Howard  the   Duck  17:21, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't remember any building in the campus that has both the logo and logotype on it. However, the logotype is used on official letters from the university but with the "Manila" text aligned on a different position. I do believe SunKing's version is just based from the guidelines and not an exact replica of the logotype. -- Mithril Clou  d  17:24, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Ok, from what I understand about the link provided:
 * The logo is copyrighted
 * The logo can appear without the logotype
 * The logotype can't appear without the logo unless it's part of a text.
 * Ergo, the logotype is copyrighted since it must always appear with the copyrighted logo. And since it's copyrighted, it is a derived work. (Can we email DLSU on this?) -- Howard  the   Duck  17:30, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
 * It doesn't appear that the image that SunKing created and the logotype that the school uses are the same (particularly the way the top line and bottom line are aligned). But, yes, perhaps you should email DLSU to explain the situation and get their input.  Metros232 17:42, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, the page where the logotype appears has a copyright notice, so ergo, its copyrighted, and the file in question is a derivative work. -- Howard  the   Duck  17:55, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Fair use in list
Remove the all. Fair Use is for critical commentary (WP:FUC), and should only be used when it contributes significantly to the article. Unless the summary directly references the screenshot and the rationale explains why it is necessary to show that particular frame, then this isn't the case. ed g2s &bull; talk 20:17, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Eskaya peer review
Hehehe. sorry about that.Thanks for correcting. --Pinay (talk•email) 05:09, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Metro Manila water zones map
If I'm not mistaken, the municipality of Dasmariñas (located at the bottom of the map) should be coloured in gray, as it is under the Dasmariñas Water District. dirrtychristian 07:21, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I just followed the one said at INQ7.net. If you provide me a source I can change it. I also know SJDM City isn't a part, but INQ7 says so. -- Howard  the   Duck  07:23, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I tried looking for maps of the area coverage of the DWD in its website, but they don't seem to have it. Although this page does mention that DWD has served 90% of the municipality as early as 1994, and that the municipal government has required that developers let the DWD supply water for them. dirrtychristian 07:37, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I've seen maynilad's website and Dasma wasn't mentioned. I'll be changing it. -- Howard  the   Duck  07:48, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for defending CatDiffuse
Thank you for your defense of CatDiffuse: I had no idea it was up for deletion, and I am amazed at the response it has generated. I invite you to review and participate in WP:∫, to bring order to Wikipedia. Cwolfsheep 05:37, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Hehe, thanks. The TFD nomination was quite silly, since that would entail everything despite being classified to a specified category, added to a general category, like seeing South Africa, Albert Einstein and wind tunnel all under Category:Science, and wondering, what the...? -- Howard  the   Duck  05:47, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Your friend
I've got rid of him. -- Steel 13:42, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks! -- Howard  the   Duck  13:48, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Cesar Montano
Please see discussion Talk:Cesar_Montano here. --Pinay (talk•email) 10:58, 11 January 2007 (UTC) (Modified by -- Howard   the   Duck  on 04:39, 12 January 2007 (UTC).)

Your edits on Philippines
Hello. Before making potentially controversial edits, it is recommended that you discuss them first on the article's talk page. Otherwise, people might consider your edits to be vandalism. Thank you. Xiner (talk, email) 20:02, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
 * The diff is here. Xiner (talk, email) 20:04, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Nah, I was reverting vandalism and must have clicked on the wrong version. Vandalism was rampant on that day, coupled with the 2006 Luzon Strait earthquake, must have mixed things up. And this was like a week ago... -- Howard  the   Duck  05:01, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

merger of college leagues in the philippines
hi, i noticed that you advocate the merger of the different college sporting leagues in the Philippines. What would be the parameters for this merger in your opinion? For me, i don't think a complete merger will be good as this would entail a longer season for the competition and it would severely affect the studies of the student-athletes.....your thoughts please...139.130.237.18 05:58, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I'd advocate a March Madness-type of tournament. The old leagues will be dissolved, a new system of leagues - based on geographical location would be used instead. Each league would have like 6-7 schools, and the top teams figure in a single-elimination-type of tourney... (since this is unrelated to Wikipedia, you can email me instead of you'd want to continue the discussion.) -- Howard  the   Duck  07:22, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Edit summary on Yeng Constantino
> ''to say Yeng's song is rock is...... nevermind''

I had a good laugh on this one :) Anyway, thanks for clarifying the genre...I wasn't really sure if rock was the best choice since the original phrase that I edited out read as "rebel rocker", whatever that means =) --- Tito Pao 12:13, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Too many rebel rockers in the world make the rebels an organized army... and rebels don't have organized armies... Nevermind :p -- Howard  the   Duck  12:44, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Addendum: I won't even classify her as a pop rock artist, more on the acoustic music side, maybe. -- Howard  the   Duck  12:54, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Template:Infobox secondary school
From time to time, I check this template's changes, and I'm a bit confused about some of the changes. Your edits adding "Standardized test average: NSAT_MGS", "NSAT_MGS: NSAT_MPS", and "National ranking:National_ranking" seem ambiguous. I'm assuming that the first two are Philippines-related. Could you please explain to me what these examinations are. I'm in South Carolina, USA, and I'm not familiar with many non-American concepts. Could you please help me out? Thanks! &mdash; W. Flake ( talk ) 21:17, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
 * It's basically like the SATs. (As a matter of fact, all high schoolers will be having an exam today.) -- Howard  the   Duck  07:07, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
 * OK. Thanks for the clarification. Do you think that the same function might be served better by having using

|testname = NAME_OF_STANDARDIZED_TEST |testaverage = STANDARDIZED_TEST_AVERAGE
 * That way, the fields would be unambiguous worldwide, and could be used in any country. What do you think? &mdash; W. Flake  ( talk ) 17:04, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, I agree wholeheatedly. -- Howard  the   Duck  17:05, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the help. I replaced the two test specific versions with the version that I proposed above.  If you need any help migrating existing boxes, please let me know.  I'll have the documentation ready in a little while.  Thanks again! &mdash; W. Flake  ( talk ) 21:51, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Filipino people
I just reverted your edit to Filipino people where you deleted from the infobox those communities with populations less than 100,000 as non-notable. While this certainly makes the infobox more concise and readable, I have some reservations about doing so. For instance, the Filipino community in Bahrain is just 33,301 people but comprises nearly 5% of the total population. I think it would be less controversial to include all communities for which there is sourced information. Black Falcon 03:45, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
 * 33,301? That's like a barangay in Quezon City (lol), certainly not notable when compared to the Filipino population of 87 million. Maybe on the demographics of Bahrain it can (and should) be included but not on the Filipino people page. -- Howard  the   Duck  03:51, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
 * My apologies. I just noticed as I was reading through the article that there is a separate page for Overseas Filipino, which, if anywhere, is where this information (communities of less than 100,000) may be notable.  I will revert my edit promptly.  Black Falcon 03:58, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Why not merge this with other Filipino populations in the Middle East except Saudi Arabia? They'll most probably surpass 100,000. -- Howard  the   Duck  04:01, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
 * It would surpass 100,000, but then the same might have to be done for Europe (> 260,000 excluding the UK and Italy). I am not insisting that the populations in the Middle East be included -- the only reason I chose Bahrain was because the proportion of Filipinos in that country is relatively high.  However, such information about a numerically small but relatively (to the host country's population) large Filipino community would probably fit better in the Overseas Filipino article.  Contingent on my ability to find reliable sources, I will probably add such info to the Overseas Filipino infobox. Black Falcon 04:10, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, if you say so. -- Howard  the   Duck  04:17, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Your Appeal
Hi. Can you elaborate on your appeal on adding/editing section titles? What did i violate? Thanks a lot. John earlm 12:34, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
 * You can follow the capitalization rules. -- Howard  the   Duck  07:22, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Edit summaries
Please remember to include an edit summary, even for edits that you deem to be minor. It helps other editors and admins to track changes without always having to view the page history. Adrian M. H. 15:29, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Sometimes my edit can do a lot of things and describing it would be hard, and adding "misc edits" seem nonsensical for me, hehe. I try to add edit summaries when the article is heavily editerd by other people but for articles that I mostly edit, I don't add edit summaries anymore. -- Howard  the   Duck  07:22, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Wazzup with the copyrighted thing or what??
Uh... hi!!! I'm actually quite glad that someone who is good in computers like you (or is it because I'm a dummy?) edits Filipino-related articles but I can't help but be curious on what part of the articles I edited are copyrighted or came from another website?? I swear on my forefathers' graves that I didn't do something like that.

Didn't mean to fight or what, but ever since I was in 4th grade, I'm editing articles and it is the first time that someone actually said that I placed copyrighted materials on my editings.

Please tell me what the hell in my editings is wrong, and I will accept it with pleasure.

Hoping for your immediate response.

erika- sama 12:33, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
 * What page was tagged with a copyvio? Generally if you copy from another website and paste it on Wikipedia it's a copyright violation. -- Howard  the   Duck  08:16, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Portal:Bohol
Hey, Howard, can I ask for your help with this? All the topics on Bohol are in List_of_Bohol-related_topics. Please help me. The latest DYK (January 21) was on Arnold Zamora. Please let me know your availability. Thanks much. Best regards. --Ate Pinay (talk•email) 02:56, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
 * For now, the the Bohol Portal is redirected to this User:Pinay06/Portal:Bohol--Ate Pinay  (talk•email) 05:30, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Managing portals is time-consuming, and since I'm sort of managing Portal:Philippines, I could not be able to contribute fulltime on the Bohol portal. -- Howard  the   Duck  05:37, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I know that...I just need your help to get me started off. I'll take it from there. Kung puede lang. Otherwise, paki recommend naman sino ang best other option ko after you. ok? Thanks mcuh, Howard. --Ate Pinay  (talk•email) 15:14, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Try looking at User:Howard the Duck/Template, I transferred P:RP's portal code there. -- Howard  the   Duck  15:17, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay...thanks ha? ingatz...--Ate Pinay  (talk•email) 19:05, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Rounin
Deleted images again. -Thanks -Nv8200p talk 03:39, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks, you were faster than me, hehehe. -- Howard  the   Duck  03:42, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

About Spanish language in the Philippines
Just wondering why did the Filipino Government abolished the Spanish language as the national language of the country?.. I find it hard to believe that they would do that. I recently visited Filipinas and Timor Leste last year and I totally enjoyed my holiday visit.. The only thing that shocked me that every one was speaking American-English instead of Spanish in Filipinas. I hope that the Filipino Government in the future will re-established the Spanish language as the national language, because it is the true official language of the country.--Ramírez 02:29, 29 January (UTC)
 * Don't ask and tell me that, I'm not the Philippine government. (You can try visiting Talk:Spanish language in the Philippines, if you'd want to.) But one thing's for sure; don't edit based on perception, edit based on facts. |-- Howard  the   Duck  05:30, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

A noticed was posted by YOU to merge Bgy. San Guillermo Morong Rizal with Morong Rizal, for what reason. its just a link about a barrio.

PBB "virtual game"?
I think you should give Charleslemark23 a heads-up on the Pinoy Big Brother "fantasy game" that he added to the article. I doubt if it should be included. - 上村七美 | talk 11:02, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I've added a test1 vandal notice on him/her. I'll notify him for further info if he does it again. -- Howard  the   Duck  11:03, 31 January 2007 (UTC)