User talk:Howardjp/Page 1

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Cheers, Sam Spade 16:02, 12 May 2004 (UTC)

UMCP Alumni
Hi, I've finished what I wanted to contribute to that section. Just wanted to make sure a little bit more was listed. Tallyho70 19:43, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Limited liability company
Quick catch! Yes, that was wrong. I note that Types of companies does state: (also Ltd in UK and Inc in US)
 * Limited liability company or LLC

This is wrong isn't it? Mark 19:28, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I believe that is wrong.  My understanding is that the UK does not have a business type similar to the LLC or GmbH.  But I do not know for certain.  -Howardjp 20:11, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Not Necessarily true
Take for instance this from UMCP page..."launching the joint NASA-University of Maryland "Deep Impact" spacecraft in early January, 2005. On July 4, 2005 the craft will land on the "Temple 1" comet to analyze its compenents and help scientists at the university and NASA better understand the composition of the universe"

Does that "sound like an advertisement," and to me that has "dated material." Your argument is not consistent; I can show you 47 more examples like that from colleges and universities across the wiki site. Who’s to say what is and isn’t appropriate. As long as the data is relevant, and accurate, I think it has a place
 * It includes a date, but it is not dated. It doesn't say "launching the joint NASA spacecraft recently...", which is out of date the moment it is typed.  That is also specific research.  While there are plenty of other university pages that are more hype for a second- (or lower) tier school than usable content, this is one I happened to catch pretty quickly. -Howardjp 18:59, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

It is poignant to see an individual like yourself accuse me of copyright violation. I’ve been to hundreds of college and university pages here on Wikipedia, and it seems that you’re not complaining about other schools (esp. UMCP), but you have a burden for the information on UMBC’s page.
 * You're an idiot. User:Jussenadv accused you of copyright violation.  And even if you were right, I am certain "poignant" is not the word that would describe it.  Frankly, I am not even certain relevant would come to mind.  Regardless, those other pages are not in my watchlist.  Just a handful of schools whose pages I have previously edited.  -Howardjp 18:59, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

How can you be certain as to what describes MY feelings. Information that I posed first was not dated material, but did refer to dates. Even if there was, this is an encyclopedia, but it is important to understand that this is also a fluctuating encyclopedia. This can be seen even on the UMCP site with phrases like “In the past five years…” Obviously, in the next five years that statement becomes irrelevant and not true.


 * You're right. I just fixed it so it says "Since 2000..." -Howardjp 18:20, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

Second, you have no information as to a copyright violation, because you (or any other user) did not consult me as to the permission I had to present such information. Copyright violation deals with the owner of the material, and the individual who copies it, not third party accusers. If User:Jussenadv accused me of violation, they had no contact with me to ask about permissions granted to display such information, so therefore their accusation is irrelevant in my site.


 * Again, you're an idiot. I never accused you of copyright violation and have never edited your posts on those grounds.  Feel free to complain, if you'd like, but at least find the right target.  -Howardjp 18:20, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

In addition, “hype,” in your connotative sense, refers to information that is not usable, because there is an assumption that is is not relevant or true. That has absolutely nothing to do with second (or lower) tier schools. Hype can plague “first tier” or “fifth tier” schools. “First tier” schools have no more right to have a plethora of information about its institution that a “fifth tier” school. It is a fallacy to think that “hype” is only something that second (or lower) tier schools display.

P.S. It is bad taste to refer to me as an “idiot,” sure we may not agree, but name-calling is starkly immature.


 * Then don't prove me right. -Howardjp 18:20, 6 May 2005 (UTC)