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Your recent editing history at List of New Zealand records in swimming shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

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The information you removed were being added to the page for more than 7.5 years, earliest record can date back to May 2014 for the long course mixed relay section by Montell 74. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_New_Zealand_records_in_swimming&oldid=609766605#Mixed_relay Recently I just added a reference from FINA - the governing association of swimming to that section, and add another section for short course mix medley. You have removed the wrong section which has been existed for years.

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List of Hong Kong records in swimming
Please note ratification procedure before editing. Thanks. Montell 74 (talk) 12:35, 12 August 2022 (UTC)


 * If you check the record published by HKASA, by the day I edited the association already update the latest records (Ref: https://www.hkgswimming.org.hk/zh-hant/viewfile/?file=dXBsb2FkL3RlbXBsYXRlLzUzNC9wZGZfZmlsZXNfMi82MmQ2M2RlYTc2ZWVmLnBkZg==), so I don't understand why you undid by edit, thanks for your attention. Howekung (talk) 14:57, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

Hongkong swimming records
Hello Howekung. Why do you not consider ratification procedure by HKASA? Montell 74 (talk) 19:00, 14 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Your standard for what considers as "ratified" is too strict compare with majority of the users, if the association has added the record to their record list, there's no reason for you to wait for the official "ratified" confirmation. Please stop keep on undoing different national record pages. Howekung (talk) 06:31, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Too strict?? Please have a look at the official record list. Association mentions explicitly that new marks awaiting ratification. Please stop ignore this.Montell 74 (talk) 09:25, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
 * From what I see among pages of different national records, seems you are the only user that like to undo different edits add those "ratify" signs to records, basically all other users will just replace with the old time, and I can't see that you will check regularly on different federation websites to update the status afterwards. Furthermore, for the case that I edit (Hong Kong Swimming Record), if you pay attention to the national federation website, you may notice that that "waiting for official ratify" is only a symbolic thing, they won't update that until new records are broken, so I wonder why you need to struggle on such minor issues. Howekung (talk) 06:46, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Illogical. When HKASA mentions it "symbolically", I wonder why the vast majority of records are ratified.
 * You should have noticed that a large number of records are not ratified for various reasons. Unfortunately, your "majority" does not take this into account and misinformation remains. Montell 74 (talk) 21:16, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Who is the "majority"? Please note the special abbrevation (#) for unratified records in legend. This is what the "majority" has to consider. Otherwise feel free to discuss on talk page.Montell 74 (talk) 09:32, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

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