User talk:Hpyro23

Howie Pyro‎
You should wait for others to write an article about subjects in which you are personally involved. This applies to articles about you, your achievements, your band, your business, your publications, your website, your relatives, and any other possible conflict of interest.

Creating an article about yourself is strongly discouraged. If you create such an article, it might be listed on articles for deletion. Deletion is not certain, but many feel strongly that you should not start articles about yourself. This is because independent creation encourages independent validation of both significance and verifiability. All edits to articles must conform to No original research, Neutral point of view, and Verifiability.

If you are not "notable" under Wikipedia guidelines, creating an article about yourself may violate the policy that Wikipedia is not a personal webspace provider and would thus qualify for speedy deletion. If your achievements, etc., are verifiable and genuinely notable, and thus suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia, someone else will probably create an article about you sooner or later. (See Wikipedians with articles.)  MKoltnow 06:31, 29 January 2008 (UTC) Either your username is inappropriate (because you are not Howie Pyro, but since you're editing that article people might think you are), or you edit that article with conflict of interest.

Don't forget the principles of verifiability from reliable third-party sources, and that we always edit with a neutral point of view, which is hard to do if you're editing an article about yourself. MKoltnow 06:31, 29 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi Hpyro23. I'm Enviroboy; just another editor like yourself.  The above message was from .  MKoltnow was referring to the fact that autobiographies in Wikipedia are strongly discouraged.  When writing about yourself, It's difficult to maintain a neutral point of view and to exclude original research - two of Wikipedia's core policies.  I see no substantial problems with your edits but I have tagged Howie Pyro as an autobiography so that other editors can clean it up if necessary.  Happy editing.  Enviroboy TalkCs 17:10, 29 January 2008 (UTC)


 * No one said your edits were vandalism; just that it's difficult to maintain WP:NPOV and WP:NOR when you are writing about yourself. According to the guideline (WP:Autobiography), fact correction and removal of vandalism are encouraged, so thanks.  Those tags across the top of Howie Pyro only mean that the article needs style and format editing (like most Wikipedia articles do).  Their purpose is to attract other editors to improve the article.  There is no reason for you to stop working on it.  If you want to handle those issues yourself, you can check out Wikipedia's manual of style.  Verifiability is the other major issue; this requires that all the facts are backed-up by independent, third-party sources.  For the syntax for citing sources (citation templates, inline citations, etc.) see WP:CITE.  Happy editing.  Enviroboy TalkCs 18:32, 1 February 2008 (UTC)