User talk:Hrhf1

Neoconservatism
Do you really believe the neoconservatives are not behind the drastic changes in what is now called the Tory party? A Canadian of the 1970s would hardly recognize the darned thing. -- Orange Mike 02:58, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Hey Orange Mike:

Sorry, but the Conservative governance just hasn't worked out the way many had feared, although some still use the threat of a neo-con state as a political crutch to beat fear into the masses. The truth is since they've taken power they've governed from the centre, and if they want to hold power that's where they'll stay. They certainly do not resemble much of the traits on the neo-conservatism page. Another thing that sets them apart here is that the religious aspects of Bush Republicanism don't translate to Canada. Ya, sure there are many in the Cons that are devout Christians, but they exist in all the other parties as well.


 * But this article isn't about the Religious Right, it's about that specific mutation of conservatism called neoconservatism, a distinctly non-religious movement which seems to me to have some real influence in the new Conservative Party's ideological makeup. -- Orange Mike 14:29, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

You're correct it's not a religious right piece, but those two groups aren't necessarily mutually exclusive anymore, call it a neo-neo-conservatism if you will which as been defined by Bush's government and it's supporters. There is no doubt some flavour of neo-con may rear it's head up here from time to time, as it does in other countries; however, the difference here is it's not spouted on the campaign trail, or goverment policy. I guess my point is the edit was made by myself because I feel neo-conservatism has not dominated Canadidan politics any more than it has in other non-US jurisdictions, so to single this country out I believe is in error. That phrase (neo-con) is a dangerous lightning rod in Canada for supporters of other parties that try and fear monger, and until such time as the Conservative party (or any other for that matter) actually starts governing based on that theology I'll stick to my edit.