User talk:Hrsemn4

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Speedy deletion nomination of Zoomdoggle's BuckyBalls
A tag has been placed on Zoomdoggle's BuckyBalls, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the guidelines on spam as well as FAQ/Business for more information. You may also wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the Article Wizard.

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Speedy deletion

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 * Cheers, and happy editing. Dloh cierekim  17:38, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for being much more constructive and not so criticizing, as I found the other "moderators" to be. I would like to rebuild this page if possible, so could you clear up a couple of questions?

1) Is the deletion due simply to the accidental link to a commercial website, or are you (meaning wikipedia) saying that no page should be made on this subject?

2) If it is due to the latter above, would it be reasonable to add this info to the "popular culture" section of the fullerene article, even though you call the connection "tenuous"? How about adding to the Jake Bronstein article, certainly that connection is more tenable?

Thank you again for your constructive suggestions and for giving me a little more faith in Wikipedia's moderation process. Please look over some of the other comments from other moderators and consider advising them of other ways of handling similar situations.Hrsemn4 (talk) 15:27, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

August 2010
Please do not add promotional material to Wikipedia, as you did to Zoomdoggle's BuckyBalls. While objective prose about products or services is acceptable, Wikipedia is not intended to be a vehicle for advertising or promotion. Thank you. ''"at the request of the company"? PURE SPAM'' Wuh  Wuz  Dat  15:58, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

I have removed it, I can understand the confusion, so I apologize.Hrsemn4 (talk) 17:21, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Please stop. If you continue to add promotional material to Wikipedia, you may be blocked from editing. Wuh Wuz  Dat  16:02, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

I removed it.Hrsemn4 (talk) 17:21, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Please stop removing speedy deletion notices from pages that you have created yourself, as you did with Zoomdoggle's BuckyBalls. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Wuh Wuz  Dat  16:05, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

I did not intend to, I was trying to respond to it. The instructions were a bit confusing, I apologize.Hrsemn4 (talk) 17:21, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Zoomdoggle's BuckyBalls
Please explain your statement that "I do not work for Zoomdoggle, or any subsidiary thereof" when your edit summary for your creation of the page says, "Made new page at the request of the company". Thank you. — GorillaWarfare talk 17:09, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

The company "Zoomdoggle" mentioned on it's Facebook page that it did not have a Wiki page and asked if there were any "fans" that would like to try and build one. "At the request of the company" is one way of understanding that, but I do not work for Zoomdoggle. In addition, I'm trying very hard to make this page the "right way", but the guidance for doing so is a bit cryptic and hard to find. I have removed the material that could have been understood as being for commercial gain (I made a mistake, was notified, and fixed it). To delete this page seems to send the message that Wikipedia demands perfection from the onset and does not allow for people to err and learn. All my "violations" listed have been as a result of misunderstanding the method by which the pages are constructed and these "notifications" posted. Please give me a chance to learn from my mistakes. Thank you for your guidance thus far.Hrsemn4 (talk) 17:19, 24 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately, this still read as promotional. I find no evidence of notability on the web. Asking fans to support an article on the subject's Facebook page is an old strategy to attempt to raise a ruckus over a deletion or get some hapless fan to attempt to create an article-- which does not regard Wikipedia guidelines and policies-- the final arbiter of which is consensus. Deleting this page sends no other message than articles about subjects that do not meet our guidelines and articles that serve only to promote the subject will be deleted as the opportunity presents itself. Certainly the idea that the article "will hopefully showcase some of the marvels of this little gadget," makes it clear that the article's purpose is to promote the subject. That the creator of the thing has an article does not mean that the thing does-- notability is not inherited. Beyond using the name as a catchy way of attracting attention, this has nothing to do with Buckyballs. Once again, the tenuous connection does not make this notable. You are more than welcome to learn from your mistakes and contribute constructively. I suggest that you begin by reading up on WP:N and WP:V so that you understand our notability and verifiability requirements.  Dloh  cierekim  17:37, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

August 2010
This is the only warning you will receive regarding your disruptive edits. If you vandalize Wikipedia again, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. - F ASTILY  (T ALK ) 18:21, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

With all due respect, what "disruptive edits" have I made? What "vandalism" did I perform? From your own redirect: "Any good-faith effort to improve the encyclopedia, even if misguided or ill-considered, is not vandalism. Even harmful edits that are not explicitly made in bad faith are not vandalism. For example adding a controversial personal opinion to an article is not vandalism, although reinserting it despite multiple warnings can be disruptive (however, edits/reverts over a content dispute are never vandalism, see edit warring)."

This is EXACTLY what happened in this case, I attempted to make a page and made mistakes along the way. Each time, I acknowledged my error, apologized, and did my best to remedy the supposed "violation" i.e. removing the link to a commerical site which I do not own or have any connection with outside of being a consumer once I was warned it was problematic. Your accusation seems to imply forethought and malice, neither of which are present or could be proven to be so. Please be more considerate of new users, what I take to be a malicious tone in your "warning" makes me very unlikely to trust Wikipedia in the future.Hrsemn4 (talk) 21:52, 24 August 2010 (UTC)