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A warning
I've come to make these warnings quite a bit to certain users yet many of them had the stubborn habit of ignoring me and have been topic banned from Armenian/Turkey related articles. I'm only going to ask you once sir, cease your disruptive articles right now, stop with the systematic distortions, or it's a straight complaint to Wikipedia administrators. I've asked you kindly more than once and yet you have chosen not to heed my words. I won't ask you again. Thanks.--Marshal Bagramyan (talk) 20:54, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

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Hi
Hi - What's the story about vandalism, which articles? Rgds, Gokhan (talk) 11:34, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Erich Feigl 1
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 * Dog eats dog! :-) Meowy  18:57, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

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As you seem to be engaged in edit warring in an area covered by an arbitration committee case, this is to be your warning that discretionary sanctions, as provided in this case may be applied to you. Specifically, further edit warring may lead to a block from editing, or a temporary ban from editing articles on which edit wars have taken place. Please make sure to use dispute resolution rather than engaging in repeated reverts. Khoikhoi 05:21, 26 June 2008 (UTC)


 * The above warning was not in regards to Erzurum, but all the articles you have been recently edit warring on. You have been mass-reverting on multiple articles recently, something that is extremely disruptive. Most of your contributions consist of edit warring. I know in your view that you are trying to bring neutrality to these articles, but your previous methods (of constantly reverting) obviously haven't been working, it only brings disruption to these pages. Instead you must follow the dispute resolution process, and keep in mind that Wikipedia is not a battleground. Calling other editors "well known propagandists", is not only inappropriate, but also a violation of Civility. This is why I warned you that if you continue to revert against consensus on all these articles, you may be subject to these discretionary sanctions:


 * "Any uninvolved administrator may, on his or her own discretion, impose sanctions on any editor working in the area of conflict if, despite being warned, that editor repeatedly or seriously fails to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, any expected standards of behavior, or any normal editorial process. The sanctions imposed may include blocks of up to one year in length; bans from editing any page or set of pages within the area of conflict; bans on any editing related to the topic or its closely related topics; restrictions on reverts or other specified behaviors; or any other measures which the imposing administrator believes are reasonably necessary to ensure the smooth functioning of the project."


 * So, please follow the dispute resolution process instead of constantly reverting these pages, or you may be placed on the sanctions mentioned above. Khoikhoi 20:50, 26 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I don't quite follow. Meowy for example is already on restrictions, see the List of users placed under supervision and this notification on his/her talk page. So are other users. What I'm trying to stress is that I don't want to have to put you on that list, but if you continue editing disruptively, I will have no other choice. Simply reverting again and again is not the proper solution to reach neutrality in articles, it is by discussing your changes and getting a consensus with other editors. Khoikhoi 01:32, 27 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately, since you have chosen to continue to engage in disruptive editing, I am going to have to place you on editing restrictions. Please see below. Khoikhoi 06:44, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Erich Feigl 2
The article still has a lot of issues, but I am particularly curious about the source for your claim that Erich Feigl was a "Professor at University of Vienna". In which academic field? Regards, HaeB (talk) 02:09, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

It is a good question. All my references refer to his Prof. title and U. of Vienna, but I have not been able to determine further detail due to my limited German. I need to ask around a little. Any help would be appreciated.--Murat (talk) 15:18, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, forgetting the question about his faculty for the moment, could you at least tell me the reference which says that he was a professor at the University of Vienna? Regards, HaeB (talk) 16:18, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Erich Feigl
An article that you have been involved in editing, Erich Feigl, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Articles for deletion/Erich Feigl. Thank you. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? Namsos (talk) 16:52, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Not only I have been trying to edit this piece while fighting constant pov distorions, I have actually created this very entry. It has plenty of references to his life and work, and a lot more is easily available on line as his name produces thousands of hits. Your complaint sounds very disingenous at best. I am not all done yet though, it will get better, promise!--Murat (talk) 18:57, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

AN/I
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Notice of editing restrictions
Notice: Under the terms of Requests for arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan 2, any editor who edits articles which relate to the region of Turkey, Armenia, Azerbaijan and Iran and the ethnic and historical issues related to that area in an aggressive point of view manner marked by incivility may be placed under several editing restrictions, by notice on that editor's talk page. This notice is to inform you that based on your edits, you are hereby placed under the following restrictions:
 * 1) Revert limitation (formerly known as revert parole). You are limited to one revert per page per week, excepting obvious vandalism, and are required to discuss any content reversions on the page's talk page.
 * 2) Supervised editing (formerly known as probation). You may be banned by any administrator from editing any or all articles which relate to the region of Turkey, Armenia, Azerbaijan and Iran and the ethnic and historical issues related to that area should you fail to maintain a reasonable degree of civility in your interactions with one another concerning disputes which may arise.
 * 3) Civility supervision (formerly known as civility parole). If you make any edits which are judged by an administrator to be uncivil, personal attacks, or assumptions of bad faith, then you may be blocked for a short time of up to one week for repeat offenses.

Enforcement: Violations of limitations, supervision, or bans imposed by the remedies in this case may be enforced by brief blocks of up to a week in the event of repeat violations. After 5 blocks the maximum block period shall increase to one year.

Note: This notice is not effective unless given by an administrator and logged here. Khoikhoi 06:44, 29 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Ok, first off, let me clarify that reverting is when you undo someone else's edit (yes, it does include the re-addition of material that has been removed by another user). Your use of the word "vandalism" is incorrect in this case, because everything that you have been involved in so far is classified as a "content dispute", since you and your opponents have been disputing whether certain text should be included. This is not a case of vandalism (this is, for example). Secondly, many of the users that you have been reverting or the ones that have been reverting you are on the same restrictions, so IMO now everyone is equal, and no one is "winning" or "losing". What I've tried to explain to you is that edit wars get nothing accomplished. You keep reverting and reverting, and then someone reverts you, and the cycle continues. Wikipedia articles aren't meant to go back-and-forth like that. The only real way you get something accomplished is by discussing it with other users, in the hopes that you can form a compromise, or consensus. To answer your numbered questions:
 * After we last spoke you continued to revert . On Sason, you reverted 3 times in the last 24 hours. Even though you came close to breaking the three-revert rule (which you were blocked for on May 31), three reverts is not some sort of magic barrier that prevents you from being blocked. An admin could have easily blocked you for simply edit warring. This is the type of stuff that occurred on Armenian-Azeri pages for example before the arbitration case. After that many users were placed on editing restrictions, a lot of the problems were solved. Aggressive editing can be characterized as constant edit warring, and basically a method of getting your version of the article by constant reverting as opposed to discussion. Is is the exact opposite of what is outlined at WP:1RR. Even if you believe the information you are adding is NPOV, if it is contested by several users, the best thing is to discuss it with them, and once you have come to an agreement, to implement that version.
 * I'm sure you've tried to be civil, but here I notice you referring to your opponents as "vandals", this is inappropriate because as I explained above, you're involved in a content dispute here. If other users have personally attacked you, please show me links of this and I will warn them. It is never acceptable to do so.
 * Yes, it is possible. You can get mentored at Adopt-a-User. Wiki-adoption was created back in 2006 as a program designed to help new and inexperienced users.
 * Although you may disagree with him, it is within Namsos' right to nominate an article for deletion if he believes it is non-notable. However, as you can see from the discussion at Articles for deletion/Erich Feigl, it appears that many users there are deciding to keep the article, so I'm not sure that it matters anyways. Everything that you mention (awards, documentaries, books, Google hits, etc.) can be mentioned at the AfD (articles for deletion page). I have noticed that you've already made a comment there already. Make sure to keep an eye on that page, the discussion is typically open for five days.
 * I don't know the specifics about why your sources were removed, but if you feel like you're not getting anywhere with these disputes, you might try posting something at the Reliable Sources noticeboard if there is a dispute on whether your sources are valid or not. Another option is the new Ethnic and cultural conflicts noticeboard. Finally, after you have made all attempts at resolving the conflict (including those two links I gave you), and you still feel like nothing has been accomplished, you can check out formal mediation. There, a mediator will get involved and act as a third party.
 * I hope all that I have said is helpful. Please feel free to drop a note on my talk page if you have any further questions/comments. Khoikhoi 21:04, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

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