User talk:Hugh David Loxdale

June 2020
Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Talk:Login, appears to have been inappropriate, and has been reverted. Please feel free to use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and read the welcome page to learn more about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. Thank you. At the top of the page you were editing it says: "This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Login article." David Biddulph (talk) 15:46, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

Your user page
Your user page did not meet the purpose for a user page as laid down at WP:user pages, & would have been liable to speedy deletion under criterion U5. I have therefore moved its content to Draft:Hugh Victor Duke so that you can continue to work on it there. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:59, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

AfC notification: User:Hugh David Loxdale/sandbox has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at User:Hugh David Loxdale/sandbox. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 10:12, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

AfC notification: User:Hugh David Loxdale/sandbox has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at User:Hugh David Loxdale/sandbox. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 10:18, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Hugh Victor Duke has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Hugh Victor Duke. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 10:19, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Hugh Victor Duke (copy) (June 25)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Timtrent was:

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Fiddle  Faddle  12:48, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

User:Loxdale - are you the same person?
Dear Timrent

I am the same person! The page under username 'Loxdale' was created by, I believe, the Royal Entomological Society during the time (or shortly after) I was President of that Society. I had no hand in its original instigation and drafting but have updated it subsequently to add relevant information.

As for the new Wikipedia site under the user name 'Hugh David Loxdale', I started this in June 2020 so that I could create an entry about my late uncle Hugh Victor Duke, MC & Bar (1918-44) killed on D-Day, June 6th 1944. I did this because I was contacted by an historian (Christopher Jary of the Keep Museum, Dorchster, Dorset) who wished to obtain new information about him and also because there is a lot of recent interest in the D-Day landing and I thought people, including Wikipedia readers, might be interested in reading about Duke's life and times, as much as is known after 76 years since his untimely death. I had not realized that I didn't need to start a new Wiki account for each topic I wished to write about.

In that case, I intend to close down the second, newer account forthwith.

With best wishes,

Hugh Loxdale

Loxdale (talk) 09:23, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

There can be legitimate reasons for more than one account. I have two myself. If this is you please identity the ownership. Fiddle  Faddle  12:52, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Hugh Victor Duke has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Hugh Victor Duke. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 15:12, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Dear Editor,

Thank you for your thoughts and advice. I am using the abridged version Draft:Hugh Victor Dukeand will delete the copy as you say.

I will delete the reference to Holne Vicarage having been the birth place of Charles Kingsley, as you also recommend.

Best wishes,

Hugh

Hugh Loxdale Hugh David Loxdale (talk) 09:01, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Dear Editor,

Another thought: I wish to retain the Duke family history as stated in the present abridged text because this is, I believe, pertinent to why Hugh Victor Duke grew up as he did in India and why he became a soldier before WW2, as his father William had been in WW1 and why the family subsequently lived in Holne, because (and I agree it is weird!) his father William then took Holy Orders and became Vicar at Holne on Dartmoor and the family lived in the Vicarage there.

Best wishes,

Hugh Hugh David Loxdale (talk) 09:23, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Hugh

AfC notification: Draft:Hugh Victor Duke has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Hugh Victor Duke. Thanks! Fiddle  Faddle  14:35, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

re-sent to Timtrent on 30th June, 2020

Dear Editor,

I have done all the things you have asked me to do. I have removed the majority of the italicized text, as you suggested. I have only left the italicized account published in 'The Western Morning News' for Friday, November 5, 1943, because this is the only written account I have seen as to why he received the Bar to the Military Cross. All the things I state are verifiable in the published literature, as you require. (I will send yo a pdf of this notice).

In light of this, I very much trust that the article is now acceptable for publication online. If not, please tell me where we are with this planned Wikipedia entry and what further changes you require so that we can, as one of my scientific colleagues used to say when we were writing papers together "finally put this baby to bed."

Again, many thanks for your help and advice.

With best wishes,

Hugh

Hugh Loxdale Hugh David Loxdale (talk) 08:58, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

June 2020
Hello, I'm JaventheAlderick. I noticed that you recently removed content from Hugh Loxdale without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. JaventheAldericky (talk) 14:50, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

Managing a conflict of interest
Hello, Hugh David Loxdale. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about in the page Hugh Loxdale, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:


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In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Paid-contribution disclosure.

Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. Theroadislong (talk) 15:01, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

Dear Editor,

Re: 'Hugh Loxdale' website

I am not sure it can be - or is even actually true - that Wikipedia biographical pages about living persons are always that 'disinterested' or indeed are not written about the person concerned by the person concerned. This is simply because these pages often contain a wealth of personal, sometimes genealogical information, that cannot be readily supplied by an outsider, so require input from the person described in the website entry or by their 'nearest and dearest'..or friends....or if they are rich and famous, via their Agent with their strict say-so as to what is included.....or not as the case may be. So I would argue that impartiality and disinterest is largely a myth, although the concept of course is a very good one...in theory. I note that many pop stars, for example, have reams of stuff written about their private lives, including love life, and 'stardom' on Wikipedia, which only they surely know about.

Anyway, as for myself, I have been in the field of Entomology for 50 years as a professional entomologist, and am pretty well-known in that field I guess, as my various awards and honours attest. The said website about me was originally begun by the Royal Entomological Society, but for sure, I have added relevant information as appropriate. The website has been online for at least two years and no one has ever complained to me me about anything said on the site. On the contrary, I have received very favourable reports about the website (e.g. by fellow UK entomologist, Dr Ray Cannon). All the scientific papers I cite, not all with me as author or co-author I hasten to add, are fully referenced and available online as pdf files (i.e. Researchgate). You can certainly ask people to contribute to the Wiki site about me by all means, but no one can provide as much relevant factual information about the science covered than me, I suspect. I am very happy if they can and do.

I wanted to take down the whole site and leave only the opening paragraph, and with External Links only. But my wife insists that I discuss this issue with you first. I am happy to abridge/amend the Early life and career and Genealogy sections. As it is I have cut the Personal life section to one sentence, as if I haven't had a personal life..or am not allowed one!

Please tell me how we can progress this matter. Your notice at the beginning of the site will, I very much doubt, encourage anyone to amend the text ...because I am one of the acknowledged world experts in the areas I describe, and anything that colleagues might wish to say to me on these particular topics has been said, either at national and international conferences, or when the scientific paper/s as cited have been formally reviewed by the journals in question. All the scientific papers have my contact details on the first page, usually under the Abstract.

I realize the possibility of 'conflicts of interest', but which and who am I conflicting with exactly? I am 70 in a few months' time, long retired, and am no longer active in the field of entomology, except for recently finishing writing a few papers with colleagues.

I insist please that whatever happens, the website is not left 'dangling in the air' (so to speak) and any problems are resolved to our mutual satisfaction in a timely and professional fashion.

With many thanks and best wishes,

Hugh Loxdale (Prof.)

Hugh David Loxdale (talk) 10:06, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

Multiple accounts
You were told previously that in general it is not permitted to use multiple accounts for editing, and you said that you would not do so, but you appear still to be using both this account and User:Loxdale. This must stop, or else both accounts are liable to be blocked. --David Biddulph (talk) 12:35, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Hugh Victor Duke
Draft:Hugh Victor Duke has not been submitted for review. In my opinion if submitted it will be declined, as I see no content and no citations that establish that Hugh Victor Duke meets Wikipedia's concept of notability. David notMD (talk) 02:28, 15 July 2020 (UTC)