User talk:Hughesdarren/Archive 4

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Brilliant
Adding trove assisted history of bins is just great! thank you very much...

just a pity - the grain pool and pre 1930s grain stuff hasnt really been dealt well with yet sats 02:53, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

I was going to message you to see if you had any material on the grain pool of WA (pre-CBH days) to see if we had enough to make an article out of. Maybe one for the future? Hughesdarren (talk) 03:09, 6 April 2013 (UTC)


 * heaps http://trove.nla.gov.au/result?q=grain+pool+of+western - I was listening to two old guys just last week hearing how they used to lift bags almost as heavy as themselves :(   sats 03:21, 6 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Like the Western Australian Farmers Federation labyrinthian history - the early stages of the CBH, Grain Pool and various farmers groups all need clear separate articles (or good summaries of the shenannagians as illustrated in the time line at the Western Australian Farmers Federation article).

Anything of any sort that you can do to help with anything to do with it all is appreciated - it sure is a lot more complex than first meets the eye - even trying to look at a cbh site in the wheatbelt without any textual help - the range of structures, types and possible variations - is not straight forward.

Thank you for whatever you can do! sats 04:30, 6 April 2013 (UTC)


 * brilliant again - thank you so much for getting the wheat pool article done! sats 03:53, 13 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Cheers - nice work on the cbh and grain storage stuff too. wheat pool art sill has pleanty of holes, still wading through on Trove to fill them. Hughesdarren (talk) 04:59, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Yeeda Station
I've copy-edited Yeeda Station. Some of the punctuation was such that I couldn't be sure of your intended meaning - I've done my best, but you should check it. There's a reasonable possibility that my changes, while grammatically correct, don't convey the meaning that you had intended. Mitch Ames (talk) 13:09, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your efforts, looks good. Hughesdarren (talk) 02:27, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Nullarbor article
Looks very much like something the state of the goldfields water supply article has been in for about 5 years now - great potential, a mess and probably a lot of hard work to fix up to a good standard - are you interested in sharing some off wiki info to see what we can dop to build either up at all? just an idea (like many others...) btw well done for the dyks on the station articles! sats 14:23, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, Just had a bit of a fiddle with the nullarbor article, nothing serious. Have about another dozen station articles to keep me going for a while, but thanks for the offer. Hughesdarren (talk) 01:31, 4 May 2013 (UTC)


 * fine - i suppose really this was as much as a reminder to self that the nullarbor article needs lot of work - the station material is great!! sats 02:38, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Your request for rollback
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Cripes
you deserve the years old t shirts still waiting to be sent to you, and barnstars and medals and all the rest... FYI https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wiki_Takes_Western_Australian_Wheatbelt_Railways_2013 - in process... satusuro 13:08, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi there, railway thing looks good. Thanks for your words and keep up the good work too. Hughesdarren (talk) 09:49, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
 * i am very very sorry about the years long promise.. satusuro 05:14, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
 * at my work today I found the WAGR annual report for 1932 which identified the first 5 sidings by which the whole cbh system started - however I started removing the link to cbh as cbh didnt start until a year or so later - it was really wesfarmers and or the wheat pool that was the official name against the start of the system, sorry if i didnt do it very well - but now that i have found the details of the 5 i have put the info in a number of arts - cheers satusuro 09:57, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Nice find, no worries, hope all is well...Hughesdarren (talk) 10:19, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
 * The Shire of Merredin was today advised by Brookfield (who run the grain freight rails) that they will be closing the Quairading & Trayning lines at the end of this month. The remainder of the tier 3 lines will stay open over harvest but no firm decision on their future is to be expected until early next year from facebook. satusuro 12:09, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

Bushfires in Australia
Hello Hughesdarren

Just wanted to ask about your revert and edit. Specifically, if the one death is a typo? I have added a source for the 'Warrumbungle'/ Coonabarabran fire, but there is no mention of any deaths. 220  of  Borg 13:31, 22 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Fixed, must have missed the 1 when I copied the line of table code for Warrumbungle. Cheers Hughesdarren (talk) 22:16, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks. :-) That page needs some work, and I think some notable bushfires need articles written. At the very least each event listed should have a source if it has no page of its own. 220  of  Borg 18:15, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

(Possibly) FYI (?)
I've been working on Sortable list of islands of Western Australia. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 12:38, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, I saw, very nice work. I've found a few more too add from reference #17, which I'll get onto on the next few days. Hughesdarren (talk) 12:52, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

satusuro 13:40, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Howdy. It seems our mutual friend didn't like my choice of name for a category for islands off the Goldfields-Esperence coast. FYI - I have no barrow to push - I just want a complete set of categories into which I can plonk each of the 1,000+ islands. If you have a look at my talk page, you'll see that he's got a few extra things on his mind at the moment. If/when he or you or both of you can come up with a set of categories, I happy to use them. In the interim, I'm in limbo. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 10:59, 5 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Howdy, I don't have strong opinion on the names of any categories either but would be happy to work with whatever everyone else is happy with. The regions of WA seem like a logical choice to me, unless there are other suggestions. Hughesdarren (talk) 11:57, 5 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Actually it is a less of my problem as whether there is any interest in Integrated_Marine_and_Coastal_Regionalisation_of_Australia being ignored or tied in ... satusuro 12:03, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Where to discuss a (complete) set of categories?

 * Could a discussion be started somewhere? As I said I'm happy with whatever the consensus is. Hughesdarren (talk) 12:12, 5 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Good idea! Where?
 * My preference is Category talk:Islands of Western Australia,  particulary  given that these categories will be subordinate to Category:Islands of Western Australia, AND that Category:Islands of Western Australia already contains:
 * Islands of the Gascoyne (Western Australia)
 * Islands of the Goldfields-Esperance region (Western Australia)
 * Islands of the Great Southern (Western Australia)
 * Islands of the Kimberley (Western Australia)
 * Islands of the Mid West (Western Australia)
 * Islands of the Perth region (Western Australia)
 * Islands of the Pilbara (Western Australia)
 * Islands of the South West (Western Australia)‎
 * i.e. It already contains "Island" entries for 8 of the 10 "Regions of Western Australia"
 * (i.e. I'm soliciting your opinion of my opinion/suggestion.)
 * Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 13:33, 5 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Moved to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Western Australia for ideas. Hughesdarren (talk) 22:45, 5 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Another good idea! Thanks, Pdfpdf (talk) 12:07, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

Billabalong Station
Ref 8 is currently empty... Also, there is some state hertiage info here - Evad37 (talk) 04:56, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

fixed + cheers Hughesdarren (talk) 05:09, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Kimberley Downs
Hello! Your submission of Kimberley Downs at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 23:39, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

me again
Happy new year, great seeing your new edits -
 * what do you say we create a category on the porongorups/ and one for the stirlings?
 * could you have a look at my mess of the Mount Augustus separation of the alledged mon-whatsit and the park..
 * anyways keep up the good work - all the best for the new year satusuro 04:20, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Happy New Year and Merry Xmas to you too.
 * Would there be enough material to put in each category?
 * The Mt Augustus article looks great.
 * Thanks, you too. Hughesdarren (talk) 04:35, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
 * the stirling and porongorup idea was to try to get some more arts as well...
 * what about a mount augustus station article as well?... hint hint... satusuro 01:35, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
 * ✅ hint taken Hughesdarren (talk) 22:58, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

melangata
have we ever had an on wiki or off wiki conversation about the melangata station (south of meka, and adjacent to dalgaranga and north of yalgoo) ? I think it is worth a try if we havent discussed it... satusuro 12:21, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi there, I don't think so but will look into it after I finish Boolaloo. Hot enough for you up there? Hughesdarren (talk) 12:31, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
 * have started the stub - I used to stay at melangata many years ago, the breezeway that hawes designed was a favourite spot for the big snakes... i really like his interest in towers, there are rumours on a very scattered grapevine the current owners have had the chapel collapse and the tower might have been repaired ok - as for the cbd i was wandering the cbd the same time the choppers and the coppers were wandering the route i take to get to the archives... apart from that its all chinese blessing - uninteresting... meka, and dalgaranga are much larger and more colourful with their histories i think. and the heat there (melangata), hahaha makes perth cbd like a mediterranean paradise - if not a bit more albany or augusta like... satusuro 12:43, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your help... appreciate it. I suspect the history of the earlier parts is well worth exploring as well as the heritage statement has quite a lot of info as well... satusuro 23:18, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
 * any chance of one of your mahgical location maps and info boxes? satusuro 00:12, 23 January 2014 (UTC)


 * I just logged back in to do that...Hughesdarren (talk) 00:21, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you for that satusuro 00:39, 23 January 2014 (UTC)


 * wow - some more yalgoo station work (Meka) - great work... - do you have access to info that designates which pastoral leases the DEC/DPAW more or less resumed to be let go back to 'reserve status'? I think at least 5 in the Murchison/Yalgoo area in the last 20 years have had that done... any knowledge of that at all?   The locals were bad tempered about it as it involved no maintenance of wells/etc and the claims were that some wildlife had grown dependant on the sources for survival  satusuro 08:58, 25 January 2014 (UTC)


 * There was plenty of mentions of Meka when I was looking for stuff for Melangata, so it was pretty easy to put together (although not yet completed). As for resumption I haven't been able to find anything. I had looked online for any list of current pastoral leases and the only one that seems to exist is the one that you put on Wikipedia.Hughesdarren (talk) 09:22, 25 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Re resumption - I think there must be something somewhere - the era of my visits to the area was in the early 2000s when the local stations were making out of goat catching and selling on to the guys exporting (think long since gone as a viable business) - oh well... As for the pastoral lease list issue - have been in contact about 2 years ago with people who had lists of earlier era pastoral lease names and sizes - it makes the sorting of what was what and what became what a small headache, then about 2 years ago sold my large portraits of station owners in 1920s to a former archaeologist who works for one of the very big mining companies - and his life (then) was involved in buying and sealing pastoral leases to facilitate the mining companies activities .... no longer in contact with him though satusuro 09:34, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK
Hi, would you mind if I nominated Minderoo Station for DYK, which would hopefully result in it appearing on the main page? Thanks, Mat  ty. 007 18:21, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Not at all, thanks for offering to do so. Hughesdarren (talk) 08:33, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Nominated here, I hope it will get through. Thanks, Mat  ty  .  007  17:37, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

iinet
My wife and I made the poor decision to change internet service providers to iinet recently. Unfortunately iinet seem to be particularly disinterested in providing any actual service and as a result we have been without the internet for the past 3 weeks and will now probably have to wait until at least the 21st of this month, assuming they comply with the telecommunication ombudsman order. Hopefully will be editing sometime again soon, wishing you all the best. Hughesdarren (talk) 10:56, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Only took 1 month and 5 days before iinet finally got Telstra around to check our line and find the fault. It only took them 5 minutes, outstanding work iinet, we only suggested you do this about 3 weeks ago. Hughesdarren (talk) 11:07, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

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North longitude?
I notice in a lot of articles you edited, you specified that the longitude coordinate of a point was in the north direction (when you meant east), which is incorrect and causes errors. I've been fixing them as I've seen them pop up, but it will take a while for them to all get categorized. If you know of any other articles where this is like this, can you fix them? Thanks, Jackmcbarn (talk) 00:53, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi Jack, I'm not too sure how I managed to get those ones wrong but will keep my eye out for any articles with the same mistake. Cheers Hughesdarren (talk) 05:55, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

List of pastoral leases in Western Australia
Hello. I see you edited a lot List of pastoral leases in Western Australia. Would you be interested in creating similar pages with lists of pastoral leases for each state? I am not sure where to find those lists though. Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 11:28, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

Satusuro created the page, I merely added links to the station article. I've been unable to find the information to create the lists you are interested in. Regards Hughesdarren (talk) 12:06, 4 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Removed large and variegated response - to make lists as such is a pointless exercise unless adequate distinction is made as to identify the various jursidictions variations in management of rangelands. To make lists of stations per se might seem an innocent enough exercise for simple wikipedia say, but if a responsible wikipedia article about rangeland management or pastoral leases in different jurisdictions in Australia, a more thorough approach is required with adequate backup from official sources. satusuro 15:06, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
 * What's wrong with a list of stations in each state, as long as we can find sources for it?Zigzig20s (talk) 15:52, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Not sure what you are looking at - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Pastoral_leases_in_Australia already exists - you dont need sources for what is there.... satusuro 09:44, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
 * wow - what a mess of a set of categories and lack of work - Australian agriculture is clearly not a priority for any editors... satusuro 10:56, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Also List of ranches and stations, and you are right, thousands of editors spend countless hours updating the lastest film stars/pop bands/TV shows while forgetting what keeps us fed...Hughesdarren (talk) 11:13, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
 * despite that, the quality of articles that i have checked recently is crap Agatha Christie and a few music articles of divergent groups have more issues than you could poke a stick at. satusuro 12:02, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
 * It would seen the articles would suit the target audience then, See you also have a bit of interest in Sid Kidman lately, good story don't you think? Do you reckon it might be worth inserting a table of the stations he owned into the article itself or is the template down the bottom sufficient? Hughesdarren (talk) 12:09, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I think a table would be good if it had a sense of a timeline as well - the duration of ownership/the stretch of ownership/who owned next sort of stuff would increase the dimension of the article if possible. satusuro 13:51, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

Deletion discussion about Merna Mora
Hello, Hughesdarren,

I wanted to let you know that there's a discussion about whether Merna Mora should be deleted. Your comments are welcome at Articles for deletion/Merna Mora.

If you're new to the process, articles for deletion is a group discussion (not a vote!) that usually lasts seven days. If you need it, there is a guide on how to contribute. Last but not least, you are highly encouraged to continue improving the article; just be sure not to remove the tag about the deletion nomination from the top.

Thanks, Djcheburashka (talk) 02:55, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

the company or the other stations?
Not sure what info is available on the Mt Amhurst, Beefwood Park and Shamrock Stations - or whether better to do an art on Liveringa Station beef... re the latest edit at Moola Bulla... satusuro 10:20, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Edit request for Sophie Hunter page
Hello! Can I ask a favor, please? Regarding Sophie Hunter's page, in her infobox J. E. B. Seely, 1st Baron Mottistone is listed as her "maternal great-great-grandfather", if you double-check the source, Seely is actually only his "maternal great-grandfather". In her Background (Family) section, it also lists Seeley as "great-great-grandfather", can you please be so kind and remove the extra "great" to make it accurate? And describing Seeley as "World War I hero" can be considered fluffing and violates neutral point-of-view. The page should plainly describe him as a politician. Thank you very much for your consideration! Keep up the good work here on Wiki! 59.152.169.240 (talk) 11:15, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Looks like it's already been done.... Regards Hughesdarren (talk) 14:48, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi
You made an edit at Wellshot Station. Can you take a look at Eric Ronald Inglis and see if it can be condensed, merged into Wellshot Station. Thanks.E.M.Gregory (talk) 15:45, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi, the merge isn't going to work, even a condensed version of the Inglis article wouldn't give much information on the station history. The Inglis article, while well written, fails on notability and looks to be headed toward deletion. Cheers anyway Hughesdarren (talk) 21:56, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

YGM
satusuro 10:52, 30 March 2015 (UTC)