User talk:Hullaballoo Wolfowitz/Archive 14

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 * The above notice isn't mine but I'm letting you know you are at 3 reverts on Casey Calvert too. I am disturbed by the original research you are carrying out with regards to degrees at University of Florida simply because the exact title of the major isn't used or given. If the OFFICIAL school paper informally refers to her degree concentration, this should not be a reason to disqualify as unreliable. This a ridiculous tact for you to take. Further if she says she named herself after a specific professor with that specific last name, she most probably did and just because you feel it's scandalous to his reputation is not a reason to outright remove the mention. You could have just removed his name! Morbidthoughts (talk) 06:53, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Aberwyvern castle
Aberwyvern castle has been prodded. The article has no footnotes but it contains significant content about this fictional castle in David Macaulay's award-winning book Castle, so I was going to suggest merging this into the book article, but then I saw that last year you had reverted such a redirect. So before I went further I wanted to ask you the reasons for your objection and to see if you had another suggestion. Thanks. --Arxiloxos (talk) 23:57, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Native American mascot controversy
Your critique of Native American mascot controversy would be appreciated. It appears very bloated and not per Wikipedia guidelines to me, but the individual who claims to have contributed 80% of the content (and probably did) thinks otherwise and is resisting some needed trimming. A thoughtful analysis by an experienced and neutral editor or two may convince the contributor to trim the article or accept revisions by others.Sandcherry (talk) 01:54, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletions
I agree I was overzealous on the speedy deletion notices. However, you also removed a large number of other flags-- both added by me and predating my edit-- which were very much necessary (notability, refimprove, etc.) I'll need to put those back in. If you'd like to assist, I am specifically targeting articles that have been flagged as orphans since 2009 or earlier. Interlaker (talk) 16:57, 2 July 2015 (UTC) Interlaker (talk) 16:57, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 * HW, I suppose removing the speedy was valid, but the other tags were valid too., see Articles for deletion/Jean Lee (reporter). Thanks to both, Drmies (talk) 17:09, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 * No, you're quite wrong about the tags. One claimed the article "relies too much on references to primary sources", which is dead wrong -- the tag was applied in 2007 and should have been removed in 2009 when the primary sourcing was removed. The other claimed the text was "written like a résumé", even though it was straightforward prose describing the article subject's major reporting jobs. Once again, the tag was initially applied years ago, the problem was resolved by subsequent editing, and the tag was obsolete. I'm certainly puzzled by this comment, and why you grudgingly "suppose removing the speedy was valid"; the rationale for the speedy was "because it has relied on primary sources sine 2007 and has been flagged as written like a resume since 2009", which bears no relationship to any valid criterion for speedy deletion, and would be inadequate grounds for standard deletion, not to mention the fact that the tags were plainly inaccurate. Interlaker spent a good deal of time yesterday placing uniformly invalid, out-of-process speedy tags on dozens of articles; I put a good deal of effort into cleaning up the mess Interlaker created, and you respond by hassling me over a quite minor point that on simple checking is seen to be demonstrably wrong. I know it's a hobby among one faction of the administrative corps to hassled The Big Bad Wolfowitz, but in matters like this it just damages the encyclopedia. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 17:42, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Wow. That's a complete misreading of the tone and content of my comment, but I wouldn't want to stand in the way of a good conspiracy. Have a great day. Drmies (talk) 20:20, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, if you had a rational explanation for complaining about my removal of obsolete and clearly invalid tags, it would be nice if you provided it. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 20:43, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 * As far as the article on Jean Lee (reporter) goes, I disagree about your removal of the resume tag. However, I won't fight you on that. In order to clear up any confusion for anyone else, however, I took the step of removing any unsourced material from the article. Several lines of material had been flagged as lacking citations since 2008, and I was well within my rights to remove them. Again, I agree that I was overzealous with the speedy deletion notices. At the same time, I believe it pays off to err on the side of caution-- all it takes is one Jar'Edo Wens article to undermine Wikipedia far more than a few misplaced speedy deletion notices ever could. I've been editing since 2006 and it pains me to see "citation needed" flags that go back almost to when I started, without the unsourced information having been removed in the intervening time. At any rate, as I mentioned before I've been targeting older articles flagged as orphans. If you'd like to join me in removing unsourced material, and adding (or as the case may be sometimes, removing) flags, then I'll welcome your participation. Interlaker (talk) 23:29, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

My talk page
Why isn't it allowed? How is it a violation? Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 02:13, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Because our policy on nonfree content provides that nonfree content cannot be used outside articlespace. See WP:NFCC#9.

July 2015
Hello, I'm Seagull123. I noticed that you recently removed some content from Alyssa Miller without explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; I restored the removed content. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. ''Section blanking is not very helpful, even if it is "gossipmongering". Thanks.''  Seagull123  Φ  13:30, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

Recent edit to user draft: Thank you.
Thank you for your recent editing comment regarding your change to the draft template I've been working on. I'm still learning all the complexities and peculiarities of Wikipedia editing so your message about WP:NFCC and usage outside the article namespace was helpful. I had to spend some time sorting it out though because your edit was a deletion of File:MLmadridlogotipo.png which (according to what I found on the file page) isn't actually listed as NFCC. Assuming WP:GOODFAITH though, I did find some other changes to be made based on your comments so I'll be reverting and editing appropriate to your guidance. As far as I can tell, the proper WP:EQ (I'm still learning this too) is to provide appropriate notice here. Hope I'm doing this right. N8 21:37, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Kathy Hilton
Hi there, just wondered why you deleted the credits I added on Kathy's she did appear in those credits... And also the year she retired from acting was 1979 not 74 Cullen1987 (talk) 22:00, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

John B. Thomas
FYI this article has already been deleted twice, which is why I tagged it so quickly. Still, if you want to give them another chance, that's fine. Agtx (talk) 01:49, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

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July 2015
IT TAKES TWO TO TANGO!

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war&#32; according to the reverts you have made on Pablo Picasso. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement. Please be particularly aware that Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states: If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing....Modernist (talk) 16:23, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
 * 1) Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made.
 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

This is as clear case of routine enforcement of WP:NFCC#1 as one could ask for, and your edit summary accusation of "VANDALISM" is hard to see as indicating that you are disputing this in good faith. Your interpretation of WP:NFCC#1 is Absolutely wrong...Modernist (talk) 16:23, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi
I'm sorry I didn't know Saturn star (talk) 03:22, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Michael Richards
Hello. I'd like to discuss to you about the Michael Richards "Personal life" section. It appears that you have deleted the information concerning his relationship with Ann Talman because you claim it is gossip. I have created a section in regards to Ann Talman on the article's talk page and I'd like to invite you to join the discussion.Hitcher vs. Candyman (talk) 23:05, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Fair use
I did not know that the cover image of the book may not be used in the portal. Can you guide me to the policy related to it? Mhhossein (talk) 13:35, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
 * WP:NFCC#9, which generally prohibits the use of nonfree images outside articlespace. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 13:56, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

NFCC
I suggest you contact the uploader of the images that you find the material not "fair use" as each image is directly and specifically connected to the MITSFS. In fact, the first such image for Astounding was made by the MITSFS with the direct permission and encouragement of the magazine's publisher . I tend to oppose indiscriminate "fair use" but suggest you graciously reconsider your opinion here, indeed. I was fortunate enough to have met Mr. Gernsback, who gave over $1,000 to the organization (IIRC he gave a Gestetner to the club - and later one of the Gestetners, as an MIT student, was a member as well). And I would love to have the alternating left and right placement restored - it makes the page look better even on iPhones. Cheers. Collect (talk) 14:27, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Rockteem Bhattacharjee (Actor)‎
Please take a look at the Talk page of the article - there was a recent AfD and this repost has exactly the same issues.Peter Rehse (talk) 12:33, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Please read WP:G4 more carefully. It states that G4 does not apply to a page "which was deleted via proposed deletion or speedy deletion". The action you cite was a prior speedy deletion, which supersedes the pending AFD. If the reason for the prior speedy deletion still applies, that tag should be applied -- not G4. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 12:40, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Ah so just for my clarification. The article was speedy deleted and the closed AfD reflected that rather than AfD consensus.Peter Rehse (talk) 12:56, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
 * That's right on target. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 13:40, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

Emeraude Toubia
Hello, this is a comment about this edit. I added those two sources (the gossip magazine People en Español and Billboard) because I was trying to establish notability for her (outside of her being a random beauty pageant contest in the United States and an actress on Spanish-language television shows and commercials). The user who started her Wikipedia article did not include *any* sources, and I had never heard of Emeraude Toubia before coming across her Wiki article, so I just googled and added all of the news articles that mentioned her name, including those two sources. Not for gossip purposes. Just fyi. 12.180.133.18 (talk) 03:04, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

BAMIL (Musician)
FYI: Re your decline of the G4 speedy: The nominator indeed failed to link to a previous AfD, but on the article talk page I had linked to Articles for deletion/Bamil Gutierrez Collado, a more recent AfD (from 2014) than the one you had apparently found (Articles for deletion/Bamil) from 2009. I don't know if this affects your assessment, but I wanted to be sure you had seen all of the relevant info. Thank you for your time. -- Finngall  talk  15:52, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
 * It's still not G4-eligible, because it includes a referenced claim of an award in 2015, which means it's not substantially identical to the deleted version for two reasons. I know it's hard to drive the stake through the heart of lousy articles like this, but it's often the case that standard deletion processes are required. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 15:59, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, no worries there. But on further review, the article is a direct copypaste from his bio on his Reverbnation site, so I've tagged it as a copyvio.  Yes, this type of thing is frustrating, but irrespective of the persistent efforts of the article creator(s), the guy isn't miles away from the notability standard, so I suppose we just have to be open to reassessment within reason.  -- Finngall   talk  17:14, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Demi Lovato
In my recent edit, you said "Wikipedia is not a celebrity hookup history". Of course it is because I wrote it in her personal life part. I haven't add it back again because I think we need to talk about it first. (Bistymings (talk) 01:05, 1 August 2015 (UTC))

Articles for deletion/Martha Quest
Hi Hullaballoo Wolfowitz, I have just commented/recommended keep on the above afd. I appreciate the sentiments you gave in the discussion but hope my suggestion of a WP:TEA is okay.

Coolabahapple (talk) 14:12, 2 August 2015 (UTC) 
 * I think you need more than a cup of tea. Maybe you should take a break; I'm worried about your stress level. Either way, I want to remind you that Wikipedia:Civility|civility]] is a part of Wikipedia's code of conduct. Maybe you're better at I am at finding references; maybe you're more patient with un-referenced material. But there's absolutely no reason to go ad homenim. Behavior like yours makes people shy about contributing to the encyclopedia, and that hurts everyone. -- Mikeblas (talk) 01:43, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I think not. Pointing out that you didn't bother to check Google Scholar in looking for sources on the work one of the most distinguished female authors of the twentieth century isn't an "ad homenim" (sic) attack; it's pointing out your failure to comply with WP:BEFORE and related aspects of deletion practice. And not for the first time. See, for example, Articles for deletion/The Flying Saucers Are Real, Articles for deletion/The Summer King, Articles for deletion/Jedi Quest, Articles for deletion/Cold Days, Articles for deletion/Vector Prime. Nominating articles for deletion without making competent attempts to assess the subjects' notability is disruptive, and you should expect to be called out for doing it repeatedly. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 02:20, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

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Why did you reverted my changes?
Hey! Hullaballoo Wolfowitz, Hope you are doing well, I request you kindly don't revert my edits into this Template:Sindh Uni Alumni, because it adds more beauty and relevance after adding a relevant image of the user box. I hope you better understand and will avoid such illogical reverts. Thanks.--Jogi don (talk) 03:37, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
 * No. WP:NFC and WP:NFCC, which incorporate policy, strictly prohibit the display of nonfree images in templates, whatever the aesthetic value may be. Whenever you display a nonfree image outside articlespace, the use is automatically flagged for review and presumptive removal. As you've likely noticed by now, another user has already removed the noncompliant use. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 14:52, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

speedy decline of Mariam gabunia
Hi Could you explain why it does not fit into the WP:A11. See : Talk:Mariam gabunia and User:Ketrin doulse. Thanks! Peppy Paneer (talk) 21:15, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Because A11 does not apply to real people, and I cannot fathom how anyone could think it does. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 21:19, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
 * haha...fine..I understood that it does not apply in this case ...I read WP:A11 and Credible claim of significance...but where is it explicitly mention that it does not apply for real people (king of Mars) ? Peppy Paneer (talk) 22:27, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Jumping in - that's because that's what WP:A7 is for. Garchy (talk) 22:49, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
 * ... ...got it! Peppy Paneer (talk) 20:06, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

Arun Honnedevasthana Shamrao
I hadn't seen the previous CSD, sorry for adding a second. I can see significance, but I don't think it will pass notability muster so I've added an XFD, in case you want to add your thoughts: Articles for deletion/Arun Honnedevasthana Shamrao Thanks! Garchy (talk) 21:24, 6 August 2015 (UTC) (P.S., I "thanked" you for your last edit on this talk page because I thought you had a perfect/funny reply about WP A11.)

Your edit on Lucio Battisti (album)
Hi, I'm writing to you because of your edit at Lucio Battisti (album). Thanks for the contribution but I think you should have discussed before making an edit that -if unnoticed- could have permanently destroyed somebody's else work. With that said, the article had a small part of "relevant commentary": it was exactly the part you removed - the audio files' captions, that contained the only bit of music-related information in the article. It is certainly little, but the entire article is a stub, and to me it's no surprise that a 2-line article (track listing apart) has a short commentary. The article will grow and so will the audio files commentary. Cheers, -- Una giornata uggiosa '94 ·   So, what do you want to talk about?  10:44, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
 * No. The use rationale for each file stated "It illustrates an educational article that specifically discusses the song from which this sample was taken. The section of music used is discussed in the article in relation to the song's lyrics, musical and vocal style". Three of the five captions included no substantive commentary whatever, and therefore were not used consistently with their rationales. The other two captions included superficial, unsourced commentary which itself called for removal as original research; and the content was so insubstantial that they could not support use under NFCC#8. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 16:36, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

Use of non-free images on User Pages.
How does one determine that an image is "non-free", and should not be used on User Pages? Thanks. --- Professor JR (talk) 18:50, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
 * The simplest answer is that is the image file is hosted on Wikipedia Commons, it should be OK; if it's hosted elsewhere, it's probably not. When you look at the image's File page (which you reach by clicking on the image), the page will either say (in a line underneath the image) "This is a file from the Wikimedia Commons" or "Non-free media information and use rationale". The former indicates the file is free (public domain or appropriately licensed for use); the latter indicates it isn't. A relatively small percentage of the off-Commons files are also free, and don't carry the "nonfree media information" line, but those need to be checked carefully. For book covers, the general rule is that pre-1923 covers are safe to use; later covers may not be. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 19:24, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

Thank you so much, as I've long been confused on this score. That is really helpful information, and it was generous of you to take the time to so thoroughly explain it. Thanks again. --- Professor JR (talk) 09:29, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

Talkback
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Buck Adams
What's the blp violation here? It's not the name. He's dead, so the BLP issue can't be about him. I cannot find anything in the ref that's derogatory about anyone. I know and respect your work so I won't revert but I'm genuinely baffled. What am I missing? David in DC (talk) 16:21, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
 * It's a BLP violation with regard to the boxer, who appears to be a different, presumably living person with a similar, common name. The boxer is described as a resident of Corpus Christi, TX, the porn performer as a resident of CA. The porn star's bios generally state he was a boxer before entering porn in 1984, but that date is more or less the midpoint in the boxer's career. The boxer had bouts all over the US and even one in Italy, which I'd expect would have resulted in some hype about being nationally/internationally known, but I haven't even spotted one source not based on the Wikipedia article that even describes him as a "professional" boxer. There's at least one other boxer named Charles Allen who's a boxer in the same time frame, whose last fight is in 1983, which is a better fit, but he's described as based in Chicago. I just don't see enough evidence to connect that boxer with the porn performer, despite the similar names. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 16:57, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. David in DC (talk) 17:06, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

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To clarify...
...I mean you should start a section saying why it is original research. I see sources, although I cannot immediately verify many of them. There are issues with the added text, but I don't think reverting them with one edit summary and without even notifying the user responsible for adding the text is not helpful. While it is important that editors be aware of the policies and guidelines of Wikipedia, I think editor retention is also important. The editor is not being neutral? Point out what is wrong, and don't be vague and go without saying the why. If you had completely reverted the edit but taken a moment to explain on the article's talk page or Bouldergeist's talk page, I might have been alright. I just don't think you went about it in the best way. If you disagree with me in some way, I respect that, but again, I think you should be more specific in pointing out the problem. Thanks. Dustin ( talk ) 18:49, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

By the way, I added tags to the article based on what you said in your edit summary. I don't get where the original research you speak of is, no I neglected to add an OR tag. Dustin ( talk ) 18:51, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

SubtropicalMan at ANI
Hi, I asked in thread about more history, diffs, etc. to document more actionable interference. I wanted to ask you here more directly, do you intend to provide more solid background information in the proposal for the topic ban? If you need a few days that's fine, but I am concerned that it's a fairly severe sanction and I'm just not seeing actionable disruption in the thread or what I saw spending a while looking at the behavior in logs and histories. Thanks. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 18:51, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

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Dead Sea 1618
Hi, I would disagree that Dead Sea 1618 makes any credible claim of importance. Why did you remove the tag? Westroopnerd (talk) 19:39, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Because putting an A7 tag on a new article approximately one minute after an inexperienced editor has written just a single sentence is abysmally rude, stupis, and a violation of WP:BITE. The comments you wrote on your talk page on this point also indicate you don't properly understand the difference between "notability" and "significance", which is a lower standard. If a subject is "potentially notable", depending on the sourcing, there's a claim of significance sufficient to survive A7. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 19:49, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

"blithering idiot and/or probable sock at work"
I notice that you recently reverted one of my edits with that summary. What the HELL is that supposed to mean? Westroopnerd (talk) 20:02, 16 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi Hullaballoo. You have been here 9 years. You know not to call other editors "blithering idiot". It does not matter if they are an established editor or even a drive by troll. We don't allow personal attacks here. I don't think any action is required in response to this other than a friendly note to please not let it become a pattern. While I rejected the CSD request I can see where the user was coming from, what little assertion of notability there is is weak at best. Chillum 20:13, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Please stop trolling my contributions
I've still received no reply from you about calling me a "blithering idiot", so can you now stop taking CSD templates off of pages that in no way have a place on Wikipedia? Thanks. Westroopnerd (talk) 21:49, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
 * No. You do not appear to me to be a good faith editor. You have repeatedly placed inappropriate speedy tags on just-created articles from new users, without giving them any reasonable opportunity to finish writing the articles. Nominating articles for speedy deletion one minute after their creator's first edit is abusive, shows a lack of WP:COMPETENCE, shows a lack of reasonable civility, and grossly violates WP:BITE. Even though your account was registered barely 24 hours ago, you are plainly not a new editor; your user page makes claims about their past editing, so you are not making a clean start. You therefore appear to be a bad-hand account renewing misconduct about which you were warned or sanctioned, and I suspect your account should be blocked. I note you make attempt to substantively justify your misbehaviour. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 21:59, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Speedy Removal
Can, in the future, you give some reason when removing speedy deletion tags I've put up? Deniz Orhun had absolutely no indication of importance (and it was past the 10-15 minute recommended threshold), yet you removed it, calling it "disruptive" with no further explanation. Care to explain? Westroopnerd (talk) 22:37, 16 August 2015 (UTC)


 * It was eminently clear that the Deniz Orhun article was not a legitimate A7 candidate, and marking it that way shows, at best, a marked lack of WP:COMPETENCE, and probably worse. The article (apparently accurately) identifies as a television presenter on a notable national broadcaster. The identification is appropriately sourced. Your claim that this is "absolutely no indication of importance" is bereft of sensibility and logic, and once again shows you have no business making deletion nominations. And I plainly did not call this particular nomination "disruptive", although in retrospect I certainly should have. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 22:49, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. Considering you appear to loathe every aspect of my existence on Wikipedia, you might want to reconsider saying that I have no business making deletion nominations, considering the only ones that have been failed were removed by you. Westroopnerd (talk) 22:52, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't believe that. I expect that your prior account contains ample examples of prior misbehaviour, And I'm already sick of your incessant innuendo. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 22:55, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
 * If you're so concerned about that, why don't you check the account itself? User:Revolution1221 Westroopnerd (talk) 23:00, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

nonfree image may not be displayed in template
Why not? is there policy for that somewhere? ; if there is then revert also BMW and maybe other templates -- >Typ932 T&middot;C 20:43, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
 * WP:NFCC #9. The image in the BMW template is considered a free image as it is too simple to receive copyright protection. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 21:10, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Jason Statham
Hey, I'm not trying to get into an edit war or content dispute over the relationship of Jason Statham, but the content is sourced and the couple still appear to be together as of late July, 2015(at least). I am bringing this here on your Talk page because I don't even think this needs a Talk page discussion on the Article Talk page, but if you insist, I will discuss it there with you. I will provide more sources, but I think that's not really necessary unless there is a change in the status. Thanks. Dave Dial (talk) 03:53, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Revert
Your changes (remove images from article) has been reverted, according to the Wikipedia:CYCLE: discuss and consensus first. English Wikipedia allows the use nonfree images. Also, these images are relevant to the content of the article and can be helpful (WP:NFCC #8). Your change is controversial and even if you have any argument, it may be debatable and even as you have a different opinion - this is debatable and must to be discuss first. If any changes are controversial and debatable, I have the right to undo changes and new changes can be made after gaining a consensus. Please stop edit warring, discuss and consensus first - according to the Wikipedia:CYCLE. Subtropical -man  talk   (en-2)   20:58, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
 * No. WP:CYCLE (better known as WP:BRD is an essay. WP:NFCC is policy, and it forbids the use of replaceable nonfree images. That you believe the images meet NFCC#8 is irrelevant; even if they do (and that's debatable), they fail other criteria and therefore can't be used. No discussion is required for their removsal. Restoring such images without consensus that all NFCC criteria are met is disruptive editing, and its repetition is likely to result in blocking. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 21:17, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
 * No, you wrong. These images meets WP:NFCC, please see description of photos . As I wrote earlier, your change is controversial and debatable, must to be discuss before changes. Please stop disruptive editing, its repetition is likely to result in blocking. Subtropical -man   talk   (en-2)   21:30, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
 * No, you're, as usual, completely wrong. Read the descriptions yourself. Nogt even the image uploaders claimed the images weren't replaceable. You've been warned enough. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 21:38, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Mandingo (actor)
Stop removing sourced content from ym articles! In Mandingo (actor) you removed a whole sourced content (In popular culture, Penis size). It's annoying stop it! --Croxx036 (talk) 09:24, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
 * If you think that's annoying, wait until you're blocked for repeatedly inserting content with reliable sources into BLPs. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 14:09, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
 * So you think New York Post is not reliable? WTF even that newspaper reported about the size of Mandingo's penis. --Croxx036 (talk) 14:28, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Since that's a source I left in the BLP, any reasonable, competent editor would infer I deemed it sufficiently reliable. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 14:32, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Seriously you deserve to be blocked for revoming sourced concent from many pornographic articles. --Croxx036 (talk) 14:37, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
 * WP:BLP requires the use of "high quality" reliable sources. If you won't accept that, you shouldn't be editing BLPs here. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 14:43, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

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Removing info
why are you vandalising a page and removing sponsor references without proof person is no longer sponsored. Also removing key info that is hugely relevant in NZ
 * Because WP:BLP applies to all biographies. No "proof" is required to remove long-unsourced statements. Reliable sourcing is required to support content. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 02:23, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

Johnny Sins
Why don't you noninate this article for deletion. If pail the porn bio'c citera lol --Croxx036 (talk) 12:17, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

Talkback
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Niccolò Turinetto
Hello, I duly respect your view. But you can not decline speedy on behavioral guidelines, you should consider wikipedia policies first. By removing A7 tag you assert that this article indicates importance and credible claims of significance, which it doesn't. I am not going to take it to Afd or re-nominate it but you should think a little. Regards. Hitro  talk  21:42, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Don't be a jerk. Speedying an article less than one minute after a new user had written only a single sentence is abominable misbehavior. I suggest you review discussions like Articles for deletion/Dead Sea 1618 to see that your position is just plain wrong. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 21:57, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Are you out of your mind? What has he written? It's not about a distant planet. You expect sources on that. You are an awesome optimistic. If somebody is acting jerk between me and you then it's not me. Read the article. He wrote most probably about himself and he found you The Saviour. A reporter, photographer, video maker, YouTube, dj and blogger. born in 1998 who created luxury and beautiful things like supercars while studying economics. Lol :p. Let it hang for 7 days, you'll be happy. Dead Sea 1618 had references from Day 1 and even your edit summary says it claims importance, it certainly does. Why didn't you write same edit summary here when declining speedy? Happy Editing. Regards.  Hitro   talk  22:22, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

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Normally, if an article is in the process of creation, I would not tag it for deletion. But a quick search shows that there is no competition called the "Friendly Cup" at the level that would involve that selection of top-tier football clubs. The article is likely a hoax, but it is clearly an article that provides insufficient context to ascertain what the author is writing about. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 20:40, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Katherine Kelly/ Rylan Clark
They are married, you didn't need to change the names of their spouses. Littlerhelper101 (talk) 19:26, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Ryan Clark and Rylan Clark are two different people. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 19:30, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I was sure that when I typed in google 'Katherine Kelly husband' it came up with 'Rylan Clark' also, I am sure that I watched an interview with Clark and he stated that he was bisexual, not gay. I will try to find evidence to back this up.

Speedy decline at Naseebo Lal
This is the version as it existed after I reverted the POV cruft that was added this morning. Over 5000 bytes of unsourced fancruft was added today. Would you do me the favor of looking at it again, and reconsidering? Not a huge deal one way or another, but unsourced additions by a single fan do not an article make...  Scr ★ pIron IV 17:27, 4 September 2015 (UTC)


 * The article says the subject performed on the soundtrack of multiple notable films. That's enough to survive A7, despite the ghastly prose. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 17:30, 4 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the response. If there are no objections, I will consider AfD - assuming that would be a reasonable course of action.  Scr ★ pIron IV 17:50, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

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 * Complain, complain, complain. I've reviewed your contributions and you never have anything nice to say about anyone. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 15:30, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

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Edit warring on Bristol Palin
Please note that BLP allows you to remove unsourced information. Please do not delete well referenced information like you did here and here w/o discussion. This is not about trivia - the subject of the biography took a position on a politiical controversy. Thank you. Victor Victoria (talk) 15:23, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Go away, troll. Using Wikipedia in order to shame women whose views you disagree with is grossly unacceptable. The internet is replete with places where you can indulge your misogyny. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 15:48, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

Re: Deletion of deletion tag
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File:Clement Davies c1955.jpg
You have persistently deleted this image erronously from the article United Kingdom general election, 1955.
 * You first deleted it saying "obviously fails NFCC#8". NFCC#8 is about contextual significance and the image clearly provides contextual significance to the article. I re-instated the image, saying this.
 * You then deleted it again adding "not even a use rationale". You overlooked the fact that the image had a use rationale. I re-instated the image, saying this.
 * Despite this, you again deleted the image, claiming the rationale was not valid, stating "nonfree image may not be used for identification outside the subject's biography". I re-instated the image, saying the use rationale was valid, saying nonfree image may be used for identification outside the subject's biography.
 * You have now chosen to delete the image again, claiming an unspecified NFCC violation. Earlier you claimed that non-free images can not be used in articles that are not biographies. There is nothing in NFCC policy that remotely suggests that this is the case.
 * It seems to me as if you didn't bother to read the file's summary, deleted it by mistake, and when challenged, invented bogus reasons to support your errornous actions rather than apologise and move on. Your most recent actions show that you have learned nothing in the interim. I would urge you to follow wikipedia policies in future. Graemp (talk) 17:14, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
 * It seems to me that you have no interest in complying with NFC policy, and prefer to cast aspersions on editors who enforce it. You provide no support for your claim that "nonfree image may be used for identification outside the subject's biography", because it is wholly unsupported by the governing policy and guidelines. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 17:18, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia NFCC policy is key and I have checked and there is nothing in policy that backs up your claim of improper use. I suggest you avoid compounding mistakes re-read policy. Graemp (talk) 17:22, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
 * You need to find provisions of NFCC policy/guidelines which permit the use. There are myriad ways to fail the NFCC, far too many to be listed in the detail you insist on. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 18:04, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
 * You specifically claim that non-free images can only be used in biographical articles, if such a specific claim were true, then there would be a specific mention of this in policy but there isn't even a hint suggesting what you claim is true. Graemp (talk) 18:25, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
 * That wasn't my claim. I pointed out that the standard rationale you used was limited to biographical articles, and that mutilating its text so that it no longer reflected policy. When you uploaded the image you said it was "for visual identification of the person in question, at the top of his/her biographical article". It's not being used for that, and you still provide no other policy-based rationale for its use. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 18:30, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
 * The image was uploaded using the wizard, which was designed to assist editors not familiar with the process. The wizard provides a form of words to assist with WP:NFCC#8. These words are not cast in stone and any form of words can be used. Many editors don't even use the wizard and write their own non-free use rationale from scratch using Template:Non-free use rationale. I prefer to use the wizard and then amended it to properly reflect the image's use. You regard this as mutilation, I call it complying with WP:NFCC#8. Graemp (talk) 19:07, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
 * That's deceptive nonsense. You uploaded an image with a rationale for use in one article and changed it to a different article only after yout screwup was pointed out. And you still haven't cited anything in NFC policy to justify your claim that just because a person is mentioned in article a nonfree image may be used. There isn't any policy support for that. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 20:21, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

"Rationale contradicted by cursory Google search as well"?
Hello there!

A few hours ago, you undid my efforts to merge the articles KDEX-AM and KDEX-FM, but I'm struggling to understand your reasoning. My attempt to merge these two pages is based on the following motivation:


 * The pages are nearly identical, i. e. these are two different pages for one and the same radio network. The only difference is that one is for their AM frequency and the other one is for their FM frequency, although they broadcast the same content on both frequencies. This is, to all appearances, unwanted data redundancy, isn't it?
 * Both of them share the same callsign named KDEX in the FCC's AM/FM databases (compare over here for AM and here for FM).

Therefore, I tried to have KDEX-FM removed, so that KDEX-AM could be moved to KDEX and be edited accordingly to accommodate for the FM frequency band as well.

Could you please elaborate on what I did wrong at my attempt to merge these two pages? Thanks a lot!

Cheers, subsonic17 02:24, 13 September 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Subsonic17 (talk • contribs)


 * Well, to begin with, the fact that they currently broadcast the same content right now doesn't establish that they always have. or that they have a common history. If they were once independent operations, but later came under common ownership, merger of the articles probably wouldn't be appropriate. I think you need to establish much more than current common operations to justify merging the two articles. At the very least. talk page discussions are needed, and at the conclusion of the process, the superfluous articles would ordinarily not be deleted, but merely redirected. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 21:05, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

Stop vandalizing "CMNF" article
STOP unjustified wholesale deletion of text. Unsourced material is not taboo. I tell you that and you delete the text again saying once again that it's unsourced, but it doesn't matter.

I am not a Wikipedia editor. Therefore I do not know where to complain about your actions. Can you please tell me where can I complain about yours, as I see it, vandalism? (I'm entitled to my opinion, and I call what you do vandalism).

Please provide a LINK to a page where I can complain to encyclopedia authorities about your behavior.

Also stop using slang words like "SYNTH" in your description of your deletions. I am a good-faith visitor, not a regular editor, and I shouldn't be required to know your slang. I suspect that you use it to alienate non-regular editors. Don't forget that this is "ENCYCLOPEDIA ANYONE CAN EDIT". 95.28.219.174 (talk) 19:10, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
 * But this is not the "encyclopedia where anyone can edit without regard to its content policies and guidelines". Given the number of times over the last two years IPs and SPAs have added back this material after its removal by experienced editors, in particular the linkspam in External links section, it's hard to take your claim of being a "good-faith visitor" seriously. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 19:53, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Don't forget a link to a page where I can complain to authorities about your vandalism. 95.28.219.174 (talk) 19:17, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Unsourced content is a scourge to editors. Anyone who claims not to be a Wikipedia editor, and does not want to learn our policies and practices, should be left out in the cold when they add unsourced content.  "The encyclopedia that anyone can edit" makes for a good slogan, but a lousy encyclopedia.  For me, I would be happy to see IP's restricted to pending revisions, permanently.  Let them edit - but with oversight. It would stick to the principle, but make fighting vandalism and SPA's a whole lot easier.  Scr ★ pIron IV 20:54, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
 * "The encyclopedia that anyone can edit" makes for a good slogan, but a lousy encyclopedia." - WOW. Thankfully, it's not for you to decide. "Unsourced content is a scourge to editors." - EDITORS are a scourge for content that happily was there for 5-6 years and didn't offend no one but EDITORS. "Anyone who claims not to be a Wikipedia editor, and does not want to learn our policies and practices, should be left out in the cold" - wow again. THIS IS SO AGAINST OFFICIAL POLICIES. I will report you also. Since cowardly you and cowardly Wolfowitz decided not to ANSWER MY DIRECT QUESTION WHERE I CAN COMPLAIN, THUS REFUSING ME A LINE OF COMMUNICATION WITH AUTHORITIES, I will find it myself. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents right? 95.28.219.174 (talk) 10:09, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I am reporting you two. Ambox notice.svg There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved.   Thank you. 95.28.219.174 (talk) 10:35, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
 * No there's not. Perhaps the IP came to their senses and realized the likely boomerang effect such a report would have?-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 17:00, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Not YET. There's no rush. Read how scary the "boomerang effect" is to me right here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ScrapIronIV#Please_help_with_vandalism I'm just taking my time. I need to put all their violations together - like denying the line of communication with authorities, publicly denouncing Wikipedia policies, bad faith mass-deletions etc. Also I'm male, so you can stop applying the wrong pronoun to me if you're educationally able™ (as if everyone with a nickname is gender-identifiable by their nick, like you, for example. Definitely not you, "Ponyo"). It's just my courtesy to give Balloo and Scrap time to prepare.
 * HEY COWARDS! (THIS MEANS Hullaballoo AND ScrapIron) YOUR CURRENT RESPONSE TO MY "Don't forget a link to a page where I can complain to authorities" BULLET-POINT IS, FOR SOME REASON, "Unsourced content is a scourge to editors". HOW ABOUT A REAL ANSWER? DO YOU AGREE IT SHOULD GO TO https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents or maybe posting at another section of Admins' noticeboard will have maximum effect and speedier discussion? THIS IS YOUR LAST CHANCE TO PROVE YOU'RE NOT COWARDLY WEAKLINGS. STEP FORWARD AND SAY "I'M SURE WHAT I DONE IS RIGHT. I'M NOT AFRAID TO BE SCRUTINIZED". 95.28.219.174 (talk) 13:37, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
 * There's gonna be a boomerang, alright. GABHello! 13:39, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't care, I haven't got a Wiki nickname and my IP is dynamic. Duh. 95.28.219.174 (talk) 13:45, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

The image is used at Karachi Dolphins So Iam using it on this user box too
The image is used at Karachi Dolphins So Iam using it on this user box too KArachi Dolphins. Kindly restore the image on this user box,--Jogi 007 (talk) 07:49, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
 * No. Just because a nonfree image is used appropriately in a particular article does not mean it is free for use elsewhere. Wikipedia policy governing use of nonfree images, in particular WP:NFCC#9, prohibits the use of nonfree image outside articles and articlespace. In particular, nonfree images may not be displayed in userspace. Since userboxes are only placed in userspace, they may not include nonfree images. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 14:15, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Mike Tyson
I left a comment about your recent edit at Talk:Mike Tyson. 86.181.32.66 (talk) 20:01, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

An apology
After making some rude and sarcastic remarks against you, I must apologize for it – sarcasm and ignorance make the editing environment toxic, and I did just exactly that Thanks for taking the time to rebut my close; your premises were valid and I just completely, improperly, and, without a single ounce of decorum of my own, ignored them. Esquivalience t 01:10, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

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Inaugural Playboy Nude Centerfolds
I'm not sure if a secondary source can be found, but some research is necessary. kencf0618 (talk) 04:10, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

Declined speedy
Hi Wolfy, I see you declined the CSD G4 nomination of Ladma. Of course as a non-admin I can't see the deleted article, but the Saltzman1959 comment at Articles for deletion/Ladma sure does make it sound like it's the same "small comedy collective." Did you want to reconsider? The Dissident Aggressor 18:46, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Who did you get angry recently
Feel free to look at the two early edits on 2015-10-25 in Special:Contributions/122.169.49.188. Walter Görlitz (talk) 00:42, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Somebody who's been trying to get Mihir Shah deleted for the last month or so. Probably something to do with local or academic politics. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 13:23, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

Flute Solo
Hi; I wonder if you could explain your decision to remove the piece by Brecht, since it has direct relevance to the text, having been mentioned specifically and used to illustrate his work as a good example of the art he's most famous for. I believe it has the right copyright label, and certainly falls within fair use. Best, Franciselliott (talk) 00:46, 27 October 2015 (UTC)


 * First of all, it consists entirely of an image of text. It is, to say the least, rather difficult to maintain that a depiction of text "could not be conveyed in words", as the use rationale states. Second, even if you do not accept the principle in general, in this specific case the piece can be adequately expressed in text. Cage's 4′33″ accomplishes the task without using a nonfree file, and the same can be done here. I wouldn't deny that this falls within "fair use", but meeting fair use requirements isn't sufficient to satisfy the requirements of WP:NFC and WP:NFCC. The WMF has set a very high bar limiting the use of nonfree content; the en-wiki standard is "Non-free content is used only if its presence would significantly increase readers' understanding of the article topic, and its omission would be detrimental to that understanding". That's a much more restrictive standard than fair use. "Merely" being an excellent illustration isn't enough to meet it. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 03:14, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

new user name
You said that LB's harasser is working under a new user name. Is that something you know he is actually doing or is that just conjecture? Gaijin42 (talk) 18:48, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I said he's allowed to edit under a new username, since no sanctions were placed on him, and he had said he was considering returning under a different name. There's at least one shady account created since he left that shares some of his behaviours, but they aren't terribly distinctive and are clumsier than I'd have expected. Given the way that the anti-outing policy is being more tightly enforced these days, and that he exposed his own real-life identity on-wiki, I really can't be much more specific. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 19:03, 28 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Per WP:CLEANSTART "If you attempt a clean start, but are recognized, you will be held accountable for your actions under both the old and new accounts." and "However, if an editor uses their new account to resume editing articles or topics in the same manner that resulted in harassment or a negative reputation in the first place (becoming involved in disputes, edit warring or other forms of disruptive editing), the editor will probably be recognized and connected to the old account. ". If linking two accounts is risking outing (due to one of the accounts previously being outed) CLEANSTART/SOCK pages should probably clarify that.


 * In any case, I understand your point, but your point presumes the answer to a question - that we know LB's harrasser. I personally agree that there was sufficient evidence, but the functionaries did not. You can't complain about the punishment, when they are stopped on the identification. One of the "not sufficiently proven" voices last time was Thydruulf who said something about if the identity had been considered conclusive enough there would almost definitely have been a site ban.
 * Gaijin42 (talk) 19:11, 28 October 2015 (UTC)


 * One other comment, "even though that opportunity was denied to Lightbreather". Lightbreather's own foibles led to her sanctions. Her foibles do not justify the harassment, but neither does the harassment absolve her missteps. Had she been found blameless, I'm sure she would have been allowed (and taken) a clean start, but even her strongest defender in the committee (GW) found her at fault in numerous areas. Conflating the harassment with her own actions does nobody a service, not LB, and not greater womankind either. Gaijin42 (talk) 19:19, 28 October 2015 (UTC)


 * There was an episode of on-wiki harassment, paralleling the comment directed at Malik Shabazz. There is no question whose account posted the comment involved. No action was taken. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 19:36, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure which comment/editor you are referring to then. Was it brought up during the case? Was it used in any of the findings? Gaijin42 (talk) 21:13, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
 * It was not mentioned, and apparently ignored, during the case. It occurred during the case (via edit summary). Lightbreather did complain to an admin about it, who sloughed it off. I don't know if she raised it directly with ArbComm. Since I'm not allowed to point it out directly, I'll draw this parallel . Very much like the comment directed at Malik Shabazz, a barb not so likely to be noticed if you weren't its target, but here there was no possibility it was inadvertent. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 21:43, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Well, Not being able to see the precise edit in question, its difficult to say for sure, but assuming it was something on par with the book you just linked to : I could certainly see someone being trouted over that, or used as additional evidence to weigh in against someone as a pattern of behavior, but it seems unlikely to draw severe or lengthy sanction on its own. Gaijin42 (talk) 22:51, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

And now its moot! Gaijin42 (talk) 13:58, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Indeed. A promising start to my day. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 14:27, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

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Taking Down Pictures
Hullaballoo: please explain to me, in plain english - not Wikipedia speak - the several circumstances under which an image can be used on wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:151D:87:21E3:E02A:68:1BD7 (talk) 15:57, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

Hullaballoo: please read the following from the Wikipedia policy page which allows me to use this cover art:  Images[edit] Shortcut: WP:NFCI Some non-free images may be used on Wikipedia, providing they meet both the legal criteria for fair use, and Wikipedia's own guidelines for non-free content. Non-free images that reasonably could be replaced by free content images are not suitable for Wikipedia. All non-free images must meet each non-free content criterion; failure to meet those overrides any acceptable allowance here. The following list is not exhaustive but contains the most common cases where non-free images may be used and is subject to the restrictions listed below at unacceptable use of images, notably §7 which forbids the use of press agency images when the image itself is not the subject of commentary.

Cover art: Cover art from various items, for visual identification only in the context of critical commentary of that item (not for identification without critical commentary).[1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:151D:87:21E3:E02A:68:1BD7 (talk) 16:16, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
 * You've answered your own question: not for identification without critical commentary. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 16:47, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

Are you going to be civil and help me or are you not going to be helpful? well, it seems all i have to do to make you happy is include "critical commentary". Would you then leave this page alone?


 * It's not civil for you to demand I drop everything I'm doing to "help" you haven't made yourself familiar with the basic WP guidelines. The general rule is that you can't use album covers to illustrate discographies, including lists of albums. See WP:NFLISTS and WP:NFC#2. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 17:03, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

Hullabaloo: it is NOT civil to insinuate that i "demanded" anything. I merely asked a question: are you going to be civil? ...and helpful. I guess i have my answer. Please note that I have included a section consisting of CRITICAL COMMENTARY near the end of the article. Because the article now contains Critical Commentary - per wikipedia rules - i have now replaced all of the pictures. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zarembo (talk • contribs) 17:11, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

Okay Mr. Hullaballo: even though the page now contains Critical Commentary, it seems you would like to harass me and purposefully damages this page. If you do not cease in your destructive behavior I will have no choice but to report you to the admins and request that you be blocked from Wikipedia. Again. I will give you 24 hours before I report you to the wikipedia admins. Please reconsider your harassment. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zarembo (talk • contribs) 17:18, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

Mr. Hullaballoo: a further indication of your wanton disregard for Wikipedia rules is that policy states conflicts are supposed to be DISCUSSED on the relevant TALK pages - not to immediately harass and bully and editor with repeated undos... you NEVER engaged in a discussion on the relevant TALK page. I have now requested that you be blocked. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zarembo (talk • contribs) 17:59, 29 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Should I infer from the contradiction between your two previous comments that you are dishonest, or that you do not understand the difference between 24 hours and 24 minutes? The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 18:02, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo): please understand that I accelerated my request to block you because, (a) your overly aggressive tactics, (b) your failure to discuss the issues on my and the pages talk page as clearly provided by wikipedia BRD guidelines, and (c) because you continued to persist in damaging the wikipedia article in question. Your persistent actions actions caused me to change my actions. As you 'handle" suggests, you see yourself as a wikipedia bully and your actions in this latest controversy is consistent with you tactics of bullying other editors. Bullying tactics are prohibited by wikipedia... please refer to wikipedia policies. Zarembo (talk) 18:56, 29 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Zarembo, let me jump in here to let you know that pursuing this will in no way lead to a block for Hullaballoo Wolfowitz. I wouldn't say the same for you, however, as you are on the wrong side of policy here. No administrator is going to block an editor for removing images due to legitimate copyright concerns. Edit-warring to restore them however is another story. At this point you need to follow dispute resolution; using ALL CAPS and throwing around accusations of "bullying" when another editor advises you of your errors will not give you the end result you seek.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 19:32, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

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Fiorina
Why is it an nfcc violation?Anythingyouwant (talk) 00:31, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Replaceable nonfree image in BLP. Not even a shred of relevant sourced commentary. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 01:33, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Next time, I think you ought to refer specifically to what Parts of NFCC you're relying upon. Also, given the ongoing discussion at the talk page, why not participate at talk?  If you’re referring to NFCC #1, there is no free equivalent showing her participation in this event.  If you’re referring to NFCC #8, this non-free content significantly increases readers' understanding of the article topic, given that the image accompanies a sentence of text that says: "On September 3, 2008, Fiorina addressed the Republican National Convention."  Does the image become acceptable in your opinion if I add a footnote to that sentence?Anythingyouwant (talk) 01:52, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
 * No. Your argument here has nothing to do do with our NFC standards. The text is perfectly sufficient and requires no visual "support". The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 02:01, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I specifically referred to the specific criteria at Non-free content criteria and specifically asked you to specifically identity which of those specific criteria you are relying upon. I give up.  Have a nice day.Anythingyouwant (talk) 02:06, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

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