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My Reward
I think i deserve an original barnstar for creation that i made for you. You can send me one if don'mind... Please!

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 * Ya, surely. I was anyway going to give you barnstar. I will give you barnstar plus one non-veg dish. -- Human 3015   Send WikiLove   05:39, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Watch This
But you need to create your new Userboxes first, before these templates.

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For Userboxes
Use this method e.g {usbk|Template:Mariteada} {usbk|Template:Virdabha}

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Always there 4U!

Today it's you and tomorrow will be InI. Thanks

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Yakub Memon Death Time
Many of the indian news channels have asserted 6:30 am of 30th July, 2015 of IST as the hanging execution time of criminal Yakub Memon so what about 5:00 am? Dongar Kathorekar (talk) 01:53, 30 July 2015 (UTC) Dongar Kathorekar (talk) 01:53, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I have given source of NDTV. They said 5 AM, we are writing on initial reports. -- Human 3015   Send WikiLove   01:55, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Yeah.Buddy, NDTV has asserted it but many news channels have declared 6:30 am as the exact time. Can we wait till Devendra Fadnavis makes an official rather formal declaration of the criminal's execution of death. Dongar Kathorekar (talk) 01:59, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
 * It is obviously not 6:30, it is in between 5am to 5:30 am. India news TV said 5:20 am. Traditionally hanging is done before sunrise. -- Human 3015   Send WikiLove   02:04, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Don't call him criminal, he is not criminal, he is a terrorist, there is a difference in two terms. Anyway, today its his birhday too, and I wished him "happy birthday" in my edit summary. -- Human 3015   Send WikiLove   02:15, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Um., he is a criminal because he was found guilty of horrendous crimes... Ogress smash! 02:31, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Anyway, whoever he was, he is died now. RIP/HBD Yakub. -- Human 3015   Send WikiLove   02:36, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

"Inhuman and unconscionable", The Hindu Ogress smash! 02:45, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
 * This is not forum, but just to tell you, those people who oppose death penalty of terrorists should not demand for justice when someday their own family members will die in any bomb blast. -- Human 3015   Send WikiLove   02:52, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Buddy Human3015, You have a kind and generous nature for every wikipedia visitor, editor but heinous crime-doers and culprits don't deserve it. Anyways have a good day! :D Dongar Kathorekar (talk) 02:59, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I misunderstood your position and was trying to extend an olive branch to you that I wasn't trying to be overly critical of you in regards to his death. Ogress smash! 03:09, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Buddy Ogress, Your response to this seems to be a clear indication of neutrality principle on wiki. Dongar Kathorekar (talk) 03:21, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

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Advice
Word of advice, please wait at least 10 minutes while patrolling after article creation so that you do not interfere with the person working on the article. The note clearly said that work was being done on the page, and now have to rewrite entire description due to the page being edited before I could save. A "no citation" tag was unnecessary on a 10 minute old article. K-39_(Kansas_highway) Thank you.

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 * Hey don't worry, I didn't nominate it for deletion, I just added relevant tags. Instead I have added one quick category to remove tag of "uncategorized". You better use template of on article instead of writing it in edit summary. Try it. I will add that template to article. From next time you can use this template. Cheers.-- Human 3015   Send WikiLove    22:02, 1 August 2015 (UTC)


 * I guess I wasn't aware of that template, will use it in the future, thank you. GTSinc (talk) 22:09, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Annisette Koppel
Annisette Koppel could you take a look again, hope there are enough sources --Zoizit (talk) 22:13, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
 * If you have added more sources then simply remove the tag yourself. Thanks . -- Human 3015   Send WikiLove   22:17, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
 * i did add more sources and External links IMDB + the film database danskefilm.dk --Zoizit (talk) 22:21, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Hey, you don't take tension that your article will get deleted. You can see article of another female Danish singer Grethe Ingmann. As of now this article does not have single source, still this article is existing on Wikipedia since 2004. At least your article cite many sources. So don't worry. Cheers. -- Human 3015   Send WikiLove   22:29, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Thomas Harrison
You added the following tag to the Thomas Harrison (minister) article that was posted:

"This article is written like a personal reflection or opinion essay that states the Wikipedia editor's particular feelings about a topic, rather than the opinions of experts. Please help improve it by rewriting it in an encyclopedic style. (August 2015)"

Of course, I agree that there are many ways to improve the article. However, what has been posted is a "stub" - meaning a start for others to work on. Because the entry was taken almost verbatim from the PUBLIC DOMAIN source DICTIONARY OF NATIONAL BIOGRAPHY, you just accused the DNB of being a "personal reflection or opinion essay that states the Wikipedia editor's particular feelings about a topic."

There are hundreds of articles on wikipedia that are almost verbatim from DNB. I would suggest that you find a different way to state that improvements need to be made other than this particular tag -- simply because it is inappropriate.

You can view the WIKISOURCE here: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Harrison,_Thomas_(fl.1658)_(DNB00)

I am not going to get into an argument here. My experience has been that wikipedia editors rarely contribute any real content themselves -- instead they just fuss over many details regarding the contributions of others which is a complete turn off to potential contributors.

So if you want to politely indicate that improvements can be made that is wonderful. But please choose a more appropriate tag. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Watkec (talk • contribs) 23:23, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

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Sarte
Hello Human3015, will you be so kind to delete above headline because this was wrong. I edited a new with Sartè. Thanks and regards -- Sweepy (talk) 10:03, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
 * What exactly you want? Sarte redirect to Jean-Paul Sartre and I see nothing wrong in it. Your created Sartè should also be redirected to Jean-Paul Sartre because Jean-Paul Sartre is particularly very famous and great philosopher. -- Human 3015   Send WikiLove   10:42, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I saw, that my deleted redirect vom Sarte to Sartre is reverted. Before only the headline was seeing. Why is it so, because on the Sartre-site is nothing note of Sarte? Regards -- Sweepy (talk) 12:20, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

Moves over redirects
With regard to Desi daru, note that you could have performed this move yourself rather than blanking and CSD-tagging it, since it was previously a single-revision redirect pointing at the page you wanted to move over it. Jackmcbarn (talk) 04:00, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I didn't know about that single revision fact. Thanks for moving page. Cheers. -- Human 3015   Send WikiLove   04:36, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Tukaram
Thanks for the thanks; appreciated. Joshua Jonathan  -  Let's talk!   16:20, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks again. Cheers. -- Human 3015   Send WikiLove   16:26, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia_talk:Noticeboard_for_India-related_topics#Temples
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user vandalism
please see the contribs of ip 115.186.146.225 who is continuosly adding wrong infoformations to articles and he always write anti-Pashtuns. He is also using sock puppets to spread wrong info. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.108.128.167 (talk) 14:11, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes I saw his contribution, he has done some good edits, I reverted his one unexplained edit regarding population of Pashtuns. But you should add sourced info regarding relevant topic. I have kept his edited pages on my watchlist. -- Human 3015   Send WikiLove   14:26, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Question about neutrality
I would advise you to immediately remove any question of a breach of neutrality from your posts. I have never edited the page, the area within WP, or anything on the topic. It is casting WP:ASPERSIONS. AlbinoFerret 16:08, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Hello, please don't take it personally. I have made general statements, I have also claimed that my neutrality is also questioned. I used that word for those who are not admins because admin get vote of 100-200 people so we can't question their neutrality much. As far as WP:ASPERSIONS is concerned, I have gave explanation, we have not got mandate of community, our neutrality can always be questioned if we close controversial discussions. And it doesn't matters if you edited that topic earlier or not. Till now I have edited 3000+ pages on Wikipedia, there are millions of other pages I have not touched, so it doesn't mean that I don't have any pre-fixed opinion regarding those pages or topics which I have not edited. Please don't get hurt, my points are just part of procedure. -- Human 3015   Send WikiLove   16:28, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
 * They are not just part of procedure, they are questions about the neutrality of a closer. I suggest you remove/retract them. AlbinoFerret  16:32, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
 * At most I can say at this point is, if you think that I have done "personal attack" on you then you can raise this issue at WP:ANI or you can complain about me at talk page of any admin. As far as my stand is concern, I'm still firm on stand that, non-admins should not close controversial RfCs specially when result of discussion will be "Rough consensus or not clear consensus". I have no personal issue with you, all statements made by me are generalized statements. Thank you. Cheers. -- Human 3015   Send WikiLove   16:52, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Violence against Muslims cleanup
Greetings. I really appreciate your efforts to cleanup that page, because it is an important one in need of attention. However, I think you've gone a little too far in a few places, and so I've had to revert some of your edits (not all). In particular, removing cited information cannot be classified as copy-editing; you might even be accused of using misleading edit summaries, although I do not think that was your intent. Also, if you are tagging sourced info, you need to provide a reason. Is the source unreliable? Is it misrepresented? Finally, the POV tag at the top should only be used if there is a dispute about the content that remained unresolved, or if there is an issue you cannot fix. It is not a badge of shame, to place on an article you don't like. You definitely should start a talk page discussion before tagging the page, so I've removed the tag for now. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me. Regards, Vanamonde93 (talk) 04:45, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
 * , you better keep this discussion on talk page. You have to state where I gave "misleading edit summary"? Don't do blind accusations on others. Don't act like WP:OWNER of article. Thank you. -- Human 3015   Send WikiLove   04:50, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Don't be obstreperous, I'm trying to work with you here. I clearly said that I did not think that was your intention, but since you demand an example, with this edit you removed cited information, and your edit summary was "ce." Copy-editing is the removal of grammatical, syntactical, and structural errors. Regardless of whether the citation was accurate, that edit was not copy-editing. And because I am discussing your behavior, and not the content, this is the correct place to post. If you wish to discuss the article's contents, then we can do so on the article talk. Vanamonde93 (talk) 04:55, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Replied on talk page. -- Human 3015   Send WikiLove   05:07, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

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Your revert
On 2014–15 India–Pakistan border skirmishes is not justified. I knew it beforehand thus had explained it in my edit-summary. I am contributing to that article even before you registered. I know this does not entitle me to do unilateral changes but you should try to get to the simple point. These skirmishes are not new, they have caused immense life damage + injuries. We have not included injuries right from the "very beginning". I would give examples of the recent cases, when on August 4, two Pakistanis were killed and according to the reference, six were injured, we did not include "even those injured in the article" ". Latest example, when a woman was "critically injured" on 9 August, still we did not include it till today when she succumbed to the wounds. Regards. Faizan (talk) 16:59, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi, It doesn't matters since when you are contributing to that article, and I see no logic behind ignoring "injured". That article is about skirmishes, not about deaths. We should mention any kind of skirmish whenever it happens. If Pakistan army or Indian army violates ceasefire and they injure some 100 civilians without any death then according to your logic we should not write that skirmish here. We must write all kind of skirmish. It doesn't matters how many people die or injured. The other incidences you mentioned should have been included too. There is no proper rationale behind why we should not include injured people. It is just your personal opinion. Thank you. -- Human 3015   Send WikiLove    21:32, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I myself added those "injured" but I will not pursue another edit-war that you started there. Cheers. Faizan (talk) 18:53, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
 * If you want we can discuss this at talk page of the article. But it is quite clear issue, if either Indian army or Pakistan army violates ceasefire then it should be mentioned in that article. Rationale that "no one got killed in that violation, only some people got injured so no need to mention that violation" is not correct here. This applies to both sides. Article is about skirmishes/ceasefire violations.-- Human 3015   Send WikiLove   19:06, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Tourism in Nepal
You can improve that article. -- Aero  Slicer  07:00, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, I will surely improve article Tourism in Nepal. I'm interested in this project. But backlog of India related tourism article is very much. Still I will give preference to Nepal because India-Nepal have free border specially for religious tourism and both countries are dependent on each other for religious tourism either it is related to Hinduism or Buddhism. So I will look for this article. Cheers. -- Human 3015   Send WikiLove   09:01, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

Mirpuri
It would be better if you don't make unsourced changes to text like you did at British Pakistanis, replacing the term Mirpuri even in places where the sources don't say so. I've already found two instances where the source quoted Kashmiri. I'll go through the rest and make further changes where the broader term Kashmiri is used.  Mar4d  ( talk ) 07:01, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I have started discussion on talk. Don't write blindly "Kashmiris" everywhere. Sources saying it as "Mirpuris". And whenever they reffered "Kashmir heritage" they have used word "Pakistani and Kashmiri heritage". They have differentiated it. -- Human 3015   Send WikiLove   07:12, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I agree to the point that in fact, the Mirpuris are "Kashmiris". I am looking at the article's history and may comment on relevant discussion boards. Faizan (talk) 18:55, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

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Dadu Konddeo
This is a second request to provide reliable references to say that  Ji is an honorific in the spelling of Dadoji otherwise I will have revert the article name to the original Dadoji. Afterall, historic sources all the way from James Grant Duff to Jadunath Sarkar refer to him as Dadaji! Thanks. Jonathansammy (talk) 20:35, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

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 * Thanks, differences or rifts between India and Pakistan is different thing and it may not resolve for long time but at least we should respect our history that both nations were 'one entity' for thousands of years. -- Human 3015   Send WikiLove   04:42, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Dadoji Konddeo
Yes, please. Changing to Dado would be a start. That does not mean you have provided enough reliable sources. Even the Shivaji letter you quote is from a website and not from a peer reviewed journal or a well known historian. Pagdi is the only one who has merit. I, on the other hand, have given you far more reliable references. Since you are involved with WikiProject Maharashtra, please also clean up honorifics from the titles of other names such as Santaji Ghorpade, Tanaji Malusare, Netaji Palkar, Kanhoji Angre, Jijabai (remove bai)  Mahadaji Shinde,Yashwantrao Holkar,Yashwantrao Chavan (remove rao)  and I can go on and on. I wish you well in this noble cause. Thanks.Jonathansammy (talk) 21:13, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Agree about Dadu Konddeo. But regarding the others, are there reliable sources that use the shorter names without honorifics? Some honorifics essentially become part of the name over time, and we can't remove them. - Kautilya3 (talk) 14:19, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 34, 2015)
≈== Please stop pushing your own analysis. This is not a blog. ==

Please stop pushing your own POV analysis, without knowing anything at all. I am talking of the Guru Gobind Singh article.

Talk:List_of_most_populous_cities_in_India#Requested_move_16_August_2015
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Cities
Just to notify a small thing writing here. In the page List of cities and towns in India by population, some months ago, I have added those categorisation section and updated the lists upto A-Z leaving only P,R and S letters to be updated. So, now the page which we are discussing has all those entries which are Class - I (pop>100000), which are nothing but cities. So, nothing wrong in your proposal to name those pages.--Vin09 (talk) 12:48, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I think my current proposal is good one, we can save all three lists. We will also able to include all settlements at least in some list, those having population more than 100,000 in city list and less than 100,000 in town list. So we have to add around 500 cities in current list we are discussing. -- Human 3015   Send WikiLove   12:58, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Sure.--Vin09 (talk) 13:10, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Articles
Earlier I've created pages named List of cities in India by area and List of cities in Andhra Pradesh by area. I'm moving the content of AP cities areas by adding extra column on List of cities in Andhra Pradesh by population. So, what about List of cities in India by area? Your views. Asked an admin, while you were unavailable.--Vin09 (talk) 10:27, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Dear Human3015 My edit on the page Saffron Terror was driven by the fact that rss or alleged rss memebrs ave never been implicated. Only its "Branch out members have been implicated like Abhinav Bharat — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kachapah (talk • contribs) 14:49, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
 * We write according to sources. -- Human 3015   Send WikiLove   15:02, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Well there certain sources that are more comprehensive than op-eds(i.e. primary source documents). This goes for all wikipedia pages of this type. May I provide some sources? - Kachapah — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kachapah (talk • contribs) 01:27, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

How come history become Summary of the topic Regarding Telangana page ?
How history before the formation state becomes Lead ? if thats the Case ,India page should say that it was ruled by British for more than 200 yrs in Lead Section, Andhra pradesh State was part of Madras, should be in Lead also ? all the countries history becomes the Lead then. — Preceding unsigned comment added by K.n.narin (talk • contribs) 18:11, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Ok then. You read featured article India, article is not only talking about British but also about Indus Valley Civilization. -- Human 3015   Send WikiLove   18:22, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I read it, But that is not in 1st paragraph, right ?, 1st para introduces India , 2nd parah introduces history, thats well writtened. but here there is no introduction of telangana but directly introduced history of Telangana ? thats something to think about !. I am just trying make more sensible


 * Ok, lets make second para for summary of history on Telangana. -- Human 3015   Send WikiLove   18:49, 18 August 2015 (UTC)-- Human 3015   Send WikiLove    18:49, 18 August 2015 (UTC)


 * that makes more sense !

This discussion has been moved to talk page of the article, comment there for further discussion. Everyone should read it. Thank you. -- Human 3015   Send WikiLove   19:03, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Discussion
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Population
Was there any thing wrong in my edit here. You might have a good idea on city population.--Vin09 (talk) 07:13, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Can't say much about Mumbai article. That article is owned by some people. So I focus on small cities who doesn't have any owner. But why "Megacity" is not written in infobox of Mumbai? As we had discussion regarding this that population above 10 million is eligible to call as "Megacity". -- Human 3015   Send WikiLove   08:40, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I've asked the concerned editor, he said he will look after that edit. Thanks.--Vin09 (talk) 08:42, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

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Skirting the issue at Hafiz Saeed
You have not responded to my comment on the Hafiz Saeed TP, even though you took trouble to engage me in a meaningless editwar on the Pakistan article and then started a meaningless discussion on Pakistan TP. I have given four reasons why the content you added to the Hafiz Saeed article should be deleted. Instead of giving a general reply where you present My being a Pakistani as a reason for reverting me, use a list format to reply to my four arguments. You have engaged us in a long debate on this issue, so be kind enough to reply to it. FreeatlastChitchat (talk) 16:32, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't discuss with abusive users, you need to know basics of Wikipedia before doing any debate, my main debate was with, I support his version, dispute is over.-- Human 3015   Send WikiLove   17:25, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
 * So you refuse to discuss the changes? LOL?182.186.167.37 (talk) 17:31, 20 August 2015 (UTC) This me btw I was logged out for a secFreeatlastChitchat (talk) 17:32, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Indian_cities#Tourism.2Flandmarks.2Fplaces_of_interest
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How do I request Moderator/Admin intervention?
Hi, I noticed you have warned a user (FreeatlastChitchat) I'm having trouble with. He vandalized the Ghulam Ahmed Pervez page, which I reverted. If he does it again, is there a way to call moderators/administrators? Thanks Code16 (talk ) 11:49, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi, there are already 2 cases going on WP:ANI regarding in addition to one meat puppet case on Sockpuppet investigations/Faizan. If you want admin's intervention regarding anything then you can ask it at WP:ANI. Here "A" in ANI stands for "Administrator", but be sure that you have enough evidences for your any claim. If it is regarding content dispute then better you discuss it at talk page of related page. You also have to provide sources for your any claim related to content.-- Human 3015   Send WikiLove    13:14, 25 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks, appreciated Code16 (talk) 15:04, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

Islamic State
Thanks for catching that there was vandalism by more than one user since I only recognized the last one. Donner60 (talk) 23:04, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of File:Asrar.jpeg


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Regarding your User_talk:Snthakur
It is to mention here that Move review Rasgulla and the following edit attempts are different issues.

As per suggestions of Human3015 04:22, 18 August 2015 (UTC) and talk 12:52, 19 August 2015 (UTC) on my Talk page talk I have made following revision attempts with the 1st edit summary "Redefined - Rasgulla, Rosogolla, Indian diaspora Bangladesh" follows:

→ "Rasgulla" & "Mauritius" → Snthakur 1st revision → "Rasgulla(hi)[7] or, Rosogolla(bn)[8][9]" & "Bangladesh"

→ utcursch undid above, and edits Rasagola →  "Rasgulla, also known as Rosogolla (in Bengali) or Rasagola (in Odiya)" & "Bangladesh" (it was acceptable to me)

→ utcursch again undid above, and removes Bangladesh →  "Rasgulla in Hindi, known as Rosogolla in Bengali or Rasagola in Odiya" & "South Asian"

→ utcursch again removes Rosogolla, Rasagola including Bangladesh, creates a section "Name'→  The dessert is known as Rosogolla or Roshogolla in Bengali and Rasagola in Odiya .....

However, (utcursch's act of removing Rosogolla (in Bengali) or Rasagola (in Odiya)" & "Bangladesh" is an arbitrary act and not with consensus either with talk and Human3015 and talk

Therefore there was an obvious concern with disruptive editor utcursch for the above content issue.

Please suggest so as to what shall I do now?

Snthakur ( সৌমেন্দ্র নাথ ঠাকুর ) (talk) 10:32, 28 August 2015 (UTC)


 * This editor has posted several copies of this message to several talk pages. I have replied on his/her own talk page. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 11:12, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

2015–16 UEFA Champions League
You think the Importance of the article needs changing? It's up to you to show why it's worth changing. The article is definitely not of Top or High importance by any means, it's barely even Mid importance. Individual seasons of club competitions are never more than Mid importance unless something extremely noteworthy happens. Please see WikiProject Football/Assessment for an explanation of WP:FOOTY's assessment scales. – PeeJay 20:03, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
 * So why you are not writing it as "mid"? How it is of "low" importance by any means? -- Human 3015   Send WikiLove   20:07, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Because I still don't believe it is Mid. As I said, the WP:FOOTY assessment department's importance scale states that all season articles should be considered Low importance unless something particularly noteworthy happens. I understand your point about the Champions League being a more important competition, but the Importance scale isn't about the number of page views, it's about the relative importance of the article to the football WikiProject. What happens when the season is over and nothing particularly eventful happens? Do we drop the season's importance down to Low then? It doesn't work that way; importance levels don't go up simply because the event is happening right now. – PeeJay 21:14, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Champions league is not only one of most prestigious Football tournament but also a one of most prestigious sport tournament in the world, also one of most watched sport event. In world of Football it is obviously top level competition. If we are tagging it as "low importance" which is lowest importance level we can have then what is difference between such prestigious tournament and hundreds of other seasonal tournaments happening in world in every nation??. Do you know there are how many Football clubs or Football players in the World? Its in millions!!. Regarding competitions you can see List of association football competitions which lists some major competitions. We can take one example of 2015 Cambodian League. 2015 season of Cambodian League is obviously "low" importance, if we are tagging 2015–16 UEFA Champions League with "low" importance then what is difference between importance of 2015–16 UEFA Champions League and 2015 Cambodian League?? Season of Champions league should have some higher importance level than others. -- Human 3015   Send WikiLove    21:52, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
 * That is not for us to decide. If you think that Champions League seasons should have a higher Importance level than WP:FOOTY recommends, you should start a discussion at WT:FOOTY to gauge the community's opinion. Right now, it should really stay at Low importance due to the fact that there is nothing notable about that season other than the fact that it is happening. – PeeJay 22:38, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
 * You should read what is written in "High" level assessment scale, Top-level leagues, awards and competitions. "Top level competitions" can have "High" importance level according to WikiProject Football/Assessment. -- Human 3015   Send WikiLove   22:45, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
 * No, you should read more carefully. That refers to the main article of each competition, i.e. UEFA Champions League, not the individual seasons. As you can see under the description of "Low" importance articles, that includes all season articles. – PeeJay 22:54, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

I will reply you, but I'm moving this discussion to Talk:2015–16 UEFA Champions League, I think others should have say on it. -- Human 3015   Send WikiLove   23:00, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

Help
How to place a notability tag and deletion tag on a biography article? This is regarding this article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suraj_Pancholi Thanks Rajkancherla (talk) 14:01, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
 * You can find suitable cleanup templates here: Template messages/Cleanup. A suitable one for notability is  .  You paste that at the top of the article.


 * If you think an article should be deleted, you can find the procedure at Articles for deletion. The instructions are at WP:AFDHOWTO.  You need to follow these instructions carefully.  This is the best way to do it, because it allows you to explain why the article should be deleted, and allows other people to explain why it should not be deleted.--  Toddy1 (talk) 16:50, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Desi daru
Hello! Your submission of Desi daru at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! APerson (talk!) 03:44, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

ONUS
WP:ONUS lies on you. "The onus to achieve consensus for inclusion is on those seeking to include disputed content." §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 07:11, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

August 2015
You have been blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours for edit warring. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by first reading the guide to appealing blocks, then adding the following text below this notice:. During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 08:10, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I welcome this block. Maybe this is much needed Wikibreak for both parties. I specially want to thank you for being a strong admin and for not hesitating to block both users despite whatever their experience or contribution. Because many times some admins hesitate in such situations, many times they do have some soft corner for experienced editors, even I felt that soft corner for myself too in past. Frankly speaking I respect not just because he is very senior editor and his contribution but also because as per my observation we belongs to same region, his user page says that his mothertongue is Marathi language and my mothertoungue is also Marathi language. But this is not issue here, sometimes rifts do happens, but it should not be 24 hour business. I have just one request to you, if you have time in future then please kindly interfere in future probable major rifts if any happens with anyone. If you find me guilty in it then you can again block me for longer period or maybe Topic ban. Most of topics of India-Pakistan are under discretionary sanctions and we really need fearless admins to moderate these issues. As you did it today same way you can overlook these issues whenever you get time. Thank you. -- Human 3015   Send WikiLove    10:02, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. For the most part I don't really see these things. It was just the post at WP:RFPP as I work on that page often. Sometimes I might see them at the edit warring notice board. For now though the best thing would be to leave the page alone. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 10:41, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Right after the block expired, he has done it again. Seems like he is not bothered by entries in the block log. Faizan (talk) 08:43, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

September 2015
You have been blocked from editing for a period of 48 hours for edit warring. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by first reading the guide to appealing blocks, then adding the following text below this notice:. During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 08:49, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Advice. You have just fallen into the most basic of edit-warring traps. After a block for edit-warring expires, you should never resume edit-warring. (If the people you were edit-warring against are cunning, they may actually try to provoke you into doing just this.) In the situation you were in with respect of the article on Afghan Jalebi (Ya Baba), there were several good things you could have done. -- Toddy1 (talk) 09:20, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
 * You could have posted a message on the article talk page, proposing that Dharmadhyaksha and Faizan's preferred version should be reverted. You could have given reasons for this.  This might well have resulted in other editors performing the revert you desired.
 * You could asked uninvolved editors to have a look at the dispute (by posting a message on their talk page). The request must be worded neutrally.  For example:  "Please could you have a look at the recent editing history of the article on Afghan Jalebi (Ya Baba)."  This approach will work best if you have already explained your point of view on the article talk page.  The uninvolved editors should be people who you have had dealing with in the past; make sure you pick at least one who you have disagreed with on some issue.
 * I disagree with you as that would have been canvassing. Don't ask on Specific User talk page. Better place would be Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Songs. Aero   Slicer  09:33, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I wanted to say the same thing. Your opponents have understood that you are adamant to save the page and they laid a trap. Don't make the same edit revert again and again for which you were blocked. Better focus on other areas related to tourism. And after 48 hours, if someone reverts your edit on Afghan jalebi, still don't revert him back. Aero   Slicer  09:29, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

A story
Once there were two brothers. One of them was very successful, good at everything he did, and won a lot of fame and wealth. The other one wasn't successful and increasingly grew jealous of his brother. Finally, one day he decided to do tapasya to Shiva to solve his problem. After many years of tapasya, Shiva appeared to him and told him he was pleased with his devotion and he would give him two boons. So, the guy first asks for the first obvious thing: whatever my brother gets, I should get twice as much. Shiva says "granted." What is your second wish? "My brother should lose one eye." Shiva says, "you realize of course that I have always granted your first wish. So, if your brother loses one eye, you would lose two eyes." The guy says, "it doesn't matter. I still want him to lose one eye." The wish was granted.

This story was narrated to me by my father several times during my childhood. I never ran into it anywhere else. It was probably passed down through generations. Have a good holiday! Cheers, Kautilya3 (talk) 09:06, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

 Aero  Slicer  has given you a dove! Doves promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day happier. Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a dove, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past (this fits perfectly) or a good friend. Cheers!

Spread the peace of doves by adding {{subst:Peace dove}} to someone's talk page with a friendly message!


 * Hi, belated thanks to all of you for commenting here and supporting & giving suggestions to me, also belated thanks to admin CBW for unblocking me. -- Human 3015   Send WikiLove   18:34, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

What should I say??
I'm completely shocked over what is happening here. People are getting blocked for edit warring on completely non-important article like Afghan Jalebi in which no one has any stakes including me. I know it was just to harass me otherwise no one is interested in article like Afghan Jalebi. Actually I laughed very much, but also this is time to think over it. I would like to appeal to my "opponents" to not "hound" me, please stop. Other people who got blocked over this issue were having clear block log but now they have a "worthless block" in their record. If you people want that I should get "hurt" or I should "cry" then I accept that "yes I got hurt", "I got harrassed", "Yes I cried", Are you happy now? will you stop now?. Now I don't care if article Afghan Jalebi stays or get deleted, but it will be awkward moment for me and for others that they got blocked for edit warring on article that even don't exists. I really came here to contribute to Wikipedia and my "opponents" also are great contributor to Wikipedia, so it will be better if we focus on our contributions, and we can have good debate over any genuine dispute over any serious issue. I have only one request to hounders, please, stay away from this practice, it will only harm me and you too. We both will get blocked. We are here on Wikipedia to expand coverage of Wikipedia to articles related to our nation, village, cities, faith, hobbies, profession etc, we can focus on that without getting in trouble. Do remember one thing Wikipedia does not need anyone. Thank you. -- Human 3015   Send WikiLove   10:01, 1 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Article in question Afghan Jalebi has been full-protected, so there is no question of edit warring further, I'm the main defender of that article at Afd as it is created by me recently so thats why I was just restoring some sourced content deleted by editors who commented "delete" in Afd. That article is just 7 days old and just to defend the survival of the article I done that edit war to restore some sourced content which could have saved the article, otherwise I would have not done it, I do have history of edit war but it was when I was very new, actually I'm still relatively new, I have experience of 5 months as active Wikipedian and 7 months since registered. I think I got my punishment, can you unblock me? It is really boring without Wikipedia, there is also one WP:DRN case pending on which I have to comment otherwise it will be closed, it is very long pending issue. These days I seek for WP:DRN not edit war. I will tell you again, article in question is protected so no issue of editing that article, I accepted that it will get deleted, and you can see my edit history, there is no other pending dispute on which I will edit war once you unblock me. 2 days are too long, I usually do 200-300 edits in 2 days, 12 hours are ended now, so total block is 36 hours (including earlier 24), I think this much is enough. I understood.-- Human 3015   Send WikiLove   21:11, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:United States
The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:United States. Legobot (talk) 00:01, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks, it was your first case as DRN Volunteer and you successfully resolved it. Thanks for your cooperation. -- Human 3015   Send WikiLove   11:55, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Talkback message from Tito Dutta
Tito Dutta (talk) 15:12, 3 September 2015 (UTC)