User talk:Humblebear1/Mimic poison frog

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Nice! I think there are some major structural changes you could make that would improve the flow of information in the article. Assortative mating is not necessarily an indicator of sexual selection even if it is an outcome of mate choice. For instance, assortative mating often occurs as an outcome of mate choice in monogamous species that experience low opportunity for sexual selection, and it can also occur without mate choice if males and females of a certain phenotype are more likely to interact and mate due to shared ecology (happy to send you some articles if you're interested in reading further on this). So, I would rename the sexual selection section as something like "Mate competition and Mate Choice". I would first talk about male-male interactions, then talk about mate attraction, and then talk about mate choice decisions. One way to incorporate assortative mating would be to then mention the costs and benefits of mate choice for parental care, and mention assortative mating as another outcome of mate choice.

Your plans for the parental care section look great!

I would remove the Evolution section and instead incorporate this information into the other sections where appropriate. For instance, color polymorphisms may fit better in the Morphology section and the evolutionary drivers of parental care in the parental care section. If you can find more information on reproductive isolation and site-specific dominance of color morphs, I think you could take some information from the Morphology section and make a new section/subsection about color polymorphisms.

The outline is a great start, but would be improved by indicating which references you would cite for each bit of information or at least in each subsection (-1). Nice job overall though! Elioeilish (talk) 19:24, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

I really liked reading your draft. It was very informative, intriguing, and user friendly. Some global critiques: ·I would break the reproduction and parental care section up into subsections. I would recommend a subsection for parental care, and possibly a separate section for coloration.

·I would also introduce the color morphs in a separate section, possibly labeled morphology. It doesn't fit very well in a reproduction header. Possibly the portion on assortative mating can remain in this section and correspond with a subheader.

·I would potentially look at adding more information on the evidence of assortative mating and put this before the section on parental care.

· Before the discussion of their parenting behaviors, i would include a subsection on pre-copulatory/ copulatory behaviors and mechanisms. You mention the presence of mate choice and alternative male mating strategies in your outline, and i think that there is a lot of concepts in class that could be covered with such a section. Additionally,these behaviors seem critical to understanding the what precedes the parental dynamics.

Your information on the parental behaviors of the species is very thorough and informative. I like how you differentiated between male and female parenting behaviors and acknowledged how the presence of predators can impact such behaviors (since behaviors are often observed and written about under conditions that dont equate to the natural environment).

Some local critiques: ·Not sure you need this sentence "One study investigated the effects of arginine-vasotocin (AVT) and mesotocin (MT), the analogs of arginine-vasopressin (AVP) and oxytocin (OT) in mammals, that found that AVT and MT had little effect on positive influence on parental care, concluding that other hormones likely induce parental care behaviors in this species[6]" since it only provides evidence against a hypothesis and doesnt add much information to the concept.

· In the second paragraph, i would break up the sentences with semicolons into two sentences.

· in the, in a 2010 paper sentence, i would just write researchers observed that frogs use phytotelma instead of citing the specific researcher.

·I think you can condense this: ″''These transition zones have been particular areas of interest to study reproductive isolation and speciation in this species. Research on this phenomena suggest that color pattern is likely a driving factor in reproductive isolation, as some transition zones show evidence of assortative mating''" into one sentence. You can start the second sentence with research on transition zones suggest that...

Your sentences connect really well and the contribute to a common topic for each paragraph. Additionally, you cited your work thoroughly which important for establishing the credibility of your information. Your links to the wikipedia pages of certain terms was also very helpful in comprehending your information. The hyperlinks and the citations made your page clear and informative, while also allowing for a reader to learn more about the subject if they so choose. Scoobydoo567 (talk) 16:01, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

Overall very informative so far. For global comments: You did a great job providing plenty of details and sources were used evenly throughout. However I would say it would be helpful to break up the paragraphs more as it seems pretty condensed. It might be helpful to have some subheadings like "Male versus Female Care" and "Hormonal Regulation" or whatever would make sense to divide the information up that way. Another thing that might be useful to add it to talk about reproduction and mating before the parental care in the section as that would make more sense chronologically. For local comments: The article has overall good flow and structure. I would reword this sentence, "After tadpoles are in their rearing sites, the male will call while next to tadpoles, signaling to the mother to feed an individual [1]; in addition to male calling, tadpole begging, a behavior in which tadpoles vibrate their body, also encourages the mother to provide trophic eggs" as it's a little long and the semicolons and commas can make it a little confusing. I would also suggest rewording the intro under reproduction and parental care as it seems more like a thesis rather than just informative, but otherwise this seems like a really solid addition to the wiki page. Layana234 (talk) 00:20, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

Peer Review 3
I think that overall, this is a well written second draft of your article. In terms of global features of your article, I think that you did a good job organizing the content of your paragraphs. More specifically, I think that the introductory section of the reproduction section provides a nice framework for the information that follows in the next three sections. I also think that placing the section on color morphology before the section on reproduction provides essential information for understanding the complexity of the species’ mating behavior. In terms of global improvements, I think that a definition of a “trophic egg” should be provided in either the male parental care or female parental care section, as not all readers will know what this is. Another global improvement could be the addition of whether these mating pair relationships are monogamous for one season, or for the duration of an organism’s life. However, I should note that I understand that your sources might not contain this information making this second global improvement not possible. If present, this would be an interesting addition, specifically because it was noted that this is the first amphibian to show evidence of genetic monogamy.

In terms of local aspects, I did not notice any spelling or grammatical mistakes. In addition to this, your article is easy to read and comprehend. Regarding local improvements, I think that in the first sentence of the “Male Parental Care” section it should say “fertilized eggs” instead of “fertilizing eggs”. The reason that I think this is because in the previous section it states that females deposit fertilized eggs on a plant to develop, which the male would then guard over. Another local improvement I noticed is that the formatting for some of the citations at the end of a sentence differ. For example, some citations are placed before the period, while others are placed after the period. Before publishing the article to Wikipedia, I would format these citations, so that all of them are placed after the period. Lastly, for each of the headers I would capitalize the first letter of any of the main words. Again, I think this is a well written second draft of your article. Well done!

--SEBsmile8 (talk) 00:51, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

Peer Review 4
Global Comments: You did an excellent job with both the content and organization of your article! The sections were clear, and I am very impressed with how you were able to straightforwardly explain complex reproductive habits. As for improvements, maybe add more information about male calls in the courtship and oviposition section, and add some information about female fecundity if possible.

Local Comments: Again, fantastic job at clearly conveying the information about R. imitator! The article was both readable and informative. For improvements, I would recommend moving all of the citations to after the punctuation at the end of the sentence, and adding a period at the end of the last sentence of the “Interactions between different morphs” section. --GreenTea283 (talk) 01:41, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Feedback response
I really liked reading your draft. It was very informative, intriguing, and user friendly. Some global critiques: ·I would break the reproduction and parental care section up into subsections. I would recommend a subsection for parental care, and possibly a separate section for coloration.

'''- I understand why it might be a bit more intuitive to break up "Reproduction and parental care" into each of their own subsections. However, research in this species that look at these aspects frequently clump them together because they are highly related to each other. For instance, the monogamous mating system in this species is likely due to the fact that they provide biparental care, and therefore these two aspects of this species' ecology are reliant on each other so I explained them as such.'''

·I would also introduce the color morphs in a separate section, possibly labeled morphology. It doesn't fit very well in a reproduction header. Possibly the portion on assortative mating can remain in this section and correspond with a subheader.

'''- Added a new section preceding Reproduction and parental care labeled Color morphology. I agree that it makes sense to provide this information independent from the other information presented.'''

·I would potentially look at adding more information on the evidence of assortative mating and put this before the section on parental care.

'''- I agree, however there isn't much research on specific mating behaviors and mate choice in this species. The only paper that does anything with mate choice measured male choice when given an option between females of different color morphs, and only found one male morph that exhibited evidence of assortative mating. I mainly added that tidbit on assortative mating just to show some of the behaviors that have been observed and how it may be contributing to ongoing reproductive isolation.'''

· Before the discussion of their parenting behaviors, i would include a subsection on pre-copulatory/ copulatory behaviors and mechanisms. You mention the presence of mate choice and alternative male mating strategies in your outline, and i think that there is a lot of concepts in class that could be covered with such a section. Additionally,these behaviors seem critical to understanding the what precedes the parental dynamics.

'''- From my previous comment, I couldn't really find much on mate choice and what specific factors influence mate choice, so I unfortunately can't add much information on precopulatory behavior that is specific to this species. However, I did add a bit about courtship in this species.'''

Your information on the parental behaviors of the species is very thorough and informative. I like how you differentiated between male and female parenting behaviors and acknowledged how the presence of predators can impact such behaviors (since behaviors are often observed and written about under conditions that dont equate to the natural environment).

Some local critiques: ·Not sure you need this sentence "One study investigated the effects of arginine-vasotocin (AVT) and mesotocin (MT), the analogs of arginine-vasopressin (AVP) and oxytocin (OT) in mammals, that found that AVT and MT had little effect on positive influence on parental care, concluding that other hormones likely induce parental care behaviors in this species[6]" since it only provides evidence against a hypothesis and doesnt add much information to the concept.

- Removed this sentence

· In the second paragraph, i would break up the sentences with semicolons into two sentences.

- Followed this advice

· in the, in a 2010 paper sentence, i would just write researchers observed that frogs use phytotelma instead of citing the specific researcher.

- Followed this advice

·I think you can condense this: ″''These transition zones have been particular areas of interest to study reproductive isolation and speciation in this species. Research on this phenomena suggest that color pattern is likely a driving factor in reproductive isolation, as some transition zones show evidence of assortative mating''" into one sentence. You can start the second sentence with research on transition zones suggest that...

- Condensed into one sentence

Your sentences connect really well and the contribute to a common topic for each paragraph. Additionally, you cited your work thoroughly which important for establishing the credibility of your information. Your links to the wikipedia pages of certain terms was also very helpful in comprehending your information. The hyperlinks and the citations made your page clear and informative, while also allowing for a reader to learn more about the subject if they so choose.

Overall very informative so far. For global comments: You did a great job providing plenty of details and sources were used evenly throughout. However I would say it would be helpful to break up the paragraphs more as it seems pretty condensed. It might be helpful to have some subheadings like "Male versus Female Care" and "Hormonal Regulation" or whatever would make sense to divide the information up that way.

- Followed this advice by adding subheadings for specific subsections

Another thing that might be useful to add it to talk about reproduction and mating before the parental care in the section as that would make more sense chronologically.

- Added a bit about courtship before going into parental care, but as previously stated it is necessary to introduce reproduction and parental care as closely related aspects in this species

For local comments: The article has overall good flow and structure. I would reword this sentence, "After tadpoles are in their rearing sites, the male will call while next to tadpoles, signaling to the mother to feed an individual [1]; in addition to male calling, tadpole begging, a behavior in which tadpoles vibrate their body, also encourages the mother to provide trophic eggs" as it's a little long and the semicolons and commas can make it a little confusing.

- Separated into separate sentences and reworded it a bit

I would also suggest rewording the intro under reproduction and parental care as it seems more like a thesis rather than just informative, but otherwise this seems like a really solid addition to the wiki page.

Humblebear1 (talk) 20:35, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

Peer Review 5
Global Comment: Overall, I think that this draft is very informative and well-written. I liked how you organized all the sections and subsections in your article. For improvements, if possible, I think it might be helpful to add a little bit more information about general reproduction like the average range of the number of offspring produced. Secondly, in the male parental section, adding a definition for tropical eggs might make it easily understandable for the readers.

Local Comment: Your article is organized properly and is easily readable. I think the sentence structure is good, and I don’t see any grammatical mistakes. I also liked how you used multiple citations in each section from all the sources you listed. As for improvements, I feel that you should move the citations after the period at the end of the sentence. I also think that maybe you should reword terms like the allopatric population in simpler words or add hyperlinks so that it is easily understandable for the readers.

Overall, I think your draft is great! Jmt39 (talk) 01:38, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

Feedback response 2
In terms of global improvements, I think that a definition of a “trophic egg” should be provided in either the male parental care or female parental care section, as not all readers will know what this is.

Added explanation

Another global improvement could be the addition of whether these mating pair relationships are monogamous for one season, or for the duration of an organism’s life. However, I should note that I understand that your sources might not contain this information making this second global improvement not possible. If present, this would be an interesting addition, specifically because it was noted that this is the first amphibian to show evidence of genetic monogamy.

Not present in sources

In terms of local aspects, I did not notice any spelling or grammatical mistakes. In addition to this, your article is easy to read and comprehend. Regarding local improvements, I think that in the first sentence of the “Male Parental Care” section it should say “fertilized eggs” instead of “fertilizing eggs”.

Fixed this

Another local improvement I noticed is that the formatting for some of the citations at the end of a sentence differ.

Fixed

For improvements, if possible, I think it might be helpful to add a little bit more information about general reproduction like the average range of the number of offspring produced.

Added a bit more info on general clutch size

Secondly, in the male parental section, adding a definition for tropical eggs might make it easily understandable for the readers.

Already added

As for improvements, I feel that you should move the citations after the period at the end of the sentence.

Already fixed

I also think that maybe you should reword terms like the allopatric population in simpler words or add hyperlinks so that it is easily understandable for the readers.

Fixed this

Also fixed other aspects like further explaining linked terms and grammar. Humblebear1 (talk) 19:41, 3 May 2023 (UTC)