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SatuSuro 03:09, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Srivijaya
Please don't move an article as important as Srivijaya without discussing it at its talk page. __earth (Talk) 15:05, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Salamat, Thanks
thanks for the comment back... Australian Jezza 10:45, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

In France?
Hello Anda, Are you living in France? Do you visit Java from time to time? I'm staying here, and would like to meet if you happen through. Smilo Don (talk) 03:07, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

WP IN
I notice your edits regularly at Indonesian articles - I was wondering if I could ask for some help please? SatuSuro 06:35, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

I see you here a lot - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:RecentChangesLinked/List_of_Indonesia-related_topics - and what I would like to ask (its up to you though, And I would not be bothered if you were not able to do so) whether it would be possible to check the Indonesian articles that they have on their discussion/talk page the minumum of WP Indonesia - at least - and where possible if they are obvious stubs whether you could put class=stub and importance=low - why? the Indonesian project is very low on maintenance help at the moment - and any small help can always work marvels! - but very important - only as long as it didnt affect your own editing and checking SatuSuro 06:54, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

lucu sekali! poor in content? heheh most of wp english indonesia has no content - lists and ((onesource)) disasters - but hey - please only if there is some glaring omission or obvious help needed - it would be appreciated - my commiserations - most WP IN eds do not seem to know what WP:RS is - but I am too harsh - thanks for any help at all - SatuSuro 07:39, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

It is everywhere - indian. malaysian. javanese, sundanese, mongolian (!), - all a bunch of xxxxx xenophobes - which is why every now and then that i despair and alledge that I am surrounded by cretins - try putting spratley islands on watch and youll see what i mean. Thanks for your help - some of it is more subtle and harder to discern and get cleaned up - so please feel free to allert me of any items that might see somewhat untouched POV - it would be appreciated - thanks again SatuSuro 04:33, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

When I have had to deal with some of the non english material that creeps into WP EN Indonesia project with literally no back up or support - you might realise that my language is indeed guarded and considered when I use that term - most of what I actually feel about the constant barrage of POV and POINT material into the project I actually reserve for off-wiki discussions :) - the actual indoctrinations of the New Order era education system are worthy of a good PhD if it hasnt been done yet as to what constituted what in the over all history of the archipelago SatuSuro 04:45, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Your fixing the link reminds me my wifes phd fieldwork was conducted on a slope of a volcano in java where iodine deficiency was directly linked to the term/condition SatuSuro 04:48, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Sorry that is as far as i go on wiki talk - And I am just reverting someone who challenged SBY's and Kalla's religious affiliations - the irory :( SatuSuro 06:55, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

The issue is complicated - public figures wear their religious identity openly in Indonesia - and I have my limits on wiki talk - its all very googleable and as open as merdeka sqauare - SatuSuro 06:59, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

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Please dont forget to sign on your very well made points at article talk pages - it is important! SatuSuro 09:25, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Response to "His story"
Hi,

A response has been posted on the Vatteluttu talk page here. Regards. Wiki Raja (talk) 08:08, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Removed scripts chart
Hello again,

A discussion is posted as to why the script chart you posted has been removed here. Thanks. Wiki Raja (talk) 08:36, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Response to your response to my response
Hi,

You can read my responses to your responses here. Wiki Raja (talk) 00:04, 31 August 2008 (UTC)


 * More responses here. Wiki Raja (talk) 06:31, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

On Sri Vijaya
Please read the response here. Wiki Raja (talk) 06:41, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Another response here. Wiki Raja (talk) 11:46, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Your recent edits
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Reply to Malay and the Polynesian languages
My comment on Malay and Polynesian languages is here. Wiki Raja (talk) 11:50, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Response to Melanesia and Micronesia
Response is here. Wiki Raja (talk) 21:14, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Response to indigenous Australians and Melanesians
Responses here. Wiki Raja (talk) 10:47, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Reply to Early human migrations
Interesting reply here. Wiki Raja (talk) 22:38, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

So
All the material you removed from Malay World that seemed to be an argument regarding Nusantara - do you think any of that material might be more relevant there? SatuSuro 08:39, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Malay world
I respectfully completely disagree. The term "nusa antara" existed long before the Pararaton- it is merely that the West bases its' scant knowledge of Indonesia on the few documents it claims to have discovered- yet there are many thousands more manuscripts in the Pustakaan Kerataon, many of which predate this and Empu Tantular.

I quote from Kamus Pepak Basa Kawa (2008 Mulyono: Pustaka Widyatama): nusa: pulau= island. antara- outside. There is also nusa Jawa (islands external to Java). Nusa Madura (outside of Madura). Nusa hutan (beyond the forest). Nusa and Antara are derived directly from Dewanegari and Sanskrit- which of course predates the 13th C Pararaton. The concept of islands outside Java and external territories obviously a concept well known prior to the 14th C from the existent of trans national Majapahit, Singasari and Sriwijaya. I also completely disagree with you re Islam as a determinant of Malay or Malayness. The Malay world is a racial world. Due to unfortunate Western emotional over sensitivities about unfortunate racial realities, I understand this is almost a total taboo (read Orwellian thoughtcrime) to use race as a characterizing feature. But in context- in the Malay world as it were- it is not. We are emotionally mature enough to comfortable state the obvious that Austronesian= Malay.

It was the ignorant English colonials who supposed we were "Malayalam Indians" and due to genetic British refusal to admit error- the erroneous term stayed. AS you well know the Austronesian race has not changed despite the altering religions of Animism, Buddhism, Hinduism- yet the race was the same- the Malayness remained. What of the many Catholic and Protestant indigenous Indonesians: they are not 'Malay'?

I quote: "Malay’ was often used to refer to the people of Riau, where the Malay language is believed to have originated. Yet ‘Malayness’ is a broad and inclusive ethnic category shared by numerous groups across Malaysia, Singapore, Borneo and Sumatra as well as Eastern Indonesia. For the New Order’s museum curators, the problem was that Malays could not be identified with one particular place in the archipelago." Where are her sources? Taman Mini is not even a museum- merely a theme park to attempt to make learning fun. Rather poor even for an Australian academic- would you not agree?- Sorry I somehow was logged out. À la prochaine mon amiStarstylers (talk) 17:15, 8 April 2009 (UTC)==Malay world==

Malay world again!
C'est va? I disagree (respectfully as always) with you on a number of points. There seems to be an issue too of colloquial or even archaic English versus correct geo-political or other such academic terminology. I will get back to you- but its a rather interesting discussion, a non mon ami? AdieuStarstylers (talk) 17:54, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

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Well, hello there...
Welcome back - even if it was only to update coordinates. :-)   13:12, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Changing username
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Hi there. I have commented further on your request. While it may be allowed on this project (I cannot predict the crats' decision), the username you requested exists on several projects and you will not be able to create a complete unified account if you are renamed to this name here. You might want to consider a different name that allows you to create such an account. Regards  So Why  07:58, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Hello SoWhy, thanks for the information. As a matter of fact I am already using "Humboldt" as a user name in the French and Indonesian WP's. So I suppose this can support my case for using it in the English WP... Best regards, Humboldt 17:35, 25 November 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Djoehana (talk • contribs)
 * If you already do so, I would suggest you use fr:Spécial:Fusionner le compte on fr-wiki with your "Humboldt" account and create an unified login from there. That way it can be handled as a request for completing said unified login instead of a normal request and it would be a good way to show that you have strong claims to the account name (you will need to provide a diff on fr-wiki then in which you confirm that you made the request). Regards  So Why  18:24, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
 * As for the confirmation edit, please make it as "Humboldt" on the French Wikipedia (for example edit fr:Wikipédia:Bac à sable and use an edit summary like "I confirm that I am Djoehana on the English Wikipedia", then add the difflink of that edit to the rename request. Regards  So Why  07:53, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

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Please when creating new articles about Indonesian people - could you help the Indonesian project by adding project tags on the talk page and making sure there are enough WP:RS cited - so that we do not have to endure the AFd process - thanks SatuSuro 01:58, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Adequate sourcing for WP BLP is a real issue - please note what I did at Murchasin stub SatuSuro 02:22, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

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Huh?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahal,_Indonesia - no refs and no categories correct? what is going on? SatuSuro 07:00, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Minto Stone
Please note that stub goes at the end of the article, after everything except interwiki links, per WP:LAYOUT, not at the top. And it doesn't take parameters.

Also, I imagine you found the newspaper references online (unless it's your personal press cuttings file) - so why not make them into links to the online sources? Only very few readers will be able to follow up the information in The Southern Reporter in hard copy, but they can all (now) click a link and read the detail there. Please link to online sources when they are available. Thanks.

But, more interestingly - what happened next? Googling finds me no mention of the stone after 2008. Do you know anything more? PamD (talk) 09:29, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

A small countesy
If you are going to change all those article names in such a number - a small courtesy to explain at Indonesian project noticeboard might help = there is nothing obvious in your edit summaries to show why sub districts are districts - thanks SatuSuro 12:44, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

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